 Free Spirit 'Realistic Form', Are there any limitations? |
 Mar 3 2012, 01:33 PM
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Warning: I've not read the rules recently so this may all be clearly stated there, so appologies if it is...
So can a 'realistic form spirit' manifest as anything it wants? Are there limitations on scale / looks / etc... For example could they manifest as a dragon? An aircraft carrier? A city? Ok, the last two are silly but still, you get my point? I guess a reasonable thing to do would say it has a maximum area equal to the spirit's force? Thanks |
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Aria Free Spirit 'Realistic Form' Mar 3 2012, 01:33 PM
Yerameyahu AFAIK, the rules are totally vague. It gives a cou... Mar 3 2012, 03:06 PM Neraph Realistic Form only allows it to look real. Mutabl... Mar 3 2012, 03:38 PM
The Jopp QUOTE (Neraph @ Mar 3 2012, 04:38 PM) Rea... Mar 3 2012, 07:31 PM pbangarth QUOTE (The Jopp @ Mar 3 2012, 02:31 PM) W... Mar 4 2012, 06:44 AM Jhaiisiin I'd allow for a spirit to have a single set re... Mar 3 2012, 07:57 PM The Jake A spirit with Materialisation has one designated f... Mar 4 2012, 06:43 AM pbangarth QUOTE (The Jake @ Mar 4 2012, 01:43 AM) A... Mar 4 2012, 06:46 AM The Jake QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 4 2012, 07:46 AM) ... Mar 4 2012, 08:23 AM Yerameyahu Even in a limited version, it seems nutty that a s... Mar 4 2012, 06:58 AM Irion The major issue is, they do not change his "a... Mar 4 2012, 10:45 AM Dakka Dakka It is more than appearance. functionality is also ... Mar 4 2012, 11:20 AM Irion @Dakka Dakka
And how is it contradicting?
He coul... Mar 4 2012, 12:18 PM The Jake So what spirit type would mimic the effects of a t... Mar 4 2012, 01:12 PM Irion @The Jake
It is a power for free spirits. So every... Mar 4 2012, 01:40 PM The Jake QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 4 2012, 02:40 PM) @The... Mar 5 2012, 02:30 AM Yerameyahu Which is why the whole rule should be scrapped. Th... Mar 4 2012, 03:12 PM Irion Which opens the same problems, again.
Now the toa... Mar 4 2012, 03:27 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein Or, you know, you go by what the actual rule state... Mar 4 2012, 03:37 PM Yerameyahu Sigh. Your solution is *always* 'I'm sure ... Mar 4 2012, 03:39 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2012, 08:39 AM)... Mar 4 2012, 03:45 PM KarmaInferno The toaster spirit would be immune to standard wal... Mar 4 2012, 03:50 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Mar 4 2012, 08:50 A... Mar 4 2012, 04:14 PM Yerameyahu My point is, TJ, that you argue from free-form: ev... Mar 4 2012, 04:01 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2012, 09:01 AM)... Mar 4 2012, 04:12 PM Irion @Tymeaus Jalynsfein
QUOTE Exactly. I agree with yo... Mar 4 2012, 04:31 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 4 2012, 09:31 AM) @Tym... Mar 4 2012, 04:58 PM Yerameyahu I didn't say 'detail everything'. (Nor... Mar 4 2012, 05:11 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2012, 10:11 AM)... Mar 4 2012, 05:30 PM Neraph QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 4 2012, 09:27 AM) Whic... Mar 4 2012, 06:12 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Neraph @ Mar 4 2012, 11:12 AM) I w... Mar 4 2012, 06:30 PM Neraph QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein)Incorrect, it has EXAMPL... Mar 6 2012, 06:31 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Neraph @ Mar 6 2012, 11:31 AM) Act... Mar 6 2012, 07:53 PM Yerameyahu Again, no one asked for "describe down to the... Mar 4 2012, 05:41 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2012, 10:41 AM)... Mar 4 2012, 06:26 PM KarmaInferno Letting the toaster be unaffected by wall voltage ... Mar 4 2012, 06:23 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Mar 4 2012, 11:23 A... Mar 4 2012, 06:32 PM Yerameyahu Sigh. The point is that you had to say 'no... Mar 4 2012, 06:49 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2012, 11:49 AM)... Mar 4 2012, 07:45 PM Irion @Yerameyahu
QUOTE I don't think the question o... Mar 4 2012, 07:41 PM KarmaInferno It is true that the rules should cover things come... Mar 4 2012, 07:52 PM Irion QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Mar 4 2012, 08:52 P... Mar 4 2012, 08:39 PM Yerameyahu Quite so, KarmaInferno. Which is why, if I'd s... Mar 4 2012, 08:20 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2012, 01:20 PM)... Mar 4 2012, 09:22 PM Yerameyahu I never suggested allowing Shapechange to work for... Mar 4 2012, 09:34 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2012, 02:34 PM)... Mar 4 2012, 09:51 PM Irian QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 4 2012, 10... Mar 4 2012, 10:00 PM Yerameyahu QUOTE Except that you will never have rules so cle... Mar 4 2012, 10:08 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2012, 03:08 PM)... Mar 5 2012, 01:37 AM Yerameyahu Of the half dozen examples and analogies I attempt... Mar 5 2012, 01:50 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2012, 06:50 PM)... Mar 5 2012, 02:19 AM Yerameyahu The GM has to do everything… for Realistic F... Mar 5 2012, 02:26 AM Irion @The Jake
Thats why I would prefere for multible a... Mar 5 2012, 07:55 AM The Jake QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 5 2012, 08:55 AM) @The... Mar 5 2012, 10:00 AM The Jopp Well, I would keep it simple.
