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mmmkay
post Feb 21 2012, 08:07 AM
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Both of these skills do as advertised for SMGs, swords, arrows, etc. To my disappointment after carefully reading both the power and the maneuver do not grant ready weapon and throw weapon in a single simple action. You literally can only pick up only one throwing weapon and throw it in a simple action. In my mind, I thought you could ready a few throwing knives and then toss one in a simple action. You'd have to have a pretty high reaction + weapons skill to never fail the quick draw test, I was working out some numbers for it and especially iaijutsu makes the error rate pretty high. My original thoughts on quick drawing was that it'd be good because you could basically do it on the first IP of combat and repeat it every 3 IPs or so, but having to do it every simple action is asking for failure.

Random Aside: Does a specialization factor into weapon skill? For the example specializations I'd imagine shuriken when you're quick drawing shurikens and throwing knife when you're quick drawing throwing knives would be the only specializations that factor in, if they did. The other specializations under handed and over handed don't have anything to do with quick drawing, so they wouldn't apply, but it's never been crystal clear to me if you couldn't make up your own specializations. I suppose in Missions they don't allow creating your own and at other games the default answer is ask your GM...

So basically after realizing this, the krav maga specialty where you can ready weapons as a free action seems ideal, because you can arm yourself with agi/2 weapons and then each simple action until you run out of goodies you just throw. This does have a downside of not being able to use some of the more unique thrown weapons twice a turn, but it is reliable. I suppose if your reaction + weapon skill is high enough, then you can reliably attempt to quick-draw your way to victory and it does save you a free action every pass. On the other hand if you are an adept that is a specialist in thrown weapons then presumably you are counted on to to be a reliable source of damage and maybe I'm risk averse, but I can imagine choking too easily on a quick draw attempt.

Forgive me if this out of place, but I kind of wanted to rant on this because one of my pet projects was working on different forms of a throwing adept and massaging the build until it wasn't just junk at everything but throwing stuff and then I run into this mess. A discussion or new thoughts on throwing adepts would be appreciated. Also note that my realization applies to bow adepts, but those have fallen out of style.
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- mmmkay   Quick Draw and Iaijutsu   Feb 21 2012, 08:07 AM
- - Medicineman   QUOTE Does a specialization factor into weapon ski...   Feb 21 2012, 08:25 AM
|- - mmmkay   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Feb 21 2012, 01:25 A...   Feb 21 2012, 08:54 AM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Feb 21 2012, 09:25 A...   Feb 21 2012, 01:24 PM
- - Medicineman   Well, the point is that there is no Regiment of Lo...   Feb 21 2012, 09:23 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Feb 21 2012, 03:23 A...   Feb 21 2012, 05:37 PM
- - The Jake   You know, after playing this game for over 20 year...   Feb 21 2012, 09:46 AM
- - mmmkay   I don't disagree. It is also like using the fu...   Feb 21 2012, 09:47 AM
- - Medicineman   Or Focus Will to summon spirits. Wait a Sec ! ...   Feb 21 2012, 10:03 AM
- - Grinder   Ok, you using it at your table totally justifies i...   Feb 21 2012, 10:14 AM
- - mmmkay   Focus Will to improve drain resistance is about as...   Feb 21 2012, 10:22 AM
- - UmaroVI   Uh, that's pretty much what focus will is for....   Feb 21 2012, 12:13 PM
- - UmaroVI   I just ran the numbers, and actually, I think Quic...   Feb 21 2012, 01:53 PM
|- - mmmkay   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Feb 21 2012, 06:53 AM) I...   Feb 22 2012, 11:55 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Spec should not count. Or, rather, it *should*, be...   Feb 21 2012, 02:12 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 21 2012, 03:12 PM...   Feb 21 2012, 02:36 PM
- - Paul   Maybe I'm just being too reasonable but in rea...   Feb 21 2012, 02:57 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Dakka Dakka, I was talking about abusing DP-mods f...   Feb 21 2012, 05:46 PM
- - UmaroVI   Yerameyahu, I'm not following why you think Sp...   Feb 21 2012, 06:06 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I'm not talking about that. Someone said that ...   Feb 21 2012, 06:29 PM
- - Mäx   QUOTE (mmmkay @ Feb 21 2012, 10:07 AM) On...   Feb 21 2012, 06:40 PM
- - Medicineman   and someone (me) said/wrote that a Spec is not a s...   Feb 21 2012, 06:51 PM
|- - Trigger   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Feb 21 2012, 02:51 P...   Feb 21 2012, 08:54 PM
- - Medicineman   sometimes I'm talking about 2 or 3 Things/Item...   Feb 22 2012, 07:44 AM
- - UmaroVI   So how 'bout them Barghests?   Feb 22 2012, 11:43 AM
- - UmaroVI   Yeah, it's a lot harder with Iaijutsu. If you...   Feb 22 2012, 03:18 PM
|- - mmmkay   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Feb 22 2012, 08:18 AM) Y...   Feb 22 2012, 04:24 PM
- - UmaroVI   It's definitely true that the cyberarm would (...   Feb 22 2012, 09:02 PM
|- - mmmkay   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Feb 22 2012, 02:02 PM) I...   Feb 23 2012, 03:35 AM
- - UmaroVI   I'm assuming you would have Strength/Agility e...   Feb 23 2012, 01:09 PM
- - Yerameyahu   QUOTE I'm not sure your average person would b...   Feb 23 2012, 02:03 PM
|- - mmmkay   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 23 2012, 06:03 AM...   Feb 23 2012, 03:35 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I think it's assumed you're walking throug...   Feb 23 2012, 03:37 PM
- - UmaroVI   Right. If you're not walking through a scanner...   Feb 23 2012, 03:52 PM
- - mmmkay   Ah I suppose I didn't get the argument. Cool c...   Feb 23 2012, 04:23 PM
- - UmaroVI   You can't exceed your (unaugmented) racial max...   Feb 23 2012, 05:01 PM
- - mmmkay   Oh right, UmaroVI you remember the rules very well...   Feb 24 2012, 02:00 AM
- - Phatpug   QUOTE (mmmkay @ Feb 21 2012, 12:07 AM) Bo...   Feb 25 2012, 04:43 AM


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