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Have a new player making a character and want to make sure I get a couple of rules correct.
First, it makes sense that getting cybereyes removes any natural vision mods (lowlight and thermographic), but I cannot find or remember any written reference to that. Secondly. Linguasofts can only be accessed with DNI (such as sim module or datajack). If the l-softs are stored on storage media and connected through a datajack, will that be enough? Or do they require a commlink and have the softs count against the processor limit? Which is my preferred option. |
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IridiosDZ Cybereyes and Linguasofts Jul 21 2012, 02:53 AM
Yerameyahu That's so obvious that there might not be a ru... Jul 21 2012, 03:17 AM
Wakshaani QUOTE (IridiosDZ @ Jul 20 2012, 09:53 PM)... Jul 21 2012, 03:03 PM
Yerameyahu It's a little unclear. It either says it requi... Jul 21 2012, 03:48 PM
Krishach 1) I KNOW I've read this somewhere, and it was... Jul 22 2012, 04:03 PM
Yerameyahu It might be an interesting house rule to treat lin... Jul 22 2012, 04:19 PM
Falconer No you actually have to slot, load, and RUN the li... Jul 22 2012, 04:43 PM
Yerameyahu I don't see where the rules say you run a ling... Jul 22 2012, 04:49 PM
Falconer No, it's not a house rule Yera. You're th... Jul 22 2012, 04:56 PM
Yerameyahu Softs are explicitly not Matrix Programs. You... Jul 22 2012, 05:01 PM
Falconer Because the character wants to simply say... this ... Jul 22 2012, 05:19 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein A Datajack is a Device. Therefore it has an unspec... Jul 22 2012, 05:21 PM
Falconer TJ: I agree... mostly you're only not catchin... Jul 22 2012, 05:30 PM
bannockburn I think you misunderstood, Falconer.
The OP asks t... Jul 22 2012, 05:33 PM
Falconer Duh... mea magna culpa... Yes I went about it th... Jul 22 2012, 05:38 PM
Yerameyahu Falconer, I can never be sure if you're being ... Jul 22 2012, 05:42 PM
Falconer Yera:
Read the rules for peripheral nodes in unwir... Jul 22 2012, 05:56 PM
Yerameyahu I'm not arguing any of that, because it's ... Jul 22 2012, 06:00 PM
Falconer It wouldn't need to. You need either a dataj... Jul 22 2012, 06:08 PM
Yerameyahu I never once said that they weren't software, ... Jul 22 2012, 06:11 PM
Falconer Easy device response upgrade... same as anything e... Jul 22 2012, 06:25 PM
Yerameyahu Actually, this part has always confused me: is the... Jul 22 2012, 07:03 PM
_Pax._ QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 22 2012, 03:03 PM... Jul 22 2012, 07:31 PM
_Pax._ QUOTE (IridiosDZ @ Jul 20 2012, 10:53 PM)... Jul 22 2012, 07:28 PM
Yerameyahu I don't think anyone's having trouble with... Jul 22 2012, 07:32 PM
_Pax._ Somewhat related, a reasonable houserule would be ... Jul 22 2012, 07:35 PM
Yerameyahu I wonder. Or is the tech version just a totally di... Jul 22 2012, 07:38 PM
Inu As far as DNI goes, I thought simsense module was ... Jul 22 2012, 09:09 PM
Yerameyahu Trodes *is* DNI (as is a datajack or an implant co... Jul 22 2012, 09:21 PM
_Pax._ No, it's not already built-in; that's why ... Jul 22 2012, 10:19 PM
Yerameyahu I said *should* have it built in. Your examples a... Jul 22 2012, 10:36 PM
Falconer Yes, but you don't need a sim-module with a co... Jul 22 2012, 11:28 PM
_Pax._ QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 22 2012, 06:28 PM) ... Jul 23 2012, 12:57 AM
Yerameyahu I'm saying you do need it, because simsense is... Jul 22 2012, 11:36 PM
Falconer Pax:
Page 328... text trumps tables.
