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AlyW
post Jul 11 2015, 08:54 PM
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I've a fair amount of exp. playing SR4, and have never played SR5. I am currently working my way through the SR5 core book, albeit slowly due to time constraints. So perhaps, could someone here give me a super-brief primer on what the big changes (if any?) between the two editions are?
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- AlyW   SR4 v SR5   Jul 11 2015, 08:54 PM
- - Medicineman   QUOTE (AlyW @ Jul 11 2015, 04:54 PM) I...   Jul 11 2015, 09:17 PM
- - hermit   1a) Hackers can now hack your things that they exp...   Jul 11 2015, 10:41 PM
- - Abschalten   Stick with SR4, and backport the handful of things...   Jul 11 2015, 11:47 PM
- - Lionhearted   No love for SR5 I see, god I barely touched my SR4...   Jul 12 2015, 01:15 AM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Jul 11 2015, 08:15 P...   Jul 12 2015, 05:32 AM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Jul 12 2015, 11:15 A...   Jul 23 2015, 10:27 PM
|- - Mikado   QUOTE (Smash @ Jul 23 2015, 06:27 PM) Dum...   Jul 23 2015, 11:21 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Mikado @ Jul 24 2015, 09:21 AM) Wo...   Jul 23 2015, 11:49 PM
|- - apple   QUOTE (Smash @ Jul 23 2015, 07:49 PM) You...   Jul 24 2015, 11:57 AM
- - Glyph   Karmagen (called Point Buy in SR5) is more restric...   Jul 12 2015, 01:53 AM
- - Lionhearted   Wasnt always the benefit of karmagen over bp that ...   Jul 12 2015, 02:01 AM
- - Glyph   Theoretically, this was true, but Karmagen gave yo...   Jul 12 2015, 04:08 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jul 12 2015, 12:08 AM) The...   Jul 12 2015, 01:52 PM
|- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jul 12 2015, 06:52 AM)...   Jul 12 2015, 03:32 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Jul 12 2015, 08:32 A...   Jul 12 2015, 04:11 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jul 12 2015, 05:52 AM)...   Jul 12 2015, 05:25 PM
- - Medicineman   @ Karmagen You get 800 Karma If you deduct the Hi...   Jul 12 2015, 05:40 AM
- - AlyW   Blergh. Sounds like I'd be overall happier sti...   Jul 12 2015, 06:06 AM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (AlyW @ Jul 12 2015, 01:06 AM) Bler...   Jul 12 2015, 06:39 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (AlyW @ Jul 11 2015, 10:06 PM) Bler...   Jul 12 2015, 07:40 AM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (AlyW @ Jul 12 2015, 04:06 PM) Bler...   Jul 23 2015, 10:30 PM
- - Lionhearted   Didnt they playtest any of this?   Jul 12 2015, 06:10 AM
|- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Jul 12 2015, 12:10 A...   Jul 12 2015, 06:28 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Didnt they playtest any of this? Playtesting...   Jul 12 2015, 06:29 AM
- - Moirdryd   Most of the Wireless silliness (especially with sm...   Jul 12 2015, 09:30 AM
- - hermit   But in SR5, Nanopaste memory will eat your soul, a...   Jul 12 2015, 04:16 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 12 2015, 09:16 AM) Bu...   Jul 12 2015, 04:20 PM
|- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 12 2015, 10:16 AM) Bu...   Jul 12 2015, 04:32 PM
- - hermit   That's gamism versus simulation, or "how ...   Jul 12 2015, 04:57 PM
- - AlyW   Can cyberware have firewalls, like in SR4? augment...   Jul 13 2015, 04:36 AM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (AlyW @ Jul 12 2015, 11:36 PM) Can ...   Jul 13 2015, 05:35 AM
- - Betx   I never played SR4, so I can't compare it with...   Jul 13 2015, 04:45 PM
- - Wothanoz   The rumors of wireless being a deathtrap are great...   Jul 13 2015, 05:03 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE The rumors of wireless being a deathtrap are...   Jul 13 2015, 05:25 PM
|- - Wothanoz   QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 13 2015, 12:25 PM) Th...   Jul 13 2015, 06:21 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Wothanoz @ Jul 13 2015, 02:21 PM) ...   Jul 13 2015, 07:59 PM
|- - Smirnov   QUOTE (Wothanoz @ Jul 13 2015, 10:21 PM) ...   Jul 23 2015, 11:50 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Smirnov @ Jul 24 2015, 09:50 AM) S...   Jul 24 2015, 01:49 AM
|- - Wothanoz   QUOTE (Smash @ Jul 23 2015, 08:49 PM) Thi...   Jul 24 2015, 09:52 PM
- - Wothanoz   As regards to pay, I wonder what kind of runs ya...   Jul 13 2015, 05:47 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE If you are out on the grid, then you have to...   Jul 13 2015, 06:40 PM
|- - Wothanoz   QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 13 2015, 01:40 PM) So...   Jul 13 2015, 07:14 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE But if I am sneaking into some secure facili...   Jul 13 2015, 07:29 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE I assume that a group of disciplined, intell...   Jul 13 2015, 07:29 PM
|- - Wothanoz   QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 13 2015, 02:29 PM) .....   Jul 13 2015, 08:32 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Wothanoz @ Jul 13 2015, 02:32 PM) ...   Jul 13 2015, 08:53 PM
