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Character generation gets you a character decked out in the equipment you purchased. But once you've done that and formed a group, why do characters pay for things afterwards? (BTW I only own the SR4 book and Street Magic. This may be dealt with in other books.)

Let's say that you don't mess where you sleep: you pay for your Lifestyle with the cleanest nuyen you have access to. Nobody wants a midnight raid. Beyond that, you need gear. Comlinks, weapons, software, vehicles, clothing, etc.

The team Face and Hacker sit down one night over beer and Thai food and start making notes. They decide that once every 4 months they will make a "shopping trip" Run for the team. The goals are: #1 - Minimum risk. #2 - No, really - MINIMUM RISK! #3 Not paying for much.

Almost everything can be delivered to your door in 2070. Amazon.com has been replaced by the billion other Amazon.com's.

The Face goes to an office building and negotiates with the owner to rent an unused space near the docking bay for a week. He's disguised, of course, with a disposable ID, and has a good story about being an out-of-town salesperson who needs a meeting room and will set up some props delivered from his home office. When he's in he has a professional cleaning service come in and give the entry way to the office a thorough sprucing up. IKEA instant reception area and some generic TAGs with logos on the walls. Total cost: 1000 nuyen. (GM says "Ha! 3000!" Players grumble.) Total cost: 3000 nuyen.

Meanwhile the Hacker does some research. A Fulfillment Center is a giant warehouse that has an amazing system of robotics inside. The purpose of this marvel is to rapidly put boxes full of stuff onto waiting trucks. These trucks then take all the boxes and deliver them to ADHD customers who want everything delivered before they ordered it. It's a moderately tough hack, but not more difficult than a hardened research facility. It takes a little doing, and includes having the face bribing an OSHA official to "borrow" his ID while he takes a look inside. The Hacker pours over the data gathered on the "safety inspection", and gets a nice overview of the model of robot he needs to hack.

A tech has been hired, or conscripted from within the team. He builds a Faraday cage in the back room of the office and gets a TAG eraser handy.

On the second day the Face shows up at the office and prepares the entry way with danishes and fresh flowers, and name TAGS for a bunch of people who will never actually arrive. This is the most dangerous assignment of the Run.

The Hacker hacks. 86,000 nuyen of equipment is boxed and labeled for immediate delivery. It's going to the team's office. The Hacker makes the system think it's a load of fancy paper totaling 250 nuyen.

In 2070 "immediate delivery" means immediate. A truck is ID'd as going near this location and the boxes are automatically loaded by robot onto it. The delivery truck courteously and constantly informs the "customer" of its location as it nears the building, and the Face is ready when it arrives. He waves his ID and invoice number at the delivery bot/guy and authorizes the 250 payment, and a nice tip. "Just set it over there", he says, waving a hand at an empty corner. He's busy, after all. The delivery guy/bot leaves; he's busy too.

The Face hand-trucks the stuff into the Faraday cage and TAG erases everything. The off-site Hacker has been using some surveillance drones to case the area. Are there cops? If yes, a disposable comlink outside the Faraday cage beeps "Way Down Upon The Swanee River" and the Face books it. If no, the comlink plays elevator muzik.

When he's done making the TAG's safe he hand-trucks the stuff to a waiting delivery van he rented ("RENT me by the HOUR!") the night before. The Hacker tells the van to drive, slow and steady, and sends one of his drones after it. The Face gets some industrial Lysol/solvent spray and hoses down everything in the small office. It takes 10 minutes and the smell doesn't have time to escape the doors out into the rest of the building. He consults his comlink checklist to get everything he was supposed to bring, and drops the disposable comlink into a small glass of acid. It'll be gone by the time he's a block away.

The Face leaves and walks or drives away while the Hacker's other drone scans for tails. After ensuring that the Face is safe, it leaves and follows the rented delivery van.

The delivery van goes to an industrial park and drives around for a few minutes to let the second drone catch up, and both drones take a last look for anyone tailing the van. When safe, the van stops and the rest of the team transfers the stuff to their own vehicles. Lastly, they clean the van.

The van drives back to the rental place. The team and the Face drive back to base. Everyone enjoys their radically-discounted items.

This was fun to write! Certainly things could go wrong on this Run, but is there anything structurally wrong about the plan? What keeps teams from doing this all the time? Maybe they need to spoof records for the licenses afterwards, and file off serial numbers.

I suppose the GM could handwave and say that all Fulfillment Centers are hardened better than anything else the players will ever encounter, but that seems a bit mean.

