 Hidden mode and firearms, What's the disadvantage |
 Apr 4 2014, 03:23 PM
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I had a question regarding hidden mode and firearms, specifically those you might have smart-linked. As has been discussed through other threads, any device can go into hidden mode, the penalty being a -2 to matrix actions. The advantage is that a hacker must make a perception test to detect the hidden node. The 5E book gives an example (p.228) of a situation involving a smartgun and a decker; with the decker noticing the gun, tossing a Data Spike, and bricking the weapon.
My question is..what is the disadvantage in running hidden for smartguns? One of the staples for this new edition (if not one of the taglines) is that "Everything has a price". What disadvantage is there in using a smartgun thats in hidden mode? Do you lose its +2 bonus (I don't see anything referencing anything like that). Or is there no real disadvantage and the Ork in the example given was a hilariously ill-prepared noob for not having his gun in hidden mode. I suppose this question could be expanded to other devices as well. |
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Chimera Hidden mode and firearms Apr 4 2014, 03:23 PM
Jack VII There isn't a mechanical penalty since a smart... Apr 4 2014, 03:38 PM Jaid hidden mode is only hard to detect at all if it is... Apr 4 2014, 04:16 PM Chimera I would agree with these observations. I could al... Apr 4 2014, 04:34 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Chimera @ Apr 4 2014, 10:34 AM) I ... Apr 4 2014, 05:07 PM
Lobo0705 deleted Apr 4 2014, 05:19 PM BlackJaw QUOTE (Chimera @ Apr 4 2014, 11:34 AM) I ... Apr 4 2014, 05:26 PM Chimera These arguments I understand and agree with. If yo... Apr 4 2014, 08:42 PM Lobo0705 QUOTE (Chimera @ Apr 4 2014, 04:42 PM) Th... Apr 4 2014, 08:59 PM Smash QUOTE (BlackJaw @ Apr 5 2014, 03:26 AM) T... Apr 6 2014, 05:33 AM hermit Because without wireless, a smartlink is only wort... Apr 4 2014, 05:18 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2014, 11:18 AM) Bec... Apr 4 2014, 05:24 PM hermit Classy, Lobo. Apr 4 2014, 05:23 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2014, 11:23 AM) Cla... Apr 4 2014, 05:24 PM hermit QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 4 2014, 07... Apr 4 2014, 05:59 PM Jaid hmmm... just to make sure, i'm going to restat... Apr 5 2014, 05:42 AM Curator there's always throwback items. Apr 5 2014, 06:22 AM Umidori QUOTE (Curator @ Apr 5 2014, 12:22 AM) th... Apr 5 2014, 12:42 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 5 2014, 06:42 AM) We... Apr 5 2014, 04:03 PM FuelDrop If you could get something similar to an RCC and u... Apr 5 2014, 06:53 AM BlackJaw QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Apr 5 2014, 01:53 AM) I... Apr 5 2014, 12:34 PM Umidori Well I'll be!
Ah! I know what I was c... Apr 5 2014, 04:15 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 5 2014, 10:15 AM) We... Apr 5 2014, 04:17 PM Umidori Really? I never understood the appeal beyond chara... Apr 5 2014, 04:38 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 5 2014, 09:38 AM) Re... Apr 5 2014, 05:02 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 5 2014, 10:38 AM) Re... Apr 5 2014, 10:32 PM Umidori QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 5 2014, 03... Apr 5 2014, 10:45 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 5 2014, 04:45 PM) An... Apr 5 2014, 11:09 PM FuelDrop Hmmm...
You want a good vintage weapon? The M2 Bro... Apr 6 2014, 12:02 AM Umidori Except that stat-wise, it'd probably have lowe... Apr 6 2014, 12:09 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 5 2014, 05:09 PM) Ex... Apr 6 2014, 02:12 AM toturi QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 6 2014, 10... Apr 6 2014, 02:24 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (toturi @ Apr 5 2014, 07:24 PM) Lik... Apr 6 2014, 02:31 AM Faelan QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 5 2014, 09... Apr 6 2014, 02:49 AM Umidori QUOTE (Faelan @ Apr 5 2014, 07:49 PM) Onc... Apr 6 2014, 03:18 AM Faelan QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 5 2014, 10:18 PM) ..... Apr 6 2014, 03:29 AM Umidori QUOTE (Faelan @ Apr 5 2014, 08:29 PM) Try... Apr 6 2014, 03:48 AM Faelan QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 5 2014, 10:48 PM) We... Apr 6 2014, 11:20 AM Umidori QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 5 2014, 07... Apr 6 2014, 03:17 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 5 2014, 08:17 PM) Fi... Apr 6 2014, 05:21 AM Umidori QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 5 2014, 10... Apr 6 2014, 06:14 AM Faelan QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 6 2014, 01:14 AM) So... Apr 6 2014, 11:23 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Faelan @ Apr 6 2014, 04:23 AM) In ... Apr 6 2014, 03:15 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 5 2014, 11:14 PM) So... Apr 6 2014, 03:13 PM Jaid i doubt people would look at you *that* weirdly fo... Apr 6 2014, 04:19 AM Umidori Owning a 1911 in 2011? Not that weird.
