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Awakened Master Ninja ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 949 Joined: 30-January 07 From: CalFree Member No.: 10,844 |
I confess, I’m not a fan of the Infected. I think the whole concept of “Infected Rights” is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard of in the entire history of Shadowrun and as far as I’m concerned a cure for HMHVV was found long ago; it’s called fire – apply lots of it to the Infected patient until the infection disappears. This cure has a 100% success rate, and should be applied globally as soon as possible. Granting monsters that want to eat you civil rights? Why not just shoot yourself in the head? It’s quicker. Apparently it’s supposed to be a not-too-subtle allegory for [insert oppressed group X here], but it’s a terrible one, as I don’t know any members of [insert oppressed group X here] that actually kill and eat people (something that would, in fact, fully justify discrimination against them).
That said, they do make good (and nasty) villains in the game, but I think they could use a little streamlining, especially since Strain II (Ghilani Moneriviridae) rarely gets any press. So we’ll just drop that one and concentrate on revamped versions of Strains I and III (now renamed Strain II), as follows. Strain I (Ghilani Vrykolakivididae) Metatype______Becomes Human...............Vampire Elf......................Banshee Dwarf.................Goblin Ork....................Grendel Troll...................Dzoo-noo-qua Sasquatch..........Jabberwock Strain Ib Metatype______Becomes Human...............Nosferatu Strain II (Ghilani Wichtiviridae) Metatype______Becomes Any....................Ghoul Strain IIb Metatype______Becomes Elf......................Harvester All of these should be Dual-Natured creatures (so as to more easily keep these filthy things outside with astral wards). SR5 has, with the exception of one or two of the Infected, already taken this approach and I very much approve of it. The end result here is fairly clean and simple. There are now just two major strains, one which has variable effects depending on the victim’s metatype, and another which always has one effect regardless of the victim’s metatype. There are also two “variant strains” that create rarer (and even more terrifying) monsters, but if you don’t want Nosferatu or Harvesters in your campaign world, you can just drop these. This also frees up the Wendigo to be not just another plague carrier or run-of-the-mill monster, but the terrifying creature of Native American legend that it ought to be. Really, go look up the legends of the Wendigo. It’s a fantastically terrifying creature and relegating it to the status of being just a furry, Infected ork is such a waste it’s practically a crime. With this fix in place, you can introduce the Wendigo as either a magical creature or a spirit, in all its horrifying glory, which is a much better use for it in the campaign world. One last thing that needs to be addressed – ghoul infection needs to be dialed down. I’m scarcely the first person to comment that, as written, even George Romero must be impressed at the Ghoul Apocalypse that would already have happened long ago with creatures this infectious. Currently, consulting SR4 Running Wild, it has a Power of 8. I’m thinking that cutting that in half to a Power of 4 would be a better alternative. Does anyone already have any house rules on reducing HMHVV III infection potency to avert the Ghoul Apocalypse? |
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JanessaVR HMHVV Revamped and Streamlined Dec 17 2015, 07:51 PM
Wounded Ronin So, my one comment about the transmission is that ... Dec 18 2015, 05:46 AM
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Mantis I could have sworn the guy who did the infected ru... Dec 18 2015, 05:57 PM
Sendaz QUOTE (Mantis @ Dec 18 2015, 12:57 PM) I ... Dec 19 2015, 08:24 PM
Mantis Yeah, that seems like the discussion and Patrick p... Dec 20 2015, 05:14 PM
