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post Jan 4 2015, 04:46 PM
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In the thread, Redjack's Matrix Primer, we started discussing SINs. The original context is in regards to the ownership mechanic. This thread is to discuss house rules for SINs.
QUOTE (SR5 @ pg366)
Modern society in 2075 produces a staggering amount of information every second of every day: where you are, what you buy, and what you do. With the system producing all of these pieces of information, there needs to be an easy way to store, track, and correlate it. All of that information needs to be associated with a person somehow. That’s where the SIN comes in. A SIN is issued to a person a birth, and stays with them (baring exceptional circumstances) for the rest of their life. A SIN identifies a person in the global information system and is attached to every piece of information associated with them in the Matrix. No aspect of modern or legal life can function without a SIN. Those who don’t have one can’t get a job, can’t buy food, can’t even walk down the street.
So the problem really breaks down here in that governments should be issuing SINs to people and corporations should be demanding it.

When I GM my SR4 game, the technomancer on the team is continually getting short term fake SINs for the team. Many times he buys SINs that are simply the product of identity theft. ergo: 37 year old Chinese female, deceased but not yet reported. 17 year old male, student, hiking in the Rockies for the next 36 hours. 25 year old Caucasian female, Horizon receptionist in Seattle, currently (and expected to be for 24 hours) in medically induced coma as Jane Doe. etc. We are working on writing rules for how that.

Even a person with a criminal SIN is a step above the SINless and there is a hidden perk for the corporation or nation who issues the SIN:
QUOTE (SR5 @ pg84)
He is also required to pay a fiteen percent tax on his gross income to the entity that issued his Criminal SIN.
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- Redjack   SINs   Jan 4 2015, 04:46 PM
- - Sendaz   So should there be a dual rating on Fake SINs perh...   Jan 4 2015, 05:17 PM
|- - Redjack   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jan 4 2015, 11:17 AM) So ...   Jan 4 2015, 05:33 PM
- - Redjack   One of the places where this really matters is the...   Jan 4 2015, 05:20 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Redjack @ Jan 5 2015, 04:20 AM) On...   Jan 4 2015, 09:19 PM
|- - Redjack   QUOTE (Smash @ Jan 4 2015, 03:19 PM) This...   Jan 4 2015, 09:28 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Smash @ Jan 4 2015, 01:19 PM) This...   Jan 4 2015, 10:04 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 5 2015, 09:04 AM) Yes, ...   Jan 5 2015, 10:53 PM
- - Sendaz   Yes, that was what I meant. For depreciation, I...   Jan 4 2015, 05:56 PM
- - Redjack   Just throwing out something for us to tear apart t...   Jan 4 2015, 06:04 PM
- - Sendaz   Looking at it again, maybe you are right about no ...   Jan 4 2015, 06:29 PM
|- - Redjack   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jan 4 2015, 12:29 PM) I t...   Jan 4 2015, 07:13 PM
- - Sengir   Based on the fake SIN rules on p. 367, low-level S...   Jan 4 2015, 07:55 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 4 2015, 02:55 PM) Bas...   Jan 4 2015, 08:07 PM
||- - Sengir   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 4 2015, 09:07 PM) Q...   Jan 4 2015, 08:33 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 4 2015, 03:33 PM) The...   Jan 4 2015, 08:50 PM
|- - Redjack   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 4 2015, 01:55 PM) sin...   Jan 4 2015, 08:51 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Redjack @ Jan 4 2015, 09:51 PM) My...   Jan 4 2015, 10:39 PM
|- - Kyrel   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 4 2015, 11:39 PM) Wha...   Jan 4 2015, 11:20 PM