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- Thorguild   Do SR characters PAY for things?   Aug 29 2012, 02:46 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I assume it's the same reason they do anything...   Aug 29 2012, 02:56 PM
- - almost normal   Shadowrun is about being a deniable asset. You...   Aug 29 2012, 03:00 PM
- - Speed Wraith   You could do a lot of spoofing and get a lot for f...   Aug 29 2012, 03:15 PM
- - Pendaric   In a word, convenience. One, who wants to work all...   Aug 29 2012, 03:44 PM
|- - Thorguild   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Aug 29 2012, 10:44 AM) ...   Aug 29 2012, 04:13 PM
- - Fatum   The most obvious issue with the plan is this: most...   Aug 29 2012, 03:45 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   It's not a bad idea, just don't drek where...   Aug 29 2012, 04:12 PM
|- - almost normal   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Aug 29 2012, 12...   Aug 29 2012, 04:38 PM
||- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (almost normal @ Aug 29 2012, 10:38...   Aug 29 2012, 10:55 PM
||- - Fatum   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 30 2012, 02:5...   Aug 30 2012, 08:25 AM
||- - almost normal   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 29 2012, 05:5...   Aug 30 2012, 02:42 PM
||- - Fatum   QUOTE (almost normal @ Aug 30 2012, 06:42...   Aug 30 2012, 03:54 PM
||- - almost normal   QUOTE (Fatum @ Aug 30 2012, 11:54 AM) Tur...   Aug 30 2012, 04:12 PM
||- - Speed Wraith   QUOTE (almost normal @ Aug 30 2012, 11:12...   Aug 30 2012, 04:27 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Aug 29 2012, 07...   Aug 29 2012, 05:10 PM
|- - Speed Wraith   QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 29 2012, 12:10 PM) The p...   Aug 29 2012, 05:14 PM
- - TeknoDragon   Nice idea... up until someone glitches a roll.   Aug 29 2012, 05:21 PM
- - Fatum   Only dead men glitch.   Aug 29 2012, 05:58 PM
- - Warlordtheft   Sometimes a glitch just happens. That being said, ...   Aug 29 2012, 08:05 PM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Aug 29 2012, 04:05 ...   Aug 29 2012, 08:25 PM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Aug 29 2012, 04:05 ...   Aug 29 2012, 08:46 PM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Aug 29 2012, 04:46 ...   Aug 29 2012, 09:10 PM
- - Fatum   Mathematically speaking, glitching on a pool of si...   Aug 29 2012, 08:21 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Fatum @ Aug 29 2012, 02:21 PM) Mat...   Aug 30 2012, 12:32 AM
- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Thorguild @ Aug 29 2012, 10:46 AM)...   Aug 29 2012, 08:25 PM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Aug 29 2012, 04:25 PM) So...   Aug 29 2012, 09:04 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Aug 29 2012, 04...   Aug 29 2012, 09:50 PM
||- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Aug 29 2012, 03:50 PM) © ...   Aug 29 2012, 10:43 PM
||- - _Pax._   QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Aug 29 2012, 05:43 P...   Aug 30 2012, 01:51 AM
|- - DuckEggBlue Omega   Yes, this is a perfectly valid, player generated r...   Aug 30 2012, 09:27 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (DuckEggBlue Omega @ Aug 30 2012, 03...   Aug 30 2012, 12:52 PM
|- - DuckEggBlue Omega   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 30 2012, 10...   Aug 30 2012, 01:23 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (DuckEggBlue Omega @ Aug 30 2012, 07...   Aug 30 2012, 01:29 PM
- - Yerameyahu   QUOTE Only if you make a habit of ripping off one ...   Aug 29 2012, 08:32 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE Full stop. If the system "thinks it...   Aug 29 2012, 09:04 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE There may also be physical eyes on all of th...   Aug 29 2012, 09:05 PM
- - Yerameyahu   "protological"? That was a new one on me...   Aug 29 2012, 10:10 PM
- - Hida Tsuzua   Really this is just a reskin of the good old ...   Aug 29 2012, 10:51 PM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (Hida Tsuzua @ Aug 29 2012, 11:51 P...   Aug 30 2012, 09:07 AM
|- - Hida Tsuzua   QUOTE (Midas @ Aug 30 2012, 10:07 AM) It ...   Aug 30 2012, 06:59 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yeah, Hida Tsuzua. This is also partially based on...   Aug 29 2012, 11:11 PM
- - CanRay   Going through the Black Market ensures that you...   Aug 30 2012, 02:56 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 29 2012, 08:56 PM) Go...   Aug 30 2012, 12:47 PM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 30 2012, 08...   Aug 30 2012, 12:52 PM
|- - almost normal   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 30 2012, 07...   Aug 30 2012, 02:47 PM
|- - Speed Wraith   QUOTE (almost normal @ Aug 30 2012, 10:47...   Aug 30 2012, 03:21 PM
- - Starmage21   Oddly enough, I have ZERO issues with what the OP ...   Aug 30 2012, 03:12 AM
