Aug 5 2013, 06:56 AM
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I rarely have a toon that utilises SMGs. In every edition they just seem like inferior assault rifles.
What I have always found frustrating is that in every edition (and it seems in 5th Ed as well, but hopefully I've just missed it) the writers tend to do a bad job at defining all the little nuances for all the classes of weapons. For instance. How many hands does a pistol use? One right? How do we know? Probably some fluff text somewhere or we’re assuming they work the same as real life. SMGs seem to sit in this void between everything. Bigger than a pistol, smaller than a rifle. What’s it for? Can I use it one-handed? Then why use a pistol, is there a penalty, is the pistol more concealable? Are they easier to use indoors than Rifles? This would make sense, but how does this work mechanically? Some of this stuff is explained in the SMG description some of it isn’t, bits and pieces are probably sprinkled through the skills and other sections. To me the weapons chapter needs a stat block for what weapons types share. Eg: SMG Skill: Automatics Hands required: 2 (Can be fired in one at -2, -1 accuracy) Concealability: -2 dice to palming check Attachments allowed: Barrel, top, stock Whatever else I’m forgetting. So far all I can see SMGs being good for is for versatility why being a combat biker. Pretty niche weapon though……. |
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Smash Submachine guns Aug 5 2013, 06:56 AM
tasti man LH The big thing I always viewed with SMGs was that i... Aug 5 2013, 07:08 AM
FuelDrop QUOTE (Smash @ Aug 5 2013, 02:56 PM) I ra... Aug 5 2013, 07:16 AM
Lynchmob If you wanted to make them more useful you could e... Aug 5 2013, 07:17 AM
phlapjack77 QUOTE (Smash @ Aug 5 2013, 02:56 PM) To m... Aug 5 2013, 07:34 AM
Ixal QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Aug 5 2013, 08:34 AM... Aug 5 2013, 07:41 AM
cryptoknight QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Aug 5 2013, 01:34 AM... Aug 5 2013, 04:30 PM
Voran Basically the same reason you use SMGs in the real... Aug 5 2013, 07:41 AM
Jaid vs machine pistols:
- range
- damage
- accuracy
- ... Aug 5 2013, 08:54 AM
RHat Generally, any Automatics-using character should h... Aug 5 2013, 09:01 AM
Umidori SMGs are the largest one-handed firearms, or at le... Aug 5 2013, 09:11 AM
RHat Well, a FOO option isn't the BEST option to be... Aug 5 2013, 09:22 AM
Umidori True, but I definitely feel that Assault Rifles ha... Aug 5 2013, 09:30 AM
cryptoknight QUOTE (Umidori @ Aug 5 2013, 03:30 AM) Tr... Aug 5 2013, 04:35 PM
RHat Yeah, AR's are a bit like that - perhaps the A... Aug 5 2013, 09:36 AM
Umidori To be honest, I'd consider the Warhawk a +2 co... Aug 5 2013, 09:57 AM
RHat Layout wise, it wouldn't even be that hard to ... Aug 5 2013, 10:00 AM
Wakshaani QUOTE (Smash @ Aug 5 2013, 01:56 AM) I ra... Aug 5 2013, 01:29 PM
nezumi I've used SMGs as the Jack-of-All-Trades. Conc... Aug 5 2013, 02:03 PM
ShadowDragon8685 A submachinegun is a good choice when you need som... Aug 5 2013, 02:11 PM
Shortstraw Take an M-4A1 Carbine (GH21)- damage of an AR, con... Aug 5 2013, 02:41 PM
Mäx You can Dualwield almost anything. Aug 5 2013, 04:23 PM
X-Kalibur QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 5 2013, 09:23 AM) You ca... Aug 5 2013, 04:55 PM
ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 5 2013, 12:23 PM) You ca... Aug 5 2013, 05:31 PM
Sendaz But can he dualwield fire and run? Aug 5 2013, 04:25 PM
Mäx QUOTE (Sendaz @ Aug 5 2013, 07:25 PM) But... Aug 5 2013, 04:31 PM
cryptoknight QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 5 2013, 10:31 AM) Backwa... Aug 5 2013, 04:44 PM
Skynet QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 5 2013, 06:31 PM) (...)
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Mäx QUOTE (Skynet @ Aug 5 2013, 07:46 PM) The... Aug 5 2013, 08:15 PM
Ixal QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 5 2013, 09:15 PM) So tha... Aug 5 2013, 08:23 PM
Sendaz I have seen Maschinenpistole used but that may jus... Aug 5 2013, 04:37 PM
Elfenlied Machinenpistole is correct. Aug 5 2013, 04:40 PM
Shinxy The funny thing is, IRL the same criticisms of SMG... Aug 5 2013, 05:56 PM
TheOneRonin QUOTE (Shinxy @ Aug 5 2013, 12:56 PM) The... Aug 6 2013, 01:08 AM
Epicedion The factors are really cost, portability/concealab... Aug 6 2013, 03:52 AM
Voran Likewise some of the 'less dmg' aspects of... Aug 6 2013, 08:34 AM
Umidori QUOTE (Voran @ Aug 6 2013, 01:34 AM) And ... Aug 6 2013, 09:14 AM
Sendaz I know the SOP is use a tag eraser for the RFID, b... Aug 6 2013, 09:34 AM
Umidori Well, according to 4E...
QUOTE ("SR4A ... Aug 6 2013, 09:43 AM
RHat QUOTE (Umidori @ Aug 6 2013, 02:43 AM) Ru... Aug 6 2013, 09:56 AM
Umidori Point. I suppose if you set the RFID to constantly... Aug 6 2013, 10:10 AM
RHat Right up until you look at the players (who failed... Aug 6 2013, 10:25 AM
Voran If you're waltzing through a static checkpoint... Aug 6 2013, 10:34 AM![]() ![]() |
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