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Ever since 1st ed SR I have wondered about lighter than air crafts. Not the blimp drones that can hang in air forever but the zeppelins. The great airships hinted at along the way but which seem to have died out by 4th ed.

Even before the Hindenberg BBq in 1937 airships were losing out to airplanes for technology but if there hand't been ww2 it might have carried on.

Zepp' are slower than planes so you don't take them for speed travel, a top speed of around 98 MPH really can't compete with planes in a get to a from b in time
So my thought was when do you take a trip where the speed doesn't matter? The answer is a luxery cruise. In RL the Costa Concordia was supposed to loop around the sites of the western med. In the US cruise ships loop the Carib or down the west coast of Mexico or up through Alaska.

No one really goes anywhere fast it's the voyage that counts. Zeps could follow similar ocurses but also not be limited to coasts. a cruise of great CSA cities springs to mind, or through coasts generally too choppy for cruises-from Denmark to Brittany and bakc through the UK comes to mind.

At it's height the Hindenberg could carry 50 passengers nad had a crew of 60-80. Crewmen worked 4 hours on 8 hours off. When it was destroyed the Zeppelin company was working on 2 new ships that had capacity of 50 % more.

Individual 'state' rooms were small. little wider than a sofa and a desk. The sofa at night owuld be turned into 2 bunks, one above the other. The idea is most people would spend time not in their closet, I mean cabin, but in the lounges, dining room or bar. Weight had to be saved in a lot of odd ways but modern metals should go even further. I can give more stats if needed but the lounge in the 3rd Indianna Jones film was pretty good.

what do you think? Beyond answering the old issues raised it could be a whole new area for runs, a whole new industry- ship designes, tricks for lightening equipment, luxery commodeties, courses for ships, and so forth.
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- Snow_Fox   In a plane you fly, in the Graf you voyage.   Apr 2 2012, 02:35 AM
- - Emperor Tippy   See the Luftschiffbau Zeppelin LZ-2065 (Zeppelin) ...   Apr 2 2012, 03:22 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Apr 2 2012, 10:35 AM) S...   Apr 2 2012, 03:33 AM
- - Mercer   There might also be something to the idea that in ...   Apr 2 2012, 07:36 AM
- - Shortstraw   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroscraft   Apr 2 2012, 09:00 AM
|- - Ryu   For luxury cruise vehicles, being driven by the wi...   Apr 3 2012, 07:35 PM
- - rlor   I'd think another bonus would be their long ai...   Apr 2 2012, 06:03 PM
- - Paul   I love LTA craft. They play heavily into my games-...   Apr 2 2012, 08:13 PM
- - snowRaven   KondOrchid uses a lot of LTA craft in south americ...   Apr 2 2012, 10:57 PM
- - Stahlseele   I had a character planned who had a completely ste...   Apr 2 2012, 11:09 PM
- - The Jopp   You could make campaings that literally never touc...   Apr 3 2012, 09:04 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Well, Most (if not all) LTA's cannot operate a...   Apr 3 2012, 02:11 PM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 3 2012, 02...   Apr 3 2012, 02:17 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Apr 3 2012, 07:17 AM) W...   Apr 3 2012, 02:41 PM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 3 2012, 02...   Apr 3 2012, 02:44 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Apr 3 2012, 07:44 AM) A...   Apr 3 2012, 03:06 PM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 3 2012, 04...   Apr 3 2012, 03:10 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Apr 3 2012, 08:10 AM) D...   Apr 3 2012, 03:12 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You'd still better hope your stealth and defen...   Apr 3 2012, 03:21 PM
- - Stahlseele   The Seconds of use are for the rocket thrusters on...   Apr 3 2012, 03:25 PM
- - Yerameyahu   They're talking about the RAW application of t...   Apr 3 2012, 03:28 PM
- - Stahlseele   so a car uses up fuel/battery power even when it...   Apr 3 2012, 03:55 PM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 3 2012, 04:55 PM)...   Apr 3 2012, 06:31 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Wiggle your eyes all you want, but I'm just sa...   Apr 3 2012, 06:33 PM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 3 2012, 06:33 PM)...   Apr 3 2012, 06:37 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's just that the LTA mod is more 'expect...   Apr 3 2012, 07:02 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 3 2012, 01:02 PM)...   Apr 3 2012, 07:13 PM
- - Stahlseele   Well, a missle ain't as heavy as stuff it...   Apr 3 2012, 07:14 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 3 2012, 01:14 PM)...   Apr 3 2012, 07:15 PM
- - Stahlseele   Poor Cargolifter, never got off the ground . .   Apr 3 2012, 07:39 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's not a question of weight, here, but of th...   Apr 3 2012, 07:50 PM
- - Snow_Fox   Heavy weather in not an issue asm uch as you'd...   Apr 4 2012, 02:35 AM
- - Angelone   The Hidenberg also wasn't as much as a disaste...   Apr 4 2012, 03:10 AM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Angelone @ Apr 3 2012, 11:10 PM) T...   Apr 4 2012, 06:08 AM
- - Stahlseele   You can also do Talespin 2072, including the Iron ...   Apr 4 2012, 09:29 AM
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|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 4 2012, 04:29 AM)...   Apr 4 2012, 11:29 AM
- - Stahlseele   Well, over here, people know Talespin a lot better...   Apr 4 2012, 01:29 PM
- - Shortstraw   Consider a dirigible composed of material x with d...   Apr 4 2012, 02:16 PM
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- - Shortstraw   My first character ended his career flying into sp...   Apr 4 2012, 02:26 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You can do anything with unobtainium.   Apr 4 2012, 02:30 PM
- - Shortstraw   Well in shadowrun you can get magicians to levitat...   Apr 4 2012, 02:32 PM
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- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 4 2012, 09:29 AM)...   Apr 4 2012, 04:37 PM
- - Snow_Fox   pop up turret on the top with a minigun with a vul...   Apr 5 2012, 02:32 AM
- - Yerameyahu   They're also slow, etc. There are a few things...   Apr 5 2012, 02:40 AM
- - The Jopp   We can get in troublesome territory when inventive...   Apr 5 2012, 01:37 PM
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- - Pendaric   I have liked luxury zeppelins since my cyber punk ...   Apr 5 2012, 11:52 PM
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- - Snow_Fox   I'm not sure about that style but you're r...   Apr 9 2012, 01:55 AM
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