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 Apr 25 2004, 10:07 PM
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Ok Being a Cylcops gives you +2Tn's to range attacks due lack of depth perception.
Ghouls being dual natured and blind (+6 Tn's for solely physical based sight) have Astral Peception. Which being a "Psychic" Sense doesn't require eyes.... Thus a Ghoul Cyclops shouldn't get the +2Tn's for range combat Vs a living target cos they can use Astral Perception to "See" the target. Right or Wrong? |
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Shockwave_IIc Cyclops and ghouls.. Apr 25 2004, 10:07 PM
BitBasher At least in my opinion, wrong. The Ghoul Cyclops s... Apr 25 2004, 10:16 PM Kakkaraun Right, I'd say. Astral is /purely psychic/. ... Apr 25 2004, 10:34 PM mfb yeah. it's kinda crazy to say that astral perc... Apr 25 2004, 10:56 PM Dissonance Performing physical actions while using astral per... Apr 25 2004, 10:56 PM Backgammon Exactly. They don't get the +2 for having only... Apr 25 2004, 11:00 PM Herald of Verjigorm The +2 is for "purely mundane tasks" and... Apr 25 2004, 11:05 PM Kakkaraun You'd think that...unless you were aware of th... Apr 25 2004, 11:06 PM Ancient History QUOTE By canon though theres IIRC no guarantee the... Apr 25 2004, 11:19 PM Shockwave_IIc But all living things have auras no? thus when at... Apr 25 2004, 11:33 PM Kakkaraun You're confused. This is how it works.
When ... Apr 25 2004, 11:40 PM Shockwave_IIc So my Ghoul hunting Ghoul Cyclops with autoshotgun... Apr 26 2004, 12:44 AM A Clockwork Lime The bit you're missing from what Ancient is sa... Apr 26 2004, 12:52 AM TheScamp Ask your GM. Apr 26 2004, 12:54 AM Kakkaraun Lime--how can you have a physical-sight modifier i... Apr 26 2004, 01:14 AM A Clockwork Lime I'm not saying it's my opinion, it just lo... Apr 26 2004, 01:16 AM Shockwave_IIc QUOTE (TheScamp) Ask your GM.
I meant rules wi... Apr 26 2004, 02:10 AM Kakkaraun No.
But if your character were a cyclops mage or ... Apr 26 2004, 02:27 AM BitBasher technically by the rules it says you get a +2 to a... Apr 26 2004, 02:31 AM Kakkaraun That would contradict other rules, though. In ter... Apr 26 2004, 02:55 AM A Clockwork Lime What rule does that contradict? Dual-natured bein... Apr 26 2004, 02:57 AM Kakkaraun The rules say that astral sight is wholly psychic ... Apr 26 2004, 03:00 AM BitBasher Are you still planning on making a ranged combat t... Apr 26 2004, 03:05 AM TheScamp QUOTE The rules say that astral sight is wholly ps... Apr 26 2004, 03:06 AM BitBasher QUOTE The rules say that astral sight is wholly ps... Apr 26 2004, 03:08 AM Kakkaraun QUOTE (TheScamp) QUOTE The rules say that astral s... Apr 26 2004, 03:21 AM A Clockwork Lime Apparently you're missing out on the "dua... Apr 26 2004, 03:25 AM Kakkaraun Nope. Ghouls are blind, they only have ONE sense.... Apr 26 2004, 03:38 AM A Clockwork Lime Actually, does the SRComp ever state that Ghouls d... Apr 26 2004, 03:40 AM Kakkaraun Nowhere in Critters or SRComp does it say anything... Apr 26 2004, 03:45 AM A Clockwork Lime Okay, here's some actual rules quotes.