||- - Sengir   QUOTE (Kyrel @ Jan 5 2015, 12:20 AM) Woul...   Jan 5 2015, 01:42 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 4 2015, 02:39 PM) Wha...   Jan 5 2015, 12:33 AM
- - Cain   I think the problem needs to be approached from a ...   Jan 4 2015, 08:54 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 5 2015, 07:54 AM) The n...   Jan 4 2015, 09:25 PM
- - binarywraith   Actually, it's because there's an algorith...   Jan 5 2015, 01:23 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jan 4 2015, 05:23 P...   Jan 5 2015, 03:33 AM
- - Bertramn   I am thinking of a system which takes the SIN mech...   Jan 5 2015, 10:40 AM
- - Shemhazai   I generally like the SIN rules, but I would change...   Jan 5 2015, 07:54 PM
- - Draco18s   Again, that's where the fundamental disconnect...   Jan 5 2015, 11:48 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 6 2015, 10:48 AM) A...   Jan 6 2015, 01:11 AM
- - binarywraith   No room to hold them, and who's going to bothe...   Jan 6 2015, 12:17 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 5 2015, 05:42 AM) @Ca...   Jan 6 2015, 07:20 AM
|- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 6 2015, 08:20 AM) The p...   Jan 6 2015, 08:17 AM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (Shemhazai @ Jan 6 2015, 12:17 AM) ...   Jan 6 2015, 08:54 AM
||- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 6 2015, 09:54 AM) The q...   Jan 6 2015, 07:19 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 6 2015, 08:20 AM) The p...   Jan 6 2015, 08:34 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 6 2015, 12:34 PM) We ...   Jan 6 2015, 09:51 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 6 2015, 02:51 PM) Even ...   Jan 6 2015, 09:56 PM
|||- - Cain   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 6 2015, 01...   Jan 6 2015, 10:14 PM
||||- - Redjack   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 6 2015, 04:14 PM) That ...   Jan 6 2015, 10:36 PM
||||- - Cain   QUOTE (Redjack @ Jan 6 2015, 02:36 PM) A ...   Jan 7 2015, 01:13 AM
||||- - Smash   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 7 2015, 12:13 PM) Since...   Jan 7 2015, 02:13 AM
||||- - Redjack   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 6 2015, 07:13 PM) Since...   Jan 7 2015, 05:02 AM
||||- - Sengir   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 7 2015, 02:13 AM) No, b...   Jan 7 2015, 01:19 PM
||||- - Cain   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 7 2015, 05:19 AM) The...   Jan 7 2015, 01:57 PM
||||- - Redjack   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 7 2015, 07:57 AM) Accor...   Jan 7 2015, 02:55 PM
|||||- - Cain   QUOTE (Redjack @ Jan 7 2015, 06:55 AM) I...   Jan 7 2015, 08:11 PM
||||- - Sengir   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 7 2015, 02:57 PM) Anywa...   Jan 7 2015, 08:45 PM
|||- - Smash   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 7 2015, 08...   Jan 6 2015, 10:26 PM
||- - Sengir   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 6 2015, 10:51 PM) Unles...   Jan 6 2015, 10:38 PM
|- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 6 2015, 09:34 PM) @Sh...   Jan 7 2015, 12:29 AM
- - Sendaz   I see the SINless doing a lot of trading/bartering...   Jan 6 2015, 12:58 PM
- - Bertramn   I do not like the disconnect after fourth edition,...   Jan 6 2015, 02:17 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Bertramn @ Jan 6 2015, 10:17 AM) I...   Jan 10 2015, 08:21 PM
- - Smash   I'd like to add that Google (and facebook to a...   Jan 8 2015, 12:01 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 7 2015, 12:45 PM) It ...   Jan 8 2015, 12:59 AM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 7 2015, 06:59 PM) Right...   Jan 8 2015, 09:05 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 8 2015, 01:59 AM) True,...   Jan 9 2015, 04:56 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 9 2015, 08:56 AM) OK,...   Jan 9 2015, 11:51 PM
|- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 10 2015, 12:51 AM) What...   Jan 10 2015, 12:45 AM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (Shemhazai @ Jan 9 2015, 04:45 PM) ...   Jan 10 2015, 03:47 AM
