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post Mar 13 2014, 10:21 AM
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Okay, our group has been looking through the preview and the milspec armour caught our eyes. However, when you stop to think about it this stuff is a bit of a game breaker.

For instance, let's say that someone in medium milspec armour + helmet with a body of 4 is in a fight and someone opens up on him at full auto with an Ares Alpha assault rifle full of APDS, and gets a not exactly measly 5 hits.

Now our MM soldier has hardened armour 21, which is reduced to 15 by the net -6 AP of the rifle. the damage he's dealing with is 16 points, enough to outright floor most characters. Now 8 points of damage is automatically soaked by the hardened armour, leaving 8 to soak on 19 dice. 19 dice averages 6 1/3 hits, which we round down to 6 leaving 2 damage.

If the guy in the milspec had a measly 2 points of dermal plating or plastic bone lacing this becomes a single point of stun.


Now obviously this means that you need to deploy heavy weapons to deal with Milspec armour, but if there are any PCs without milspec then they'll go down from even standing nearby.
Also, you need seriously heavy weapons. HE grenades will have no effect on this guy.

The rule becomes all milspec or no milspec. One other side effect is that any serious opposition will be carrying assault cannons and missile launchers, which are apparently standard issue in modern armies...
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- FuelDrop   Hardened Milspec?   Mar 13 2014, 10:21 AM
- - Moirdryd   I think the new called shot rules in the book may ...   Mar 13 2014, 10:40 AM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Moirdryd @ Mar 13 2014, 09:40 PM) ...   Mar 13 2014, 11:19 PM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Smash @ Mar 14 2014, 07:19 AM) But...   Mar 13 2014, 11:24 PM
||- - Smash   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 14 2014, 10:24 AM) ...   Mar 13 2014, 11:32 PM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 13 2014, 05:24 PM) ...   Mar 14 2014, 03:20 AM
||- - psychophipps   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 13 2014, 09:20 PM) Oh, ...   Mar 14 2014, 03:30 AM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Mar 13 2014, 09:30 ...   Mar 14 2014, 03:37 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Smash @ Mar 13 2014, 04:19 PM) But...   Mar 14 2014, 12:27 AM
- - MrGlee   To be fair, it is a bit better than hardened armor...   Mar 13 2014, 10:41 AM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (MrGlee @ Mar 13 2014, 04:41 AM) Cu...   Mar 13 2014, 11:47 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Umidori @ Mar 14 2014, 10:47 AM) Y...   Mar 14 2014, 02:40 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Smash @ Mar 13 2014, 10:40 PM) One...   Mar 14 2014, 03:45 AM
- - Lobo0705   And, unless you are running a campaign where your ...   Mar 13 2014, 12:43 PM
- - forgarn   And remember you have the "appearance" f...   Mar 13 2014, 12:48 PM
|- - Sendaz   It should be a very rare occasion you would run in...   Mar 13 2014, 12:53 PM
||- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Mar 13 2014, 08:53 PM) So...   Mar 13 2014, 01:08 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (forgarn @ Mar 13 2014, 08:48 PM) A...   Mar 13 2014, 02:30 PM
|- - Lobo0705   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 13 2014, 10:30 AM) It...   Mar 13 2014, 02:50 PM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 13 2014, 09:30 AM) It...   Mar 13 2014, 10:46 PM
- - Drace   I highly expect encumberance will be a part of run...   Mar 13 2014, 10:29 PM
|- - Ixal   QUOTE (Drace @ Mar 13 2014, 11:29 PM) the...   Mar 13 2014, 10:35 PM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Drace @ Mar 14 2014, 06:29 AM) I h...   Mar 13 2014, 10:38 PM
|- - Ixal   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 13 2014, 11:38 PM) ...   Mar 13 2014, 10:45 PM
|- - Drace   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 13 2014, 05:38 PM) ...   Mar 13 2014, 11:04 PM
- - Smash   Also, the logistics of this kind of armour would m...   Mar 13 2014, 11:24 PM
- - Sendaz   how well does one swim in this sort of armor? Can...   Mar 13 2014, 11:32 PM
- - MrGlee   also, I have hope more gear is introduced for deal...   Mar 13 2014, 11:54 PM
- - psychophipps   Anything custom made holds a premium. Each suit ha...   Mar 14 2014, 01:55 AM
- - Moirdryd   I did mention other possible ways around it Fueldr...   Mar 14 2014, 03:48 AM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Moirdryd @ Mar 13 2014, 10:48 PM) ...   Mar 14 2014, 03:54 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Moirdyd @ Mar 14 2014, 11:48 AM) I...   Mar 14 2014, 04:39 AM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 14 2014, 03:39 PM) ...   Mar 14 2014, 05:39 AM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Smash @ Mar 13 2014, 11:39 PM) Agr...   Mar 14 2014, 06:02 AM
||- - Sendaz   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 14 2014, 02:02 AM) Othe...   Mar 14 2014, 10:38 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 13 2014, 10:39 PM) ...   Mar 14 2014, 06:00 AM
|- - Drace   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 14 2014, 12:39 AM) ...   Mar 14 2014, 06:43 PM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (Drace @ Mar 14 2014, 11:43 AM) Are...   Mar 14 2014, 11:25 PM
|- - Ixal   QUOTE (Umidori @ Mar 15 2014, 12:25 AM) w...   Mar 14 2014, 11:29 PM
- - Umidori   35k for 23 Hardened Armor for a VR Rigger or a pro...   Mar 14 2014, 06:16 AM
- - FuelDrop   Well what else does the technomancer have to spend...   Mar 14 2014, 06:45 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 14 2014, 12:45 AM) ...   Mar 14 2014, 09:42 AM
- - Umidori   Bribing their teammates to not turn them in for a ...   Mar 14 2014, 07:23 AM
- - Umidori   Yes, because the HTR on call for a corp facility t...   Mar 14 2014, 11:46 PM
|- - Ixal   QUOTE (Umidori @ Mar 15 2014, 12:46 AM) Y...   Mar 14 2014, 11:49 PM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Umidori @ Mar 15 2014, 07:46 AM) Y...   Mar 14 2014, 11:52 PM
- - Sendaz   I really don't see it as a problem because it ...   Mar 15 2014, 12:05 AM
- - psychophipps   Cyberpsycho Squad? Mixing our food groups a bit, n...   Mar 15 2014, 12:06 AM
- - FuelDrop   Both 'I need you to move' and Cyberpsycho ...   Mar 15 2014, 12:09 AM
- - Umidori   So basically what other folks are saying is that w...   Mar 15 2014, 12:43 AM


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