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Nerbert
post Apr 26 2004, 05:48 AM
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My first in depth experience with roleplaying was joining a D&D campaign about halfway through, right about the time the character were coming into easily available resurrection spells. Soon after that I convinced them to try shadowrun and few things became immediately apparent.

Firstly, in Shadowrun when you die, you're dead forever. This is an interesting dynamic, not only for the players, who now have an actual reason to run away instead of illogically fighting to the death with every creature they encounter, but also because the players invariably end up killing a large number of NPCs, which is clearly a morally questionable act with its own set of philosophical quandaries.

Secondly, without the alignment system of D&D in place, there's nothing to stop characters from "misbehaving". This is simultaneously a good thing and a bad thing. Its predominantly good in that it allows players to diverge from a prescribed archetype without penalty, its basically just more fun to be able to have your evil days. The downside to this is that its much harder to predict how characters are going to react to a given situation. In a morally ambiguous situation its truly difficult to predict where your story is going to go.

I was just wondering, how do people in your games handle this kind of thing?
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- Nerbert   Game Morality   Apr 26 2004, 05:48 AM
- - Digital Heroin   Most of my players in the past have been either ir...   Apr 26 2004, 05:50 AM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   QUOTE (Nerbert)Secondly, without the alignment sys...   Apr 26 2004, 05:57 AM
- - Crusher Bob   Remember that there are no 'all knowing' f...   Apr 26 2004, 06:11 AM
- - Kagetenshi   I handle morality by using the four-round uncompen...   Apr 26 2004, 06:57 AM
- - Crusher Bob   I trump your MMG with a dose of narcojet and an or...   Apr 26 2004, 07:12 AM
- - shadd4d   Actually, Shadowrun, depending on the GM, does a w...   Apr 26 2004, 07:22 AM
- - Paul   I like the lack of constraint that not having alig...   Apr 26 2004, 07:23 AM
- - blakkie   I'll assume you are talking 3e D&D. Some o...   Apr 26 2004, 09:49 AM
- - Voran   I tend to play more conservatively in SR than in D...   Apr 26 2004, 11:10 AM
- - Abstruse   In Shadowrun, there are a LOT more shades of grey....   Apr 26 2004, 11:55 AM
- - mfb   depends on the job. my main character, his job is ...   Apr 26 2004, 12:23 PM
- - Abstruse   I'm not saying a shadowrunner who kills someon...   Apr 26 2004, 01:17 PM
- - toturi   A professional shadowrunner has only 1 ethic: the ...   Apr 26 2004, 01:28 PM
- - mfb   it depends on your situation, and the people you d...   Apr 26 2004, 01:45 PM
- - Voran   Things get especially more murky in SR, because ...   Apr 26 2004, 01:49 PM
- - sidartha   If you want to see a true shadowrun movie go out a...   Apr 26 2004, 01:56 PM
- - blakkie   Hey! True Lies is soooo Shadowrun, at least ho...   Apr 26 2004, 02:04 PM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (toturi)A professional shadowrunner has only...   Apr 26 2004, 02:28 PM
- - kevyn668   QUOTE TinkerGnome Posted on Apr 26 2004, 02:28 PM ...   Apr 26 2004, 02:49 PM
- - Voran   QUOTE (TinkerGnome) I don't do wetwork." ...   Apr 26 2004, 02:59 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Crusher Bob) I trump your MMG with a dose o...   Apr 26 2004, 04:29 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE Things get especially more murky in SR, beca...   Apr 26 2004, 04:59 PM
- - RangerJoe   Obviously, every player and every SR character has...   Apr 26 2004, 05:11 PM
- - draco aardvark   I just had this discussion on a D&D forum. We ...   Apr 26 2004, 05:28 PM
- - sidartha   QUOTE Really? That must be a fairly highlevel camp...   Apr 26 2004, 06:44 PM
- - Cray74   Well...everyone's already made my answers for ...   Apr 26 2004, 07:15 PM
- - Smiley   2 things: "Good" and "evil" a...   Apr 26 2004, 07:23 PM
- - Aidley   Re the D&D alignment thing. Most of the people...   Apr 26 2004, 07:43 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   QUOTE (Smiley) PC: A security guard? I take out ...   Apr 26 2004, 07:54 PM
- - Smiley   By no means am I saying that runners should execut...   Apr 26 2004, 08:23 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (sidartha @ Apr 26 2004, 06:44 PM) It i...   Apr 26 2004, 08:25 PM
- - sidartha   QUOTE (blakkie) Custom spell, ya that'd make a...   Apr 27 2004, 12:36 AM
- - Abstruse   I know it was 15 posts back, but I just wanted to ...   Apr 27 2004, 09:48 AM
- - shadd4d   Awakenings (if we're naming books). There...   Apr 27 2004, 10:53 AM
- - toturi   Kill them and not let them see/catch/detect you.   Apr 27 2004, 11:13 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   The point is, you suddenly have to be a lot more c...   Apr 27 2004, 11:16 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) The point is, you sudd...   Apr 27 2004, 11:23 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   Industrial espionage? Breaking & entering? Hec...   Apr 27 2004, 11:26 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Industrial espionage? ...   Apr 27 2004, 11:32 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (toturi)What has my attitude has got to do w...   Apr 27 2004, 11:47 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) QUOTE (toturi)What has...   Apr 27 2004, 12:42 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   When you put it nicely like that, we are in comple...   Apr 27 2004, 01:25 PM
- - Abstruse   Consequences for your actions. That's the che...   Apr 27 2004, 01:40 PM
- - shadd4d   Amen. The document in Corp. Download is also none ...   Apr 27 2004, 03:23 PM
- - Erebus   Gel Rounds!!!! Never kill unless y...   Apr 27 2004, 08:02 PM
- - Talia Invierno   The "never kill unless you have to" cove...   Apr 27 2004, 10:17 PM
- - mfb   heh, i like gel rounds, especially against hardene...   Apr 28 2004, 12:44 AM
- - Kagetenshi   *Applause* ~J   Apr 28 2004, 12:55 AM
- - Arethusa   I'd really like to point out that gel rounds s...   Apr 28 2004, 02:41 AM
- - Smiley   QUOTE (Talia Invierno @ Apr 27 2004, 05:17 PM...   Apr 28 2004, 03:11 AM
- - sidartha   QUOTE (Smiley @ Apr 27 2004, 10:11 PM) The wa...   Apr 28 2004, 04:47 AM


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