Sim Module i... Jul 23 2012, 01:25 AM
_Pax._ QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 22 2012, 09:25 PM) ... Jul 23 2012, 01:57 AM
Falconer Because you're making up a requirement which i... Jul 23 2012, 02:36 AM
Yerameyahu But they totally should be built into commlinks, b... Jul 23 2012, 02:43 AM
_Pax._ QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 22 2012, 10:36 PM) ... Jul 23 2012, 06:10 AM
Falconer It makes sense to me Yera... In the past simdecks... Jul 23 2012, 03:18 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 22 2012, 08:18 PM) ... Jul 23 2012, 01:18 PM
Falconer NiL_FisK_Urd:
Now calculate the essence cost. I ... Jul 23 2012, 10:17 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 23 2012, 03:17 PM) ... Jul 23 2012, 10:32 PM
NiL_FisK_Urd QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 23 2012, 11:17 PM) ... Jul 24 2012, 08:33 AM
Yerameyahu I don't know how big a sim module is. I don... Jul 23 2012, 03:26 AM
_Pax._ (double post) Jul 23 2012, 06:12 AM
Yerameyahu Pax, Falconer is saying the rules say they *cannot... Jul 23 2012, 02:05 PM
_Pax._ QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 23 2012, 10:05 AM... Jul 23 2012, 02:43 PM
forgarn I am just throwing this out there:
QUOTE (SR4a, p... Jul 23 2012, 04:07 PM
Yerameyahu Except apparently a linguasoft can be used directl... Jul 23 2012, 04:12 PM
NiL_FisK_Urd QUOTE ("AUGMENTATION @ p.48")Shiaw... Jul 23 2012, 06:44 PM
Yerameyahu So… all simsense is equally good. I don't unde... Jul 23 2012, 10:42 PM
Udoshi QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 23 2012, 03:42 PM... Jul 23 2012, 11:03 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 23 2012, 03:42 PM... Jul 23 2012, 11:03 PM
Yerameyahu Could be, Udoshi. Nothing about 'home theater... Jul 23 2012, 11:29 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 23 2012, 04:29 PM... Jul 24 2012, 01:27 PM
Falconer Yeah, it just comes down to fluff. You can buy bi... Jul 24 2012, 12:07 AM
Yerameyahu Yeah. SR4 just threw all that complexity away: sim... Jul 24 2012, 12:26 AM
Krishach just to try to reconnect to the original topic, th... Jul 24 2012, 12:33 AM
Yerameyahu That's a pretty fluffy line. The book also say... Jul 24 2012, 12:37 AM
Krishach QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 24 2012, 12:37 AM... Jul 24 2012, 01:53 AM
Yerameyahu I don't care about implicit. You're eithe... Jul 24 2012, 02:08 AM
Krishach Actually, the rules are for "programs." ... Jul 24 2012, 02:13 AM
Yerameyahu I didn't say they weren't programs. I said... Jul 24 2012, 02:24 AM
Krishach QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 24 2012, 02:24 AM... Jul 24 2012, 02:30 AM
Yerameyahu First, please read the very first sentence in that... Jul 24 2012, 02:36 AM
Krishach QUOTE ("the MATRIX" SR4a pg 18)The Matri... Jul 24 2012, 02:52 AM
DMiller QUOTE SR4 p320
Knowsoft: Knowsofts replicate Knowl... Jul 24 2012, 02:56 AM
Yerameyahu Krishach, that's just silly. We've already... Jul 24 2012, 03:01 AM
Krishach QUOTE (Yerameyahu)You're the one who made the ... Jul 24 2012, 03:14 AM
Krishach also, just as a thought, if lingusofts, tutorsofts... Jul 24 2012, 03:22 AM
Falconer In which case, Sensor Software (p60 Arsenal), Tacn... Jul 24 2012, 04:04 AM
Yerameyahu QUOTE This is what I am arguing: the PROGRAMS head... Jul 24 2012, 10:52 AM
Falconer Yera... that's because skillsofts aren't r... Jul 24 2012, 08:53 PM
Yerameyahu Wait, so now the 'PROGRAMS' section is onl... Jul 24 2012, 11:37 PM
Falconer Actually no a datajack doesn't include a full ... Jul 25 2012, 12:18 AM
Yerameyahu I don't think that's the fluff, but it... Jul 25 2012, 12:29 AM![]() ![]() |
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