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Umidori
post Feb 6 2013, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE ("RC @ p. 112")
Granite Shell (15 BP): The character’s skin contains massive calcite inclusions that make it appear grayish and hard as rock. Treat Granite Shell as 3/3 armor that counts as Hardened Armor (p. 288, SR4). This quality is not compatible with any worn armor and counts for Armor and Encumbrance (p. 161*, SR4A*).

QUOTE ("SR4A @ p. 327")
Helmets and shields do not count as separate pieces of armor; instead, they modify the rating of worn armor by their rating (Armor and Encumbrance, p. 161).

QUOTE ("SR4A. p. 161)
Armor and Encumbrance

If a character is wearing more than one piece of armor at a time, only the highest value (for either Ballistic or Impact) applies. Note that some armor items, like helmets and shields, provide a modifier to the worn armor rating and so do not count as stacked armor.

Too much armor, however, can slow a character down. If either of a character’s armor ratings exceeds his Body x 2, apply a –1 modifier to Agility and Reaction for every 2 points (or fraction thereof ) that his Body x 2 is exceeded. Note that this may affect Initiative as well. If a character is wearing multiple armor items, add their ratings together before comparing to Body.

So Granite Shell gives you 3/3 Hardened Armor, and it counts as worn armor, per the Armor and Encumbrance rules.

Helmets and shields do not count as worn armor, but modify the rating of worn armor, which Granite Shell counts as. By RAW, it seems that having the Granite Shell quality, carrying a Ballistic Shield, and wearing any of the +2/+2 helmet varieties would give you a modified Hardened Armor of 11/9.

Not sure if intended... but I'm having a hard time arguing against it based purely on RAW.

~Umi
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- Umidori   Granite Shell + Shields   Feb 6 2013, 09:54 PM
- - VykosDarkSoul   ........ew   Feb 6 2013, 09:56 PM
- - Umidori   Let's take it further. Dual-wield ballistic sh...   Feb 6 2013, 10:01 PM
- - Smirnov   You can take Shiva Arms twice to have six shields....   Feb 6 2013, 10:18 PM
- - Lionhearted   To be fair... A big hulking guy with rock skin and...   Feb 6 2013, 10:25 PM
- - Umidori   You'd need a Body of 15 to avoid encumbrance, ...   Feb 6 2013, 10:38 PM
- - BishopMcQ   Only the 3 points would count as Hardened. I als...   Feb 6 2013, 10:48 PM
|- - Smirnov   Never mind, should have read all the answers befor...   Feb 7 2013, 01:24 AM
- - Umidori   If you have Hardened Armor, the question becomes c...   Feb 6 2013, 11:25 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Umidori @ Feb 6 2013, 04:25 PM) Ca...   Feb 6 2013, 11:48 PM
- - Tanegar   I cannot believe that this was intended. My rulin...   Feb 7 2013, 12:09 AM
- - Umidori   Whether if was intended? Who can say. Whether it...   Feb 7 2013, 12:11 AM
|- - Tanegar   QUOTE (Umidori @ Feb 6 2013, 07:11 PM) Wh...   Feb 7 2013, 12:42 AM
- - BishopMcQ   Umi-- My reading of the Hardened Armor Power (RW ...   Feb 7 2013, 12:34 AM
- - Umidori   Unless your skin is rock hard and inflexible. If y...   Feb 7 2013, 12:54 AM
- - Tanegar   It can't be inflexible at the joints, otherwis...   Feb 7 2013, 03:37 AM
- - Umidori   I think the lesson we can all take away from this ...   Feb 7 2013, 04:03 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Umidori @ Feb 7 2013, 12:03 PM) I ...   Feb 7 2013, 09:31 AM
- - Tanegar   On this point, we agree.   Feb 7 2013, 05:03 AM
- - Blade   I guess none of the freelancer is a lawyer, and/or...   Feb 7 2013, 09:43 AM
- - Draco18s   Granite Shell + Shield should not make more armor,...   Feb 7 2013, 12:51 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 7 2013, 05:51 AM) G...   Feb 7 2013, 03:46 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 7 2013, 10...   Feb 7 2013, 03:57 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 7 2013, 08:57 AM) A...   Feb 7 2013, 04:08 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 7 2013, 11...   Feb 7 2013, 04:39 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 7 2013, 09:39 AM) R...   Feb 7 2013, 04:57 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 7 2013, 11...   Feb 7 2013, 05:53 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 7 2013, 10:53 AM) A...   Feb 7 2013, 07:33 PM
- - Stahlseele   still makes it all but useless. under SR3 rules yo...   Feb 7 2013, 03:48 PM
- - Stingray   ..and to make situation even worse, adding 3/3 gra...   Feb 7 2013, 07:49 PM
|- - Lionhearted   QUOTE (Stingray @ Feb 7 2013, 08:49 PM) ....   Feb 7 2013, 08:22 PM
- - thorya   I think he meant you don't roll to soak damage...   Feb 7 2013, 07:51 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (thorya @ Feb 7 2013, 02:51 PM) I t...   Feb 7 2013, 08:57 PM
- - Umidori   The various Dermal Alterations leave a lot to be d...   Feb 7 2013, 08:58 PM
- - Lionhearted   Well... SURGE is (super)natural selection kind of....   Feb 7 2013, 09:10 PM
- - Umidori   There are no Obsidimen because of the Earthdawn ri...   Feb 8 2013, 12:10 AM
- - Halinn   A thought on how to make granite skin more useful:...   Feb 8 2013, 12:49 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Halinn @ Feb 7 2013, 07:49 PM) A t...   Feb 8 2013, 01:23 AM
- - Stahlseele   So . . more or less back to how SR3 did hardened a...   Feb 8 2013, 08:44 AM
- - Tanegar   It has things to recommend it. Simplicity, for on...   Feb 8 2013, 09:33 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Feb 8 2013, 04:33 AM) No...   Feb 8 2013, 12:45 PM
- - Mikado   Can you combine Granite Skin with being a Drake fo...   Feb 8 2013, 05:40 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Mikado @ Feb 8 2013, 12:40 PM) Can...   Feb 8 2013, 06:58 PM
- - Stahlseele   I think the mostly accepted version is this: Add A...   Feb 8 2013, 08:08 PM
|- - Halinn   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Feb 8 2013, 09:08 PM)...   Feb 8 2013, 11:32 PM
- - Stahlseele   probably. i ain't that firm in sr4   Feb 9 2013, 12:22 AM
- - Umidori   That'd be a better way to handle it, in my min...   Feb 9 2013, 12:29 AM


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