Feb 4 2013, 11:19 PM
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Hey guys,
I'm researching some negative qualities and I'm trying to figure out how I'll eventually get rid of them. I understand how you would buy off an addiction or skill limit or something, what about stuff like debt? If you took the Debt negative quality and eventually paid it back (in cash) - do you still need to spend the karma to get rid of it? What about Enemies - if you kill them...do you need to buy the quality off in karma too? What about like Hung Out to dry? Do you actually need to buy that off - or do you just need to make new contacts? I couldn't figure out why you'd need to basically pay double to get rid of those. I'm still not sure. |
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yesferatu Buying off Negative Qualities Feb 4 2013, 11:19 PM
Lionhearted Short answer, yes you must always buy it off with ... Feb 4 2013, 11:29 PM
All4BigGuns QUOTE (yesferatu @ Feb 4 2013, 05:19 PM) ... Feb 4 2013, 11:29 PM
yesferatu Yup.
Sadly, the Core isn't that clear.
With de... Feb 4 2013, 11:48 PM
Medicineman QUOTE (yesferatu @ Feb 4 2013, 06:48 PM) ... Feb 5 2013, 11:14 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (yesferatu @ Feb 4 2013, 04:48 PM) ... Feb 5 2013, 02:31 PM
All4BigGuns Yeah, I tend to avoid them myself because of how c... Feb 5 2013, 12:00 AM
O'Ryan This is a tough one!
Debt I wouldn't have... Feb 5 2013, 12:08 AM
All4BigGuns I will admit that I'm leaning toward not makin... Feb 5 2013, 12:15 AM
Mantis In my games I just have you pay back the karma you... Feb 5 2013, 01:40 AM
Shortstraw Actually with in debt your debt has 10% compound i... Feb 5 2013, 05:05 AM
All4BigGuns QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 4 2013, 11:05 PM)... Feb 5 2013, 05:08 AM
_Pax._ QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 5 2013, 12:05 AM)... Feb 5 2013, 06:36 AM

darthmord QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 5 2013, 01:36 AM) Bec... Feb 6 2013, 01:51 PM

_Pax._ QUOTE (darthmord @ Feb 6 2013, 08:51 AM) ... Feb 6 2013, 04:00 PM

Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 6 2013, 09:00 AM) The... Feb 6 2013, 06:23 PM
Tanegar QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 5 2013, 12:05 AM)... Feb 5 2013, 07:48 AM
Stingray QUOTE (Tanegar @ Feb 5 2013, 09:48 AM) Yo... Feb 5 2013, 08:43 AM
All4BigGuns Like I said earlier in the thread though, main rea... Feb 5 2013, 06:39 AM
O'Ryan QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Feb 4 2013, 10:39 PM... Feb 5 2013, 11:02 AM
_Pax._ ... petulant whiny brat, much?
Seriously, that... Feb 5 2013, 06:41 AM
All4BigGuns QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 5 2013, 12:41 AM) ...... Feb 5 2013, 06:47 AM
Glyph By RAW, you both have to take the necessary steps ... Feb 5 2013, 06:59 AM
All4BigGuns I think the 'be consistent' falls under th... Feb 5 2013, 07:02 AM
toturi Removing the In Debt negative quality requires kar... Feb 5 2013, 07:37 AM
CanRay In Debt can mean to a company (like a bank) or (mo... Feb 5 2013, 07:46 AM
Shortstraw Sorry was using the term a bit loosely to mean sim... Feb 5 2013, 08:09 AM
Tanegar OK, I missed the line about the additional 50%. Feb 5 2013, 09:03 AM
NiL_FisK_Urd I houseruled In Debt and Day Job to be a 0 BP qual... Feb 5 2013, 09:16 AM
Stingray ..personally i would forget taking in-debt-quality... Feb 5 2013, 09:27 AM
Shortstraw Some qualities say you can role play them out othe... Feb 5 2013, 11:14 AM
StealthSigma QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 5 2013, 07:14 AM)... Feb 5 2013, 05:58 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Feb 5 2013, 10:58 A... Feb 5 2013, 06:10 PM
Skarablood Although it may seem logical that some negative qu... Feb 5 2013, 11:46 AM
yesferatu Medicineman, I think it does make sense for things... Feb 5 2013, 02:17 PM
yesferatu The example they use is pretty clear. I'm just... Feb 5 2013, 02:48 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (yesferatu @ Feb 5 2013, 07:48 AM) ... Feb 5 2013, 03:21 PM
Medicineman QUOTE Medicineman, I think it does make sense for ... Feb 5 2013, 04:39 PM
Glyph I will add that NiL_FisK_Urd's house rule (In ... Feb 6 2013, 04:28 AM
toturi To be honest, most Negative Qualities each have wa... Feb 6 2013, 06:17 AM
ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE (yesferatu @ Feb 4 2013, 06:19 PM) ... Feb 6 2013, 06:30 AM
Jaid QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Feb 6 2013, 01... Feb 6 2013, 08:32 AM

toturi QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 6 2013, 04:32 PM) howev... Feb 6 2013, 08:44 AM
StealthSigma QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Feb 6 2013, 02... Feb 6 2013, 01:29 PM

ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Feb 6 2013, 08:29 A... Feb 9 2013, 10:59 AM

Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Feb 9 2013, 03... Feb 9 2013, 03:13 PM

ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 9 2013, 10... Feb 9 2013, 04:03 PM

