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post Jan 26 2014, 04:48 PM
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Ok, i think most of you already know that i hate SR5 and i don´t want to start another flaming- and ranting-thread. But i am not absolutely sure if i understood the rules correctly and at least i am asking for advice before i hate SR5 even more. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Acc. to the object resistance table, computers, drones and similar high-technological equipment have an object rating of 15+. Does this mean, that even an absolutely maxed out mage (character creation-wise), would only barely be able to affect a drone? My character now has Spellcasting 6, a specialization for manipulation spells (+2) and a magic rating of 7. Means, that i roll 15 dice...which is equal to a common drone!!! If this i correct, can i assume that you need immortal elves or dragons to do the following jobs?:

a) checking out for drones with the (upcoming) version of the detect [object] spell?
b) levitating of a comlink or computer?
c) sneaking by a drone, with an improved invisibility spell?
d) detroying a drone with an energy-bolt-spell?
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- Machiavelli   Object resistance in SR5 - seriously?   Jan 26 2014, 04:48 PM
- - Mantis   Yeah that is exactly what it means. However all th...   Jan 26 2014, 06:33 PM
- - Machiavelli   *High-Five for not liking SR 5 from continent to c...   Jan 26 2014, 07:09 PM
- - Bigity   Ugh, that seems way way off.   Jan 26 2014, 08:33 PM
- - BishopMcQ   Which part Bigity? The Object Resistance is corre...   Jan 27 2014, 12:21 AM
- - FuelDrop   Also, it's not like mages have no options when...   Jan 27 2014, 12:53 AM
- - Bigity   I went back and re-read. I was reacting to the id...   Jan 27 2014, 03:02 AM
- - Epicedion   There's also a little bit of "you're ...   Jan 27 2014, 05:50 AM
- - Smash   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 27 2014, 03:48 A...   Jan 27 2014, 06:14 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Smash @ Jan 27 2014, 01:14 AM) Don...   Jan 27 2014, 03:31 PM
|- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (Smash @ Jan 27 2014, 07:14 AM) Wel...   Jan 28 2014, 08:59 PM
|- - Jack VII   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 28 2014, 02:59 P...   Jan 28 2014, 09:04 PM
||- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (Jack VII @ Jan 28 2014, 10:04 PM) ...   Jan 28 2014, 09:09 PM
||- - Jack VII   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 28 2014, 03:09 P...   Jan 28 2014, 09:11 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 28 2014, 01:59 P...   Jan 28 2014, 10:42 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 29 2014, 07:59 A...   Jan 29 2014, 03:04 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Smash @ Jan 28 2014, 08:04 PM) I...   Jan 29 2014, 02:58 PM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 29 2014, 09...   Jan 29 2014, 04:31 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Sponge @ Jan 29 2014, 09:31 AM) I ...   Jan 29 2014, 04:55 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 29 2014, 11...   Jan 29 2014, 05:22 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 29 2014, 10:22 AM) ...   Jan 30 2014, 01:30 AM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 29 2014, 11...   Jan 29 2014, 05:58 PM
||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Sponge @ Jan 29 2014, 12:58 PM) Th...   Jan 29 2014, 06:05 PM
|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jan 29 2014, 11...   Jan 30 2014, 01:36 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Sponge @ Jan 29 2014, 10:58 AM) Th...   Jan 30 2014, 01:34 AM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 29 2014, 06...   Jan 30 2014, 03:19 AM
||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 29 2014, 11:19 PM) Coul...   Jan 30 2014, 05:29 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 29 2014, 08:19 PM) Coul...   Jan 30 2014, 06:26 PM
|- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 29 2014, 05...   Jan 29 2014, 06:37 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 29 2014, 11:37 A...   Jan 29 2014, 09:00 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 29 2014, 10:00 PM) Many...   Jan 29 2014, 09:38 PM
- - BishopMcQ   Draco -- The general benefit of Wreck was the lowe...   Jan 27 2014, 03:51 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (BishopMcQ @ Jan 27 2014, 10:51 AM)...   Jan 27 2014, 05:18 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 29 2014, 08...   Jan 30 2014, 02:17 AM
- - Machiavelli   My english seems to be too bad for this conversati...   Jan 28 2014, 05:44 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 28 2014, 10:44 A...   Jan 28 2014, 05:58 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 28 2014, 12...   Jan 28 2014, 07:51 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 28 2014, 12:51 PM) ...   Jan 28 2014, 08:38 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 28 2014, 03...   Jan 28 2014, 08:48 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 28 2014, 12...   Jan 29 2014, 02:58 AM
- - Machiavelli   I see your point, but the wording is quite weak.   Jan 28 2014, 09:20 PM
|- - Epicedion   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 28 2014, 04:20 P...   Jan 28 2014, 09:28 PM
- - Machiavelli   Right, but you can also read it as "transform...   Jan 28 2014, 09:31 PM
|- - Epicedion   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 28 2014, 04:31 P...   Jan 28 2014, 09:36 PM
|- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jan 28 2014, 10:36 PM)...   Jan 28 2014, 09:41 PM
