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yesferatu
post Feb 4 2013, 11:19 PM
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Hey guys,

I'm researching some negative qualities and I'm trying to figure out how I'll eventually get rid of them.
I understand how you would buy off an addiction or skill limit or something, what about stuff like debt?

If you took the Debt negative quality and eventually paid it back (in cash) - do you still need to spend the karma to get rid of it?
What about Enemies - if you kill them...do you need to buy the quality off in karma too?
What about like Hung Out to dry? Do you actually need to buy that off - or do you just need to make new contacts?

I couldn't figure out why you'd need to basically pay double to get rid of those.
I'm still not sure.

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- yesferatu   Buying off Negative Qualities   Feb 4 2013, 11:19 PM
- - Lionhearted   Short answer, yes you must always buy it off with ...   Feb 4 2013, 11:29 PM
- - All4BigGuns   QUOTE (yesferatu @ Feb 4 2013, 05:19 PM) ...   Feb 4 2013, 11:29 PM
- - yesferatu   Yup. Sadly, the Core isn't that clear. With de...   Feb 4 2013, 11:48 PM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (yesferatu @ Feb 4 2013, 06:48 PM) ...   Feb 5 2013, 11:14 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (yesferatu @ Feb 4 2013, 04:48 PM) ...   Feb 5 2013, 02:31 PM
- - All4BigGuns   Yeah, I tend to avoid them myself because of how c...   Feb 5 2013, 12:00 AM
- - O'Ryan   This is a tough one! Debt I wouldn't have...   Feb 5 2013, 12:08 AM
- - All4BigGuns   I will admit that I'm leaning toward not makin...   Feb 5 2013, 12:15 AM
- - Mantis   In my games I just have you pay back the karma you...   Feb 5 2013, 01:40 AM
- - Shortstraw   Actually with in debt your debt has 10% compound i...   Feb 5 2013, 05:05 AM
|- - All4BigGuns   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 4 2013, 11:05 PM)...   Feb 5 2013, 05:08 AM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 5 2013, 12:05 AM)...   Feb 5 2013, 06:36 AM
||- - darthmord   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 5 2013, 01:36 AM) Bec...   Feb 6 2013, 01:51 PM
||- - _Pax._   QUOTE (darthmord @ Feb 6 2013, 08:51 AM) ...   Feb 6 2013, 04:00 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 6 2013, 09:00 AM) The...   Feb 6 2013, 06:23 PM
|- - Tanegar   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 5 2013, 12:05 AM)...   Feb 5 2013, 07:48 AM
|- - Stingray   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Feb 5 2013, 09:48 AM) Yo...   Feb 5 2013, 08:43 AM
- - All4BigGuns   Like I said earlier in the thread though, main rea...   Feb 5 2013, 06:39 AM
|- - O'Ryan   QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Feb 4 2013, 10:39 PM...   Feb 5 2013, 11:02 AM
- - _Pax._   ... petulant whiny brat, much? Seriously, that...   Feb 5 2013, 06:41 AM
|- - All4BigGuns   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 5 2013, 12:41 AM) ......   Feb 5 2013, 06:47 AM
- - Glyph   By RAW, you both have to take the necessary steps ...   Feb 5 2013, 06:59 AM
- - All4BigGuns   I think the 'be consistent' falls under th...   Feb 5 2013, 07:02 AM
- - toturi   Removing the In Debt negative quality requires kar...   Feb 5 2013, 07:37 AM
- - CanRay   In Debt can mean to a company (like a bank) or (mo...   Feb 5 2013, 07:46 AM
- - Shortstraw   Sorry was using the term a bit loosely to mean sim...   Feb 5 2013, 08:09 AM
- - Tanegar   OK, I missed the line about the additional 50%.   Feb 5 2013, 09:03 AM
- - NiL_FisK_Urd   I houseruled In Debt and Day Job to be a 0 BP qual...   Feb 5 2013, 09:16 AM
- - Stingray   ..personally i would forget taking in-debt-quality...   Feb 5 2013, 09:27 AM
- - Shortstraw   Some qualities say you can role play them out othe...   Feb 5 2013, 11:14 AM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 5 2013, 07:14 AM)...   Feb 5 2013, 05:58 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Feb 5 2013, 10:58 A...   Feb 5 2013, 06:10 PM
- - Skarablood   Although it may seem logical that some negative qu...   Feb 5 2013, 11:46 AM
- - yesferatu   Medicineman, I think it does make sense for things...   Feb 5 2013, 02:17 PM
- - yesferatu   The example they use is pretty clear. I'm just...   Feb 5 2013, 02:48 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (yesferatu @ Feb 5 2013, 07:48 AM) ...   Feb 5 2013, 03:21 PM
- - Medicineman   QUOTE Medicineman, I think it does make sense for ...   Feb 5 2013, 04:39 PM
- - Glyph   I will add that NiL_FisK_Urd's house rule (In ...   Feb 6 2013, 04:28 AM
- - toturi   To be honest, most Negative Qualities each have wa...   Feb 6 2013, 06:17 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (yesferatu @ Feb 4 2013, 06:19 PM) ...   Feb 6 2013, 06:30 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Feb 6 2013, 01...   Feb 6 2013, 08:32 AM
||- - toturi   QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 6 2013, 04:32 PM) howev...   Feb 6 2013, 08:44 AM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Feb 6 2013, 02...   Feb 6 2013, 01:29 PM
||- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Feb 6 2013, 08:29 A...   Feb 9 2013, 10:59 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Feb 9 2013, 03...   Feb 9 2013, 03:13 PM
||- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 9 2013, 10...   Feb 9 2013, 04:03 PM
||- - Lionhearted   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 9 2013, 04...   Feb 9 2013, 04:04 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Feb 6 2013, 01...   Feb 6 2013, 03:56 PM
- - Mercer   This is one of those issues I can see both sides o...   Feb 6 2013, 08:55 AM
|- - Stingray   QUOTE (Mercer @ Feb 6 2013, 10:55 AM) Thi...   Feb 6 2013, 09:35 AM
- - FuelDrop   Out of curiosity, how would those who say that a n...   Feb 6 2013, 01:17 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Feb 6 2013, 06:17 AM) O...   Feb 6 2013, 02:26 PM
||- - Darksong   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 6 2013, 08...   Feb 6 2013, 03:29 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Feb 6 2013, 08:17 AM) O...   Feb 6 2013, 03:53 PM
- - Kiirnodel   QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 5 2013, 11:28 PM) I wi...   Feb 6 2013, 02:30 PM
- - Lionhearted   If a quality like lost loved one or enemy is resol...   Feb 6 2013, 02:46 PM
- - _Pax._   I think some people get the idea that the mob (or ...   Feb 6 2013, 06:39 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 6 2013, 11:39 AM) I t...   Feb 6 2013, 08:20 PM
- - NiL_FisK_Urd   They don't even need someone as good as the sh...   Feb 6 2013, 07:48 PM
|- - Shortstraw   QUOTE (NiL_FisK_Urd @ Feb 7 2013, 05:48 A...   Feb 6 2013, 11:51 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 6 2013, 06:51 PM)...   Feb 7 2013, 01:45 AM
- - Kyrel   OK. My 2c on this matter. 1) RAW getting rid of ...   Feb 6 2013, 10:01 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Kyrel @ Feb 6 2013, 05:01 PM) OK. ...   Feb 7 2013, 05:34 AM
|- - All4BigGuns   QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 6 2013, 11:34 PM) ok, l...   Feb 7 2013, 05:42 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Feb 6 2013, 10:42 PM...   Feb 7 2013, 03:14 PM
- - Shortstraw   Of course not you find out where they are fighting...   Feb 7 2013, 02:19 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 6 2013, 07:19 PM)...   Feb 7 2013, 03:06 PM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 7 2013, 11...   Feb 7 2013, 11:03 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Feb 7 2013, 04:03 PM) Y...   Feb 7 2013, 11:30 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 8 2013, 07...   Feb 7 2013, 11:36 PM
- - Achsin   The one time that paying off In Debt came up in my...   Feb 7 2013, 02:56 AM
- - Shortstraw   Also since when was Shadowrun meant to be fair?   Feb 7 2013, 05:53 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Feb 6 2013, 05:17 AM) O...   Feb 7 2013, 06:02 AM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Feb 7 2013, 12:53 AM)...   Feb 7 2013, 06:04 AM
- - Medicineman   QUOTE Now, you add in a statement at the beginning...   Feb 7 2013, 06:02 AM
|- - All4BigGuns   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Feb 7 2013, 12:02 AM...   Feb 7 2013, 06:21 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Feb 7 2013, 01:21 AM...   Feb 7 2013, 06:51 AM
|- - All4BigGuns   QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 7 2013, 12:51 AM) you s...   Feb 7 2013, 07:00 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Feb 7 2013, 02:00 AM...   Feb 7 2013, 07:58 AM
- - Glyph   Qualities are far from equal already - I don't...   Feb 7 2013, 08:42 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 7 2013, 04:42 PM) Qual...   Feb 7 2013, 08:57 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 7 2013, 01:42 AM) Qual...   Feb 7 2013, 03:18 PM
- - _Pax._   In fact, you know what? Thinking about In Debt, I...   Feb 7 2013, 04:06 PM
- - Medicineman   My Char NOX (Ork Rigger) has indebt (10.000 ¥ from...   Feb 7 2013, 04:40 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Feb 7 2013, 09:40 AM...   Feb 7 2013, 04:54 PM
- - _Pax._   Which is to say, "it really depends on how sa...   Feb 8 2013, 01:22 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 8 2013, 09:22 AM) Whi...   Feb 8 2013, 01:44 AM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 7 2013, 08:44 PM) No....   Feb 8 2013, 03:01 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 8 2013, 11:01 AM) So ...   Feb 8 2013, 03:41 AM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 7 2013, 10:41 PM) So ...   Feb 8 2013, 04:51 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 8 2013, 12:51 PM) No,...   Feb 8 2013, 05:38 AM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 8 2013, 12:38 AM) No....   Feb 8 2013, 06:40 AM
|- - Shortstraw   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 8 2013, 04:40 PM) Who...   Feb 8 2013, 07:37 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 8 2013, 02:40 PM) Who...   Feb 8 2013, 08:48 AM
- - Glyph   I believe that a syndicate with leverage over a vi...   Feb 8 2013, 02:56 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 7 2013, 07:56 PM) I be...   Feb 8 2013, 03:00 PM
- - Medicineman   some say Dragons can't be killed, some say Syn...   Feb 8 2013, 07:17 AM
- - Medicineman   Who is an Organisation who's Bosses can die ju...   Feb 8 2013, 07:43 AM
- - Darksong   we've had organized crime conflicts in our gam...   Feb 8 2013, 02:13 PM
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