||- - Redjack   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 9 2015, 09:47 PM) Sadly...   Jan 10 2015, 04:00 AM
|||- - Cain   QUOTE (Redjack @ Jan 9 2015, 08:00 PM) A ...   Jan 10 2015, 06:06 AM
||- - Redjack   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 7 2015, 02:11 PM) by ac...   Jan 10 2015, 12:53 PM
||- - Shev   QUOTE (Redjack @ Jan 10 2015, 08:53 AM) A...   Jan 11 2015, 12:47 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 10 2015, 12:51 AM) What...   Jan 10 2015, 06:26 PM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 10 2015, 12:26 PM) No...   Jan 10 2015, 11:34 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jan 11 2015, 12:34 ...   Jan 11 2015, 02:14 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 10 2015, 06:14 PM) Th...   Jan 11 2015, 02:59 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 11 2015, 03:59 AM) This...   Jan 11 2015, 08:01 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 11 2015, 12:01 PM) It...   Jan 11 2015, 11:29 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 12 2015, 12:29 AM) Exte...   Jan 12 2015, 01:10 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 11 2015, 05:10 PM) Ma...   Jan 12 2015, 03:04 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 12 2015, 04:04 AM) Coun...   Jan 13 2015, 04:30 PM
- - Sendaz   @Cain: That is a good point about the MLP and spam...   Jan 11 2015, 03:02 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jan 10 2015, 07:02 PM) @C...   Jan 11 2015, 03:31 AM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jan 10 2015, 09:02 PM) @C...   Jan 12 2015, 12:27 AM
- - Smash   Maybe the title of this thread should have been ...   Jan 12 2015, 05:33 AM
|- - Bertramn   QUOTE (Smash @ Jan 12 2015, 06:33 AM) May...   Jan 12 2015, 05:57 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Smash @ Jan 11 2015, 09:33 PM) Let...   Jan 12 2015, 09:39 AM
|- - Redjack   QUOTE (Cain @ Jan 12 2015, 03:39 AM) It...   Jan 12 2015, 04:25 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Redjack @ Jan 12 2015, 08:25 AM) M...   Jan 12 2015, 04:47 PM
- - binarywraith   There's a reason I vastly prefer the 2050...   Jan 12 2015, 05:45 AM
|- - Shev   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jan 12 2015, 01:45 ...   Jan 12 2015, 07:25 AM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Shev @ Jan 12 2015, 01:25 AM) I te...   Jan 12 2015, 12:04 PM
|- - Redjack   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jan 12 2015, 06:04 ...   Jan 12 2015, 04:27 PM
- - Koekepan   I hate to do this, but .... I agree with Cain. W...   Jan 12 2015, 08:01 PM
|- - Redjack   QUOTE (Koekepan @ Jan 12 2015, 02:01 PM) ...   Jan 12 2015, 08:07 PM
- - ProfGast   I'm siding with Redjack here. Your SIN ...   Jan 12 2015, 08:29 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (ProfGast @ Jan 12 2015, 12:29 PM) ...   Jan 13 2015, 01:03 AM
- - Draco18s   Think of the SIN as being the primary key in a log...   Jan 12 2015, 08:50 PM
- - Koekepan   QUOTE (Redjack @ Jan 12 2015, 11:07 PM) Q...   Jan 13 2015, 01:48 AM
|- - Redjack   QUOTE (Koekepan @ Jan 12 2015, 07:48 PM) ...   Jan 13 2015, 04:11 AM
|- - Smash   I think though that perhaps we all kind of agree w...   Jan 13 2015, 06:09 AM
|- - Koekepan   QUOTE (Smash @ Jan 13 2015, 09:09 AM) I t...   Jan 13 2015, 04:37 PM
- - ProfGast   Well Cain, I see where your'e coming from, I r...   Jan 13 2015, 05:59 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (ProfGast @ Jan 12 2015, 09:59 PM) ...   Jan 13 2015, 08:14 AM
- - binarywraith   Honestly, I more and more miss 2e, because there...   Jan 13 2015, 07:22 AM
- - Bertramn   What if I am a SINner and break into a corporate s...   Jan 13 2015, 09:32 AM
- - ProfGast   I'm not saying it's necessarily 100% belie...   Jan 13 2015, 09:54 AM
- - Bogert   I think the SIN rules are essentially fine as writ...   Jan 13 2015, 04:37 PM
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