- - Sponge   It's also worth noting that neither Magic Fing...   Jan 28 2014, 09:50 PM
- - Machiavelli   Really, i don´t have a problem with casting spells...   Jan 29 2014, 08:36 AM
- - RHat   So, where do you figure the success rate should si...   Jan 29 2014, 08:46 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 29 2014, 04:46 PM) So, ...   Jan 29 2014, 08:48 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Jan 29 2014, 03:48 AM) ...   Jan 29 2014, 02:12 PM
- - Epicedion   Technomancers should be able to do some Mage-y stu...   Jan 29 2014, 02:33 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   Depends on if the mage is supposed to have an easy...   Jan 29 2014, 05:42 PM
- - Stahlseele   an opposed roll is much more hit and miss because ...   Jan 29 2014, 05:42 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 29 2014, 12:42 PM...   Jan 29 2014, 05:46 PM
||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 29 2014, 12:46 PM) ...   Jan 29 2014, 05:57 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jan 29 2014, 12...   Jan 29 2014, 07:02 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 29 2014, 12:42 PM...   Jan 29 2014, 05:54 PM
- - Sendaz   That's why we are working on the Bypass Object...   Jan 29 2014, 08:00 PM
- - The Overlord   While it does seem stacked against casters there a...   Jan 29 2014, 11:05 PM
- - Smash   Wait wait wait..... Are people taking OR to be a ...   Jan 29 2014, 11:24 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Smash @ Jan 29 2014, 04:24 PM) If ...   Jan 30 2014, 01:40 AM
- - RHat   I'd say that's higher than the Average Mag...   Jan 30 2014, 06:01 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 30 2014, 01:01 AM) It...   Jan 30 2014, 02:42 PM
||- - Sponge   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 30 2014, 09:42 AM) ...   Jan 30 2014, 04:27 PM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 30 2014, 07:42 AM) ...   Jan 30 2014, 09:26 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 30 2014, 02:26 PM) As a...   Jan 30 2014, 10:06 PM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 30 2014, 03...   Jan 30 2014, 10:11 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 30 2014, 03:11 PM) To b...   Jan 30 2014, 10:25 PM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 30 2014, 03...   Jan 30 2014, 11:53 PM
|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 30 2014, 04:53 PM) And ...   Jan 31 2014, 02:18 AM
|||- - RHat   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 30 2014, 07...   Jan 31 2014, 04:51 AM
|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 30 2014, 09:51 PM) ... ...   Jan 31 2014, 03:07 PM
|||- - RHat   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 31 2014, 08...   Jan 31 2014, 10:15 PM
|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 31 2014, 03:15 PM) You ...   Jan 31 2014, 10:20 PM
|||- - RHat   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 31 2014, 03...   Jan 31 2014, 10:23 PM
|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 31 2014, 03:23 PM) Smal...   Jan 31 2014, 10:26 PM
|||- - RHat   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 31 2014, 03...   Jan 31 2014, 10:28 PM
||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 30 2014, 05...   Jan 31 2014, 03:24 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 29 2014, 11:01 PM) And ...   Jan 30 2014, 06:28 PM
- - Machiavelli   Correct. I think with the publishing of SR5, two c...   Jan 31 2014, 03:51 PM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 31 2014, 10:51 A...   Jan 31 2014, 04:07 PM
||- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (Sponge @ Jan 31 2014, 05:07 PM) Th...   Jan 31 2014, 06:26 PM
||- - Epicedion   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 31 2014, 01:26 P...   Jan 31 2014, 07:07 PM
|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jan 31 2014, 12:07 PM)...   Jan 31 2014, 07:37 PM
|||- - Jack VII   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 31 2014, 01...   Jan 31 2014, 07:45 PM
|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Jack VII @ Jan 31 2014, 12:45 PM) ...   Jan 31 2014, 08:11 PM
|||- - Jack VII   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 31 2014, 02...   Jan 31 2014, 08:50 PM
|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Jack VII @ Jan 31 2014, 01:50 PM) ...   Jan 31 2014, 09:39 PM
||- - Sponge   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 31 2014, 01:26 P...   Jan 31 2014, 07:31 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Sponge @ Jan 31 2014, 02:31 PM) Ye...   Jan 31 2014, 07:42 PM
|||- - Epicedion   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 31 2014, 02:42 PM) ...   Jan 31 2014, 07:43 PM
||- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (Sponge @ Jan 31 2014, 08:31 PM) Ye...   Jan 31 2014, 09:04 PM
||- - Sponge   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 31 2014, 04:04 P...   Jan 31 2014, 10:08 PM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 31 2014, 02:04 P...   Jan 31 2014, 10:19 PM
||- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (RHat @ Jan 31 2014, 11:19 PM) That...   Jan 31 2014, 10:31 PM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 31 2014, 03:31 P...   Jan 31 2014, 10:36 PM
|- - Jack VII   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jan 31 2014, 09:51 A...   Jan 31 2014, 04:10 PM
|- - Jack VII   That was an odd double-post.   Jan 31 2014, 04:14 PM
- - Stahlseele   DR==DeviceRating i guess   Jan 31 2014, 08:20 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 31 2014, 01:20 PM...   Jan 31 2014, 08:41 PM
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