Sendaz From Patrick Goodman's errata the biggest thin... Dec 21 2015, 09:58 PM
JanessaVR Sounds like the following might do it then:
Vecto... Dec 22 2015, 05:37 PM
JanessaVR Building on the above, this goes back to the first... Dec 23 2015, 09:23 PM
Cochise There seem to be some things off with your list:
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Sendaz Chupacabras were mentioned in 2nd Ed Cyberpirates ... Dec 23 2015, 10:22 PM
Sendaz If we are doing the shuffle, could we consider dit... Dec 23 2015, 11:43 PM
JanessaVR QUOTE (Sendaz @ Dec 23 2015, 03:43 PM) If... Dec 24 2015, 12:08 AM
Mantis I've always preferred them as monsters over pl... Dec 23 2015, 11:52 PM
JanessaVR This actually does make me think...if we accept th... Dec 24 2015, 03:43 AM
Cochise QUOTE (JanessaVR)This actually does make me think.... Dec 24 2015, 10:51 AM
JanessaVR Well, the short answer is that, yes, HMHVV has str... Dec 24 2015, 06:12 PM
JanessaVR QUOTE (Cochise @ Dec 24 2015, 02:51 AM) A... Dec 25 2015, 01:25 AM
Sendaz Well just a point to ponder:
QUOTE (JanessaVR ... Dec 25 2015, 10:53 AM
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Sendaz Now one point in the Infected's favour is show... Dec 29 2015, 06:34 PM
JanessaVR QUOTE (Sendaz @ Dec 29 2015, 10:34 AM) No... Dec 29 2015, 06:58 PM
Sengir QUOTE (Sendaz @ Dec 29 2015, 07:34 PM) No... Dec 30 2015, 05:14 PM
Wounded Ronin In some cultures, people eat dogs.
At the same ti... Dec 29 2015, 11:38 PM
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Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jan 5 2016, 05:50 AM) I a... Jan 5 2016, 11:11 PM

JanessaVR QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 3 2016, 10:15 AM) The... Jan 3 2016, 08:39 PM
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Sendaz mmmmmmm.. jerky ^_^
Wait, that might not work.
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Sendaz Well Patrick Goodman came back to us about this on... Jan 2 2016, 02:54 AM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jan 1 2016, 09:54 PM) Wel... Jan 2 2016, 04:22 AM
Sendaz Well with the restriction about no salts/nitrates/... Jan 2 2016, 11:08 AM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jan 2 2016, 06:08 AM) Wel... Jan 3 2016, 11:59 PM
Sendaz QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jan 3 2016, 06:59 ... Jan 4 2016, 12:24 AM
Sendaz Got this from the Patrick on the other forum today... Jan 4 2016, 06:23 PM
JanessaVR Well, glad to see we've attracted Patrick... Jan 4 2016, 09:00 PM
Sendaz In regards to the use of magical preparation as su... Jan 4 2016, 09:13 PM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jan 4 2016, 04:13 PM) In ... Jan 4 2016, 10:19 PM
JanessaVR Ok, the holiday season gave the time to both think... Jan 5 2016, 02:07 AM
binarywraith QUOTE (JanessaVR @ Jan 4 2016, 08:07 PM) ... Jan 17 2016, 10:20 PM
JanessaVR Ah, one thing I forgot, the “descent into mo... Jan 5 2016, 02:51 AM
Patrick Goodman Someone invoked me? Jan 5 2016, 11:41 PM
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Sengir QUOTE (Patrick Goodman @ Jan 6 2016, 12:4... Jan 7 2016, 11:36 PM
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Sendaz Okay, who left the summoning circle on?
@ Patric... Jan 5 2016, 11:55 PM
Patrick Goodman QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jan 5 2016, 05:55 PM) Now... Jan 6 2016, 02:13 AM
Patrick Goodman Gonna start out with: I didn't have anything t... Jan 7 2016, 01:58 PM
JanessaVR QUOTE (Patrick Goodman @ Jan 7 2016, 05:5... Jan 7 2016, 07:23 PM
Sendaz @ Sengir
Aye. They did introduce a few spells t... Jan 8 2016, 08:21 PM
Patrick Goodman The 1% vs 5% thing was introduced in editorial a b... Jan 18 2016, 09:18 PM
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Patrick Goodman My wife knows what I write. She got some amusement... Jan 19 2016, 11:34 PM
Sendaz Good to see she has a sense of humour.
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