|- - Wothanoz   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 13 2015, 03...   Jul 14 2015, 02:55 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Wothanoz @ Jul 13 2015, 07:55 PM) ...   Jul 14 2015, 12:56 PM
- - Medicineman   I'd rather buy 20 Prepaid Comlinks for 20 ¥ a ...   Jul 13 2015, 08:22 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jul 13 2015, 02:22 P...   Jul 13 2015, 08:28 PM
- - AlyW   I apologize for my thread bringing up so many argu...   Jul 13 2015, 09:02 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE We are given a few examples of Deckers, and ...   Jul 13 2015, 09:08 PM
- - Lionhearted   Seem to me that some people are working under the ...   Jul 13 2015, 09:26 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Does the game mechanics actually do what the...   Jul 13 2015, 09:30 PM
- - DireRadiant   The problem with SR5 is that it is not SR4, or SR3...   Jul 13 2015, 09:32 PM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Jul 13 2015, 04:32 P...   Jul 14 2015, 05:44 AM
- - Moirdryd   Most security deckers will be operating on the Sit...   Jul 13 2015, 09:33 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE From my direct interaction with a hundred+ o...   Jul 13 2015, 11:25 PM
- - Glyph   QUOTE (AlyW @ Jul 13 2015, 01:02 PM) I ap...   Jul 14 2015, 01:22 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE But I don't know why people think shadow...   Jul 14 2015, 08:10 AM
- - Medicineman   QUOTE f.E. the CGL Guys realized that a Skill Leve...   Jul 14 2015, 01:57 PM
- - hermit   SR4's skills had low granularity, and an incre...   Jul 14 2015, 03:02 PM
- - Moirdryd   Mostly because, despite the new Matrix environment...   Jul 14 2015, 04:45 PM
- - AlyW   Curious, as this is not something I've thought...   Jul 16 2015, 12:58 AM
|- - Lionhearted   QUOTE (AlyW @ Jul 16 2015, 02:58 AM) Curi...   Jul 16 2015, 01:10 AM
- - Glyph   Riggers can use the electronic warfare skill for n...   Jul 16 2015, 01:20 AM
- - AlyW   Hrm, good to know. Considering cobbling together a...   Jul 16 2015, 01:36 AM
- - AlyW   Next question! I haven't used Martial Art...   Jul 17 2015, 07:29 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (AlyW @ Jul 17 2015, 01:29 AM) Next...   Jul 17 2015, 12:56 PM
- - Glyph   The whole section on combat maneuvers is a grating...   Jul 18 2015, 01:31 AM
- - AlyW   That last paragraph could be a concern, since the ...   Jul 18 2015, 08:45 PM
- - Glyph   If you bought both a martial art and the specializ...   Jul 19 2015, 01:00 AM
- - Medicineman   QUOTE All I was saying was, it is logical to expec...   Jul 19 2015, 06:47 AM
- - Isath   To me it is rather odd, to seperate unarmed combat...   Jul 21 2015, 02:05 PM
- - Blade   I agree that balance in Shadowrun is different fro...   Jul 21 2015, 02:59 PM
|- - Isath   QUOTE (Blade @ Jul 21 2015, 03:59 PM) So ...   Jul 21 2015, 04:47 PM
- - hermit   It didn't but it did do better than currently....   Jul 21 2015, 06:51 PM
- - Isath   Hermit I am right with you there. While it is a ve...   Jul 21 2015, 11:30 PM
- - hermit   Unfortunatly so, yes.   Jul 21 2015, 11:57 PM
- - Sternenwind   Will there be a ChromedFlesh PDF version with a us...   Jul 22 2015, 04:43 PM
|- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (Sternenwind @ Jul 22 2015, 09:43 A...   Jul 22 2015, 11:56 PM
- - Glyph   Smash, if you have a problem with any of the thing...   Jul 24 2015, 02:02 AM
- - Redjack   QUOTE Personal attacks, flaming, trolling, and bai...   Jul 24 2015, 12:33 PM
- - Sternenwind   Do you not need a Sleaze attribute to hide somethi...   Jul 24 2015, 11:25 PM
- - Glyph   Sleaze is a Matrix Attribute, used as a limit for ...   Jul 25 2015, 01:01 AM
- - Sternenwind   He roll Logic [ - ] vs Computer + Intuitionm[Data ...   Jul 25 2015, 08:20 AM
- - apple   Thats the point where you use 1000 small stealth t...   Jul 25 2015, 09:07 AM
- - Moirdryd   There is no Limit on the Logic + Sleaze roll Stern...   Jul 25 2015, 11:13 AM
|- - Wothanoz   QUOTE (Moirdryd @ Jul 25 2015, 06:13 AM) ...   Jul 25 2015, 01:56 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Wothanoz @ Jul 25 2015, 06:56 AM) ...   Jul 25 2015, 02:52 PM
|- - apple   QUOTE (Wothanoz @ Jul 25 2015, 09:56 AM) ...   Jul 25 2015, 03:25 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (apple @ Jul 25 2015, 10:25 AM) Yes...   Jul 25 2015, 04:00 PM
|- - Deckbeard   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jul 25 2015, 11:00 AM) *h...   Jul 25 2015, 04:05 PM
- - Medicineman   QUOTE As for wireless being a death sentence, that...   Jul 25 2015, 07:23 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jul 25 2015, 02:23 P...   Jul 25 2015, 08:00 PM
- - Glyph   Mages already have the equivalent of going wireles...   Jul 25 2015, 10:01 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Best way to avoid it is to turn off wireless...   Jul 26 2015, 10:39 AM
- - Moirdryd   Two simple fixes... 1) Make the stuff work like i...   Jul 26 2015, 10:59 AM
- - hermit   I wouldn't call it a fix (spend a lot of Essen...   Jul 26 2015, 01:06 PM
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