Whatever form the p... Mar 5 2012, 01:43 PM The Jopp This brings up another point.
In my post above i ... Mar 5 2012, 02:13 PM NiL_FisK_Urd As a GM, i would just say NO if my player wants hi... Mar 5 2012, 02:31 PM The Jopp You could have a damn versatile spirit though if i... Mar 5 2012, 02:53 PM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (The Jopp @ Mar 5 2012, 03:53 PM) 2... Mar 5 2012, 02:59 PM NiL_FisK_Urd Now take a free spirit with muteable form, realist... Mar 5 2012, 02:56 PM The Jopp QUOTE (NiL_FisK_Urd @ Mar 5 2012, 03:56 P... Mar 5 2012, 03:06 PM NiL_FisK_Urd Just play a PC free spirit Mar 5 2012, 03:09 PM Yerameyahu If the choice is between 'merely appears to be... Mar 5 2012, 03:22 PM Brainpiercing7.62mm QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 5 2012, 04:22 PM)... Mar 5 2012, 03:44 PM NiL_FisK_Urd QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Mar 5 2012, 04... Mar 5 2012, 04:52 PM Brainpiercing7.62mm QUOTE (NiL_FisK_Urd @ Mar 5 2012, 05:52 P... Mar 5 2012, 05:04 PM The Jopp QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 5 2012, 04:22 PM)... Mar 5 2012, 03:53 PM pbangarth QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 5 2012, 10:22 AM)... Mar 6 2012, 12:48 AM Irion @Brainpiercing7.62mm
QUOTE ell, the way I see it t... Mar 5 2012, 07:54 PM Brainpiercing7.62mm QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 5 2012, 08:54 PM) @Bra... Mar 6 2012, 12:49 AM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Mar 6 2012, 01... Mar 6 2012, 07:10 AM The Jopp QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Mar 6 2012, 08:10 AM... Mar 6 2012, 08:26 AM Yerameyahu Pretty much. I still have a tiny problem with a sp... Mar 5 2012, 08:18 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 5 2012, 01:18 PM)... Mar 5 2012, 09:15 PM Bigity I never liked that ally spirit. Odd that the guy ... Mar 5 2012, 08:21 PM Irion @Bigity
It has. If you got the karma to buy one, t... Mar 5 2012, 09:44 PM Bigity QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 5 2012, 03:44 PM) @Big... Mar 5 2012, 10:31 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Bigity @ Mar 5 2012, 03:31 PM) I l... Mar 5 2012, 10:53 PM Bigity QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 5 2012, 04... Mar 6 2012, 02:19 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Bigity @ Mar 6 2012, 07:19 AM) Dis... Mar 6 2012, 03:41 PM The Jake A cheap way to get Aura Masking on your ally is to... Mar 5 2012, 11:56 PM bobbaganoosh The way I see it, a free spirit can take on any fo... Mar 6 2012, 02:57 AM pbangarth Actually, without either Realistic Form or Mutable... Mar 6 2012, 05:59 AM Udoshi QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 5 2012, 10:59 PM) ... Mar 6 2012, 06:34 AM The Jopp Why not use the same rules as for the Shapeshange ... Mar 6 2012, 07:57 AM Irion @Brainpiercing7.62mm
So we would agree?
One simple... Mar 6 2012, 08:26 AM The Jopp QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 6 2012, 09:26 AM) @Bra... Mar 6 2012, 08:31 AM Irion @The Jopp
I somehow do not like it. So many cases,... Mar 6 2012, 09:43 AM Midas Good question from the OP. My 2 new yen's wort... Mar 6 2012, 09:58 AM Irion My problem is, why should you ever consider taking... Mar 6 2012, 10:00 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 6 2012, 03:00 AM) My p... Mar 6 2012, 03:27 PM Brainpiercing7.62mm QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 6 2012, 04... Mar 6 2012, 03:33 PM Brainpiercing7.62mm QUOTE (pbangarth)Realistic Form adds one more whic... Mar 6 2012, 10:09 AM The Jopp QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Mar 6 2012, 11... Mar 6 2012, 11:57 AM The Jopp QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Mar 6 2012, 11... Mar 6 2012, 12:13 PM Irion @Brainpiercing7.62mm
So it seems we agree.
I woul... Mar 6 2012, 10:59 AM Yerameyahu Personally, I wouldn't let them fly at all. Th... Mar 6 2012, 12:48 PM Aria QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 6 2012, 01:48 PM)... Mar 6 2012, 01:03 PM Yerameyahu QUOTE Now, are you going to really argue that you ... Mar 6 2012, 08:30 PM Dakka Dakka No, the option is already there. The stats for suc... Mar 6 2012, 08:33 PM  |
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