 Problems with Decking in SR4.5, Discuss your complaints here. |
 Jan 12 2013, 06:25 PM
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Spun off from the SR5 thread, per mod request.
QUOTE The point is that cybercombat has zero tactical options. Since there's no "friends in melee" equivalent, having buddies in cybercombat doesn't help. You can't take cover behind another icon, you can't cause a diversion to run away... in short, all you can do is stand there and say "I try to hit him again *yawn*." I think this is an important point. Decking in SR4.5 is a lot of tedious dice rolls, repetitive and dry. Cyber combat is the most glaring example of this, but there are others. Discuss! |
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Cain Problems with Decking in SR4.5 Jan 12 2013, 06:25 PM
Falconer Slight disagree... those options show up in the fo... Jan 12 2013, 07:02 PM Epicedion QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 12 2013, 01:25 PM) Spun... Jan 12 2013, 07:21 PM Nath As I mentioned in the original thread, saying ther... Jan 12 2013, 07:59 PM Cain Like Falconer said, those options cannot be done o... Jan 12 2013, 11:14 PM
Bearclaw QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 12 2013, 04:14 PM) Like... Jan 12 2013, 11:23 PM
Udoshi QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 12 2013, 04:14 PM) Like... Jan 13 2013, 01:27 AM Draco18s QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 12 2013, 08:27 PM) Cr... Jan 13 2013, 05:04 AM Lionhearted What about options outside of cybercombat?
Now, he... Jan 12 2013, 11:37 PM Nath QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 13 2013, 12:14 AM) Like... Jan 12 2013, 11:37 PM Cain Crashing a program is risky and only disarms a pro... Jan 13 2013, 12:03 AM Nath QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 13 2013, 01:03 AM) Cras... Jan 13 2013, 01:01 AM Fatum Okay, let me be brief: the problem with hacking in... Jan 13 2013, 12:18 AM Bearclaw Yea. I don't have a complaint with the rules,... Jan 13 2013, 12:32 AM Lionhearted QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Jan 13 2013, 01:32 AM) ... Jan 13 2013, 12:36 AM Bearclaw It would be a far superior product if it did a com... Jan 13 2013, 01:55 AM Cain QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Jan 12 2013, 04:32 PM) ... Jan 13 2013, 02:21 AM DnDer <<tag for tracking and later contribution to... Jan 13 2013, 08:45 AM kzt A couple of issues I see.
The overreaching issue ... Jan 13 2013, 09:18 AM Lionhearted I think that we managed to establish that very few... Jan 13 2013, 11:24 AM Lionhearted I have a question, as I understand it. When access... Jan 13 2013, 11:46 AM Dolanar Actually there is mention of loading multiple Agen... Jan 13 2013, 11:54 AM Lionhearted Effectively a spam attack, neat Jan 13 2013, 11:58 AM Umidori Why not just use Exploit and a Complex Action to c... Jan 13 2013, 06:10 PM Cain QUOTE (Umidori @ Jan 13 2013, 10:10 AM) W... Jan 13 2013, 09:34 PM Lionhearted QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 13 2013, 10:34 PM) Expl... Jan 13 2013, 09:52 PM Cain QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Jan 13 2013, 01:52 P... Jan 14 2013, 01:39 AM NiL_FisK_Urd No, only one with a ton of programs running. Jan 13 2013, 10:41 PM Lionhearted QUOTE (NiL_FisK_Urd @ Jan 13 2013, 11:41 ... Jan 13 2013, 10:50 PM pbangarth QUOTE (bannockburn @ Jan 12 2013, 03:41 A... Jan 14 2013, 04:50 AM bannockburn No worries, pbangarth, I am far away from insinuat... Jan 14 2013, 09:09 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (bannockburn @ Jan 14 2013, 02:09 A... Jan 14 2013, 04:00 PM NiL_FisK_Urd Well, it say it also protects devices. Accident on... Jan 14 2013, 09:23 AM bannockburn I don't have any problem, thank you very much.... Jan 14 2013, 04:03 PM Draco18s QUOTE (bannockburn @ Jan 14 2013, 11:03 A... Jan 14 2013, 04:17 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (bannockburn @ Jan 14 2013, 09:03 A... Jan 14 2013, 04:18 PM bannockburn And IMO not. ^^ Jan 14 2013, 04:18 PM bannockburn If RAW is stupid, and / or collides with my world ... Jan 14 2013, 04:38 PM NiL_FisK_Urd The spirit can flab your commlink while you make a... Jan 14 2013, 04:51 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (NiL_FisK_Urd @ Jan 14 2013, 09:51 ... Jan 14 2013, 05:11 PM Cain I think the sticking point here is that if the spi... Jan 14 2013, 05:20 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 14 2013, 10:20 AM) I th... Jan 14 2013, 05:58 PM Cain QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 14 2013, 09... Jan 14 2013, 11:13 PM pbangarth QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 14 2013, 06:13 PM) I ne... Jan 14 2013, 11:15 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (pbangarth @ Jan 14 2013, 04:15 PM)... Jan 14 2013, 11:26 PM Cain QUOTE (pbangarth @ Jan 14 2013, 03:15 PM)... Jan 15 2013, 12:01 AM Nath Matrix is not an actual place. It's