|- - KnightAries   QUOTE (Starmage21 @ Aug 29 2012, 08:12 PM...   Aug 30 2012, 03:55 AM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Starmage21 @ Aug 29 2012, 10:12 PM...   Aug 30 2012, 04:14 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Are the corps not the man?   Aug 30 2012, 04:01 AM
- - CanRay   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 30 2012, 07...   Aug 30 2012, 01:23 PM
- - Yerameyahu   If he did what the RAW says, it's hard to faul...   Aug 30 2012, 02:05 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 30 2012, 09:05 AM...   Aug 30 2012, 05:11 PM
- - almost normal   Pretty much.   Aug 30 2012, 04:34 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 30 2012, 08...   Aug 30 2012, 04:40 PM
- - almost normal   I guess we just don't see the resonance in the...   Aug 30 2012, 05:00 PM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (almost normal @ Aug 30 2012, 09:00...   Aug 30 2012, 06:45 PM
||- - Speed Wraith   QUOTE (Fatum @ Aug 30 2012, 01:45 PM) Exa...   Aug 30 2012, 06:49 PM
|- - UmaroVI   QUOTE (almost normal @ Aug 30 2012, 01:00...   Aug 30 2012, 07:33 PM
|- - almost normal   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Aug 30 2012, 03:33 PM) T...   Aug 30 2012, 08:10 PM
- - Fatum   When discussing the changes to the system's fl...   Aug 30 2012, 06:57 PM
- - Adarael   I'd like to point out that this kind of route ...   Aug 30 2012, 09:52 PM
- - _Pax._   Very well summed up, Adarael.   Aug 30 2012, 11:24 PM
- - Yerameyahu   How dare you state facts with references, UmaroVI.   Aug 31 2012, 12:40 AM
- - Thorguild   OP Here. This thread has taken a lot of turns, so...   Aug 31 2012, 01:18 AM
- - Thorguild   Adarael's post makes me glad I bought Erased.....   Aug 31 2012, 03:08 AM
- - _Pax._   Erased is indeed a godlike trait.   Aug 31 2012, 03:40 AM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Aug 30 2012, 10:40 PM) Er...   Aug 31 2012, 07:46 AM
- - Fatum   Going by its description, a good hacker should be ...   Aug 31 2012, 10:32 AM
- - Speed Wraith   QUOTE (Thorguild @ Aug 30 2012, 11:08 PM)...   Aug 31 2012, 01:57 PM
- - almost normal   I've banned Erased before. It takes too much c...   Aug 31 2012, 02:04 PM
- - Yerameyahu   QUOTE Fun fact: You can buy it for 20 Karma post-c...   Aug 31 2012, 03:13 PM
|- - Speed Wraith   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 31 2012, 11:13 AM...   Aug 31 2012, 03:22 PM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 31 2012, 10:13 AM...   Aug 31 2012, 03:53 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's what I'm saying, though: Erased is ...   Aug 31 2012, 04:30 PM
|- - Speed Wraith   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 31 2012, 11:30 AM...   Aug 31 2012, 04:35 PM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Speed Wraith @ Aug 31 2012, 12:35 ...   Aug 31 2012, 05:16 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Aug 31 2012, 01...   Aug 31 2012, 06:23 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Aug 31 2012, 11...   Aug 31 2012, 06:54 PM
|- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Aug 31 2012, 12...   Aug 31 2012, 07:12 PM
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|- - Speed Wraith   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 31 2012, 11:45 AM...   Aug 31 2012, 05:05 PM
- - Falconer   Gee a large criminal enterprise with the means and...   Aug 31 2012, 05:25 PM
- - Speed Wraith   What Falconer said. Bottom line is, it is a Negat...   Aug 31 2012, 05:37 PM
- - CanRay   Paying your owed amount ahead of time, thus denyin...   Aug 31 2012, 05:47 PM
- - Speed Wraith   I should add that as a GM I would allow a characte...   Aug 31 2012, 05:58 PM
- - Falconer   Another good way to slowly work off the quality is...   Aug 31 2012, 06:06 PM
- - _Pax._   In fact ... I now have a sixteenth houserule. I...   Aug 31 2012, 08:19 PM
|- - UmaroVI   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Aug 31 2012, 03:19 PM) In...   Aug 31 2012, 08:55 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Surely we can skip the whole In Debt thing in this...   Aug 31 2012, 08:36 PM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 31 2012, 04:36 PM...   Aug 31 2012, 08:41 PM
|- - Speed Wraith   QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Aug 31 2012, 03:41 ...   Aug 31 2012, 08:49 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Those sound good, UmaroVI.   Aug 31 2012, 08:57 PM
- - Mäx   I think one one of the simplest changes is to just...   Aug 31 2012, 09:29 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   You know what happens to crime syndicates who try ...   Aug 31 2012, 09:54 PM
- - almost normal   Pretty much what SD said. The Mafia is scary to a...   Aug 31 2012, 09:59 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (almost normal @ Aug 31 2012, 05:59...   Aug 31 2012, 10:04 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Aug 31 2012, 03...   Aug 31 2012, 10:27 PM
- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 31 2012, 03...   Aug 31 2012, 10:43 PM
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