Owning a 1... Apr 6 2014, 04:40 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 5 2014, 09:40 PM) Ow... Apr 6 2014, 05:25 AM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 5 2014, 08:40 PM) Ow... Apr 6 2014, 06:37 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Apr 5 2014, 11:37... Apr 6 2014, 03:14 PM Faelan QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 6 2014, 10... Apr 6 2014, 03:29 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Faelan @ Apr 6 2014, 08:29 AM) Exa... Apr 6 2014, 04:25 PM Xystophoroi QUOTE (Faelan @ Apr 6 2014, 03:29 PM) Exa... Apr 8 2014, 09:41 AM Faelan QUOTE (Xystophoroi @ Apr 8 2014, 05:41 AM... Apr 8 2014, 11:50 AM Sendaz QUOTE (Xystophoroi @ Apr 8 2014, 04:41 AM... Apr 8 2014, 12:39 PM Faelan QUOTE (Sendaz @ Apr 8 2014, 07:39 AM) I c... Apr 8 2014, 02:34 PM Xystophoroi QUOTE (Sendaz @ Apr 8 2014, 12:39 PM) I c... Apr 8 2014, 02:46 PM Umidori Fair point. I forgot that it was actually that the... Apr 6 2014, 06:54 AM hermit QUOTE Sure, if you don't mind having half the ... Apr 6 2014, 11:47 AM X-Kalibur While I love my 1911A1, I feel my USP .45 is much ... Apr 7 2014, 05:26 AM Faelan QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Apr 7 2014, 12:26... Apr 7 2014, 11:44 AM Smash This hidden mode has got me thinking a little bit.... Apr 7 2014, 10:04 PM Jaid 9 dice isn't exactly what i would call impress... Apr 8 2014, 01:28 AM Slide_Eurhetemec QUOTE (Jaid @ Apr 8 2014, 01:28 AM) 9 dic... Apr 8 2014, 09:18 AM Jaid QUOTE (Slide_Eurhetemec @ Apr 8 2014, 05... Apr 8 2014, 02:15 PM hermit QUOTE Maybe the solution (if your problem is that ... Apr 8 2014, 01:01 PM Chimera I am ok with the concept of having your weapon be ... Apr 8 2014, 02:54 PM Smash QUOTE (Chimera @ Apr 9 2014, 12:54 AM) I ... Apr 9 2014, 02:20 AM psychophipps QUOTE (Smash @ Apr 8 2014, 08:20 PM) Not ... Apr 9 2014, 03:09 AM Smash QUOTE (psychophipps @ Apr 9 2014, 01:09 P... Apr 9 2014, 09:24 AM Slide_Eurhetemec QUOTE (psychophipps @ Apr 9 2014, 03:09 A... Apr 9 2014, 12:31 PM FuelDrop QUOTE (Slide_Eurhetemec @ Apr 9 2014, 08... Apr 9 2014, 10:17 PM Jaid the default assumption in SR5 is that people are d... Apr 8 2014, 05:52 PM Xystophoroi QUOTE (Jaid @ Apr 8 2014, 05:52 PM) the d... Apr 8 2014, 10:42 PM Jaid missions is almost like an entirely different sett... Apr 8 2014, 11:18 PM SpellBinder Great deterrent if you detect that a random homeow... Apr 9 2014, 03:41 AM Xystophoroi I guess it depends on how frequently you think peo... Apr 9 2014, 06:41 AM Umidori I'm with FuelDrop on this - I honestly expect ... Apr 9 2014, 10:23 PM Sendaz QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 9 2014, 05:23 PM) So... Apr 9 2014, 10:33 PM DWC QUOTE (Sendaz @ Apr 9 2014, 06:33 PM) Yep... Apr 14 2014, 03:05 PM psychophipps QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 9 2014, 05:23 PM) I... Apr 10 2014, 02:29 AM Smash QUOTE (psychophipps @ Apr 10 2014, 12:29 ... Apr 10 2014, 03:15 AM psychophipps QUOTE (Smash @ Apr 9 2014, 09:15 PM) They... Apr 10 2014, 03:56 AM Smash QUOTE (psychophipps @ Apr 10 2014, 01:56 ... Apr 10 2014, 11:16 AM Slide_Eurhetemec QUOTE (Smash @ Apr 10 2014, 11:16 AM) Gov... Apr 10 2014, 01:48 PM Umidori Please. New Jersey is a worthless hole, but its no... Apr 9 2014, 10:39 PM Jack VII I live in Louisiana. Homicide rates are astronomic... Apr 10 2014, 01:19 AM psychophipps As an aside, for those of you thinking of high sec... Apr 10 2014, 04:06 AM Jaid pretty sure there are different licenses/permits i... Apr 10 2014, 02:08 PM psychophipps QUOTE (Jaid @ Apr 10 2014, 08:08 AM) pret... Apr 10 2014, 03:24 PM Sendaz QUOTE (psychophipps @ Apr 10 2014, 10:24 ... Apr 10 2014, 03:52 PM Smash QUOTE (psychophipps @ Apr 11 2014, 01:24 ... Apr 11 2014, 02:06 AM psychophipps QUOTE (Smash @ Apr 10 2014, 08:06 PM) All... Apr 11 2014, 03:27 AM Xystophoroi Throwbacks are legal to own right?
If so it can... Apr 10 2014, 02:35 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Xystophoroi @ Apr 10 2014, 08:35 A... Apr 10 2014, 03:29 PM Sendaz They say throwbacks exist, the legality is not men... Apr 10 2014, 03:18 PM X-Kalibur Ultimately though, you'd just need a firearms ... Apr 10 2014, 04:41 PM  |
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