QUOTE ... Apr 26 2004, 03:54 AM Kakkaraun So, penalties from having flaws in seeing with you... Apr 26 2004, 04:58 AM A Clockwork Lime Who said it was necessarily due to their eyes? Co... Apr 26 2004, 05:09 AM BitBasher QUOTE So, penalties from having flaws in seeing wi... Apr 26 2004, 05:10 AM Kakkaraun Lime, you can't seem to get it through your sk... Apr 26 2004, 05:21 AM A Clockwork Lime And you can't get it through yours that 1) you... Apr 26 2004, 05:23 AM Kakkaraun I would. Except for the fact that APing character... Apr 26 2004, 05:33 AM mfb no, they don't. astrally perceiving characters... Apr 26 2004, 05:38 AM Kakkaraun Well, I do have my books on me. And they prove I... Apr 26 2004, 05:38 AM A Clockwork Lime Uhm, no. That's where you're wrong again.... Apr 26 2004, 05:38 AM A Clockwork Lime I see nothing on page 83 of Magic in the Shadows t... Apr 26 2004, 05:41 AM Kakkaraun /me sighs.
Here ya go:
"If a character is s... Apr 26 2004, 05:45 AM A Clockwork Lime No one said that the colors of physical objects we... Apr 26 2004, 05:50 AM Paul She's my one eyed, one eyed, one eyed, she... Apr 26 2004, 07:32 AM mfb i'm right. SR3, page 171, second paraph under ... Apr 26 2004, 08:45 AM Moon-Hawk Huh, I guess I've been doing that wrong. I wo... Apr 26 2004, 12:58 PM toturi Consider this a reading from the Book of Canon:
Q... Apr 26 2004, 01:19 PM Shockwave_IIc *Looks in to Can* Where have all the worms gone?... Apr 26 2004, 02:42 PM Kakkaraun Toturi-yes, you got it.
Shockwave-it doesn't ... Apr 26 2004, 02:58 PM A Clockwork Lime Toturi, yes, you do indeed have it. A blind ghoul... Apr 26 2004, 03:10 PM Kakkaraun Critters, PANA, Companion: Read them. Nowhere do... Apr 26 2004, 03:21 PM A Clockwork Lime I did read Critters. Even quoted it. Quoted the ... Apr 26 2004, 03:42 PM A Clockwork Lime The only thing I can see that is even remotely con... Apr 26 2004, 03:59 PM Kakkaraun Okay. Once again, what you seem to have trouble w... Apr 26 2004, 04:02 PM A Clockwork Lime No, you're the one who can't comprehend th... Apr 26 2004, 04:03 PM Shockwave_IIc QUOTE Now, for the cyclops mod...in the text it sa... Apr 26 2004, 04:03 PM A Clockwork Lime Agreed, like I said, it's stupid. I wouldn... Apr 26 2004, 04:05 PM Shockwave_IIc I agree with that on soley physical actions.
I mi... Apr 26 2004, 04:10 PM CoalHeart A question regarding all of this talk about blindn... Apr 26 2004, 04:16 PM A Clockwork Lime Yeah, but the thing that sucks is that the penalty... Apr 26 2004, 04:17 PM Kakkaraun If it's a mind-thing, you can't interpret ... Apr 26 2004, 04:18 PM Shockwave_IIc QUOTE (A Clockwork Lime) You can always snag the B... Apr 26 2004, 04:22 PM A Clockwork Lime If I were you, I'd consider going with Ambidex... Apr 26 2004, 04:26 PM Shockwave_IIc Doesn't work in the concept. Apr 26 2004, 04:28 PM Rev That cyclops +2 to ranged combat because they have... Apr 26 2004, 04:53 PM Kakkaraun [/B]Just to bring this to closure, since the guy w... May 1 2004, 01:51 AM A Clockwork Lime Wow! However did you find that quote, which h... May 1 2004, 01:54 AM toturi QUOTE Blind
Such characters receive a +2 target m... May 1 2004, 02:27 AM Kakkaraun It's A. But...hey, how do you submit a questi... May 1 2004, 02:31 AM I Eat Time I play a Ghoul, here's my take.
The +2 Modifi... May 1 2004, 04:32 AM Capt. Dave QUOTE (Kakkaraun) It's A. But...hey, how do y... May 1 2004, 06:01 AM Shockwave_IIc QUOTE (I Eat Time @ May 1 2004, 04:32 AM) I d... May 1 2004, 01:50 PM toturi QUOTE (I Eat Time) I do have another question. Do ... May 1 2004, 02:10 PM
Snow_Fox Oddly enough I think the ghoul would have all of t... May 1 2004, 03:09 PM  |
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