Lionhearted QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 9 2013, 04... Feb 9 2013, 04:04 PM
_Pax._ QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Feb 6 2013, 01... Feb 6 2013, 03:56 PM
Mercer This is one of those issues I can see both sides o... Feb 6 2013, 08:55 AM
Stingray QUOTE (Mercer @ Feb 6 2013, 10:55 AM) Thi... Feb 6 2013, 09:35 AM
FuelDrop Out of curiosity, how would those who say that a n... Feb 6 2013, 01:17 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Feb 6 2013, 06:17 AM) O... Feb 6 2013, 02:26 PM

Darksong QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 6 2013, 08... Feb 6 2013, 03:29 PM
_Pax._ QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Feb 6 2013, 08:17 AM) O... Feb 6 2013, 03:53 PM
Kiirnodel QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 5 2013, 11:28 PM) I wi... Feb 6 2013, 02:30 PM
Lionhearted If a quality like lost loved one or enemy is resol... Feb 6 2013, 02:46 PM
_Pax._ I think some people get the idea that the mob (or ... Feb 6 2013, 06:39 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 6 2013, 11:39 AM) I t... Feb 6 2013, 08:20 PM
NiL_FisK_Urd They don't even need someone as good as the sh... Feb 6 2013, 07:48 PM
Shortstraw QUOTE (NiL_FisK_Urd @ Feb 7 2013, 05:48 A... Feb 6 2013, 11:51 PM
_Pax._ QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 6 2013, 06:51 PM)... Feb 7 2013, 01:45 AM
Kyrel OK. My 2c on this matter.
1) RAW getting rid of ... Feb 6 2013, 10:01 PM
Jaid QUOTE (Kyrel @ Feb 6 2013, 05:01 PM) OK. ... Feb 7 2013, 05:34 AM
All4BigGuns QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 6 2013, 11:34 PM) ok, l... Feb 7 2013, 05:42 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Feb 6 2013, 10:42 PM... Feb 7 2013, 03:14 PM
Shortstraw Of course not you find out where they are fighting... Feb 7 2013, 02:19 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 6 2013, 07:19 PM)... Feb 7 2013, 03:06 PM
FuelDrop QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 7 2013, 11... Feb 7 2013, 11:03 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Feb 7 2013, 04:03 PM) Y... Feb 7 2013, 11:30 PM
toturi QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 8 2013, 07... Feb 7 2013, 11:36 PM
Achsin The one time that paying off In Debt came up in my... Feb 7 2013, 02:56 AM
Shortstraw Also since when was Shadowrun meant to be fair? Feb 7 2013, 05:53 AM
Glyph QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Feb 6 2013, 05:17 AM) O... Feb 7 2013, 06:02 AM
Medicineman QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 7 2013, 12:53 AM)... Feb 7 2013, 06:04 AM
Medicineman QUOTE Now, you add in a statement at the beginning... Feb 7 2013, 06:02 AM
All4BigGuns QUOTE (Medicineman @ Feb 7 2013, 12:02 AM... Feb 7 2013, 06:21 AM
Jaid QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Feb 7 2013, 01:21 AM... Feb 7 2013, 06:51 AM
All4BigGuns QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 7 2013, 12:51 AM) you s... Feb 7 2013, 07:00 AM
Jaid QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Feb 7 2013, 02:00 AM... Feb 7 2013, 07:58 AM
Glyph Qualities are far from equal already - I don't... Feb 7 2013, 08:42 AM
toturi QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 7 2013, 04:42 PM) Qual... Feb 7 2013, 08:57 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 7 2013, 01:42 AM) Qual... Feb 7 2013, 03:18 PM
_Pax._ In fact, you know what? Thinking about In Debt, I... Feb 7 2013, 04:06 PM
Medicineman My Char NOX (Ork Rigger) has indebt (10.000 ¥ from... Feb 7 2013, 04:40 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Medicineman @ Feb 7 2013, 09:40 AM... Feb 7 2013, 04:54 PM
_Pax._ Which is to say, "it really depends on how sa... Feb 8 2013, 01:22 AM
toturi QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 8 2013, 09:22 AM) Whi... Feb 8 2013, 01:44 AM
_Pax._ QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 7 2013, 08:44 PM) No.... Feb 8 2013, 03:01 AM
toturi QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 8 2013, 11:01 AM) So ... Feb 8 2013, 03:41 AM
_Pax._ QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 7 2013, 10:41 PM) So ... Feb 8 2013, 04:51 AM
toturi QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 8 2013, 12:51 PM) No,... Feb 8 2013, 05:38 AM
_Pax._ QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 8 2013, 12:38 AM) No.... Feb 8 2013, 06:40 AM
Shortstraw QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 8 2013, 04:40 PM) Who... Feb 8 2013, 07:37 AM
toturi QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 8 2013, 02:40 PM) Who... Feb 8 2013, 08:48 AM
Glyph I believe that a syndicate with leverage over a vi... Feb 8 2013, 02:56 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 7 2013, 07:56 PM) I be... Feb 8 2013, 03:00 PM
Medicineman some say Dragons can't be killed, some say Syn... Feb 8 2013, 07:17 AM
Medicineman Who is an Organisation who's Bosses can die ju... Feb 8 2013, 07:43 AM
Darksong we've had organized crime conflicts in our gam... Feb 8 2013, 02:13 PM![]() ![]() |
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