some code ... Jan 14 2013, 09:59 PM pbangarth It seems to me the spirit would be affecting the h... Jan 14 2013, 11:07 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (pbangarth @ Jan 14 2013, 04:07 PM)... Jan 14 2013, 11:10 PM Halinn How does the Guard power prevent glitches on techn... Jan 15 2013, 03:35 AM Cain QUOTE (Halinn @ Jan 14 2013, 07:35 PM) Ho... Jan 15 2013, 04:39 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 14 2013, 09:39 PM) The ... Jan 15 2013, 02:09 PM Cain QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 15 2013, 06... Jan 15 2013, 07:59 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 15 2013, 12:59 PM) It d... Jan 15 2013, 09:08 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 15 2013, 04... Jan 16 2013, 12:09 AM Fatum QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 16 2013, 04:09 AM) ... Jan 16 2013, 12:11 AM Halinn QUOTE (Fatum @ Jan 16 2013, 01:11 AM) And... Jan 16 2013, 12:22 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 15 2013, 05:09 PM) ... Jan 16 2013, 02:03 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 16 2013, 09... Jan 16 2013, 03:02 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 16 2013, 08:02 AM) ... Jan 16 2013, 04:14 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 16 2013, 11... Jan 16 2013, 04:20 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 16 2013, 09:20 AM) ... Jan 16 2013, 04:53 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 16 2013, 11... Jan 16 2013, 04:55 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 16 2013, 09:55 AM) ... Jan 16 2013, 05:06 PM Epicedion QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 16 2013, 12... Jan 16 2013, 05:17 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jan 16 2013, 10:17 AM)... Jan 16 2013, 05:55 PM Epicedion QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 16 2013, 12... Jan 16 2013, 05:59 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 16 2013, 12... Jan 16 2013, 05:34 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 16 2013, 10:34 AM) ... Jan 16 2013, 05:57 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 16 2013, 12... Jan 16 2013, 06:00 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 16 2013, 11:00 AM) ... Jan 16 2013, 09:08 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 16 2013, 04... Jan 16 2013, 09:12 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 16 2013, 02:12 PM) ... Jan 16 2013, 09:23 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Halinn @ Jan 14 2013, 10:35 PM) Ho... Jan 15 2013, 03:31 PM Draco18s Instead of...say...hacking the camera system remot... Jan 16 2013, 01:31 AM Cain The short answer is: Offline storage.
Offline sto... Jan 16 2013, 01:43 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 15 2013, 06:43 PM) The ... Jan 16 2013, 02:07 PM Falconer I agree Cain... yet when I mentioned the old matri... Jan 16 2013, 02:34 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Falconer @ Jan 15 2013, 07:34 PM) ... Jan 16 2013, 02:12 PM Umidori I feel that the current Matrix structure is just t... Jan 16 2013, 03:59 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Umidori @ Jan 15 2013, 08:59 PM) I... Jan 16 2013, 02:16 PM Lionhearted Door kicked in by HTR is not a good enough motivat... Jan 16 2013, 09:12 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Jan 16 2013, 02:12 P... Jan 16 2013, 09:24 PM Cain TJ, you're ignoring the question. The fact is... Jan 16 2013, 11:06 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 16 2013, 04:06 PM) TJ, ... Jan 16 2013, 11:18 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 16 2013, 06... Jan 16 2013, 11:35 PM Cain QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 16 2013, 03... Jan 16 2013, 11:36 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 16 2013, 04:36 PM) Now,... Jan 16 2013, 11:55 PM tjn QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 16 2013, 06:06 PM) TJ, ... Jan 17 2013, 03:21 AM Draco18s QUOTE (tjn @ Jan 16 2013, 10:21 PM) Unles... Jan 17 2013, 03:33 AM tjn QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 16 2013, 10:33 PM) ... Jan 17 2013, 03:42 AM Draco18s QUOTE (tjn @ Jan 16 2013, 10:42 PM) I... Jan 17 2013, 04:03 AM phlapjack77 QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 17 2013, 12:03 PM) ... Jan 17 2013, 04:42 AM Fatum Remote hacking provides obvious safety benefits (y... Jan 16 2013, 11:33 PM tjn QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 16 2013, 11:03 PM) ... Jan 17 2013, 05:09 AM phlapjack77 QUOTE (tjn @ Jan 17 2013, 01:09 PM) By a ... Jan 17 2013, 05:53 AM tjn QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Jan 17 2013, 12:53 A... Jan 17 2013, 07:12 AM NiL_FisK_Urd QUOTE (tjn @ Jan 17 2013, 08:12 AM) Also,... Jan 17 2013, 07:53 AM Cain QUOTE The big split is more AR vs VR. To do anythi... Jan 17 2013, 11:20 AM Epicedion Here are some things I would do:
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