 Fifth Without Wireless Bonus/Bricking, So i'm tyring to give fifth a look with fresh eyes. |
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I'm trying to give Fifth another look. I liked a lot of the concepts and changes but the poor editing and 'ware hate put me off it. Does anyone have any experience with just house ruling ware wireless bonuses to be default and getting rid of or severely nerfing bricking? I feel like you'd have to significantly reduce the costs of cyberdecks and peripherals to make up for it but I'm mostly ok witht hat.
Any other thoughts on Fifth edition now that it's been out in the wild for several years? |
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LurkerOutThere Fifth Without Wireless Bonus/Bricking Apr 28 2016, 02:02 PM
Zednark I'd say wireless bonueses should be on a case ... Apr 28 2016, 02:16 PM Stahlseele The +4 Reaction is not unbalanced either.
The wire... Apr 28 2016, 02:32 PM
SpellBinder QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 28 2016, 07:32 AM... Apr 28 2016, 03:04 PM Larsenex What are you referring to? What is the ware hate y... Apr 28 2016, 03:04 PM Medicineman @Stahlseele & Spellbinder
Zednark wrote MORE ... Apr 28 2016, 03:19 PM Ixal QUOTE (Medicineman @ Apr 28 2016, 03:19 P... Apr 28 2016, 09:14 PM Mantis What we did with bricking was to have it force a s... Apr 28 2016, 03:45 PM Iduno The only other problem I have heard of is missing ... Apr 28 2016, 05:26 PM Sendaz Check out the rules on wifi signal underwater,
Pag... Apr 28 2016, 10:40 PM Ixal QUOTE (Sendaz @ Apr 28 2016, 10:40 PM) Ch... Apr 28 2016, 11:21 PM KCKitsune QUOTE (Ixal @ Apr 28 2016, 07:21 PM) A in... Apr 29 2016, 12:47 AM Ixal QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Apr 29 2016, 12:47 AM)... Apr 29 2016, 04:02 PM binarywraith QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Apr 28 2016, 07:47 PM)... Apr 30 2016, 06:04 AM Critias QUOTE (Sendaz @ Apr 28 2016, 04:40 PM) Ho... Apr 29 2016, 02:20 AM Medicineman QUOTE (Critias @ Apr 28 2016, 10:20 PM) A... Apr 29 2016, 07:29 AM Glyph Wireless bonuses were horribly implemented, basica... Apr 29 2016, 02:03 AM ShadowDragon8685 I have a great idea for fixing SR5.
Play Shadowrun... Apr 29 2016, 03:32 AM JanessaVR QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Apr 28 2016, 08... May 6 2016, 06:06 PM Jaid a select few wireless bonuses actually make sense ... Apr 29 2016, 03:33 AM ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE (Jaid @ Apr 28 2016, 11:33 PM) a se... Apr 29 2016, 04:06 AM LurkerOutThere Part of the problem is wireless bonuses and bricki... Apr 29 2016, 03:50 AM Zednark QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Apr 28 2016, 11:5... Apr 29 2016, 04:15 AM LurkerOutThere So the general consensus seems to be ware hate, wi... Apr 29 2016, 08:51 AM Stahlseele No, even without that it is not better than SR4A a... Apr 29 2016, 08:55 AM LurkerOutThere Anything else?
Because none of those changes rea... Apr 29 2016, 09:04 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Apr 29 2016, 02:0... Apr 29 2016, 06:37 PM Medicineman QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 29 2016, 02... Apr 29 2016, 06:49 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Medicineman @ Apr 29 2016, 12:49 P... May 2 2016, 04:08 PM ShadowDragon8685 Let's not even forget that the chowderheads in... Apr 29 2016, 09:04 AM Larsenex QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Apr 29 2016, 10... May 6 2016, 11:58 PM Stahlseele Yeah, that for example is another really big step ... Apr 29 2016, 09:24 AM Jaid QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 29 2016, 04:24 AM... Apr 29 2016, 05:55 PM Medicineman QUOTE Then there is the stupidity of, for some rea... Apr 29 2016, 09:55 AM Sengir QUOTE (Medicineman @ Apr 29 2016, 11:55 A... Apr 29 2016, 12:52 PM Medicineman QUOTE (Sengir @ Apr 29 2016, 08:52 AM) ..... Apr 29 2016, 03:09 PM Sengir QUOTE (Medicineman @ Apr 29 2016, 05:09 P... May 2 2016, 10:10 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Sengir @ Apr 29 2016, 05:52 AM) ..... Apr 29 2016, 06:40 PM Sengir QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Apr 28 2016, 04:0... Apr 29 2016, 10:04 AM LurkerOutThere Perhaps I didn't phrase my question/scenario r... Apr 29 2016, 10:11 AM Medicineman QUOTE What are some other areas that should concer... Apr 29 2016, 10:16 AM LurkerOutThere MM: it's all bad or the stuff out of rigger 5?... Apr 29 2016, 10:20 AM Medicineman QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Apr 29 2016, 06:2... Apr 29 2016, 12:25 PM Stahlseele You need to differentiate between the Cool Vehicle... Apr 29 2016, 10:37 AM hermit QUOTE Barring absurd Wireless bonuses and a few pa... Apr 29 2016, 01:12 PM Iduno QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 29 2016, 08:12 AM) SR... Apr 29 2016, 07:46 PM hermit QUOTE No, you spend half a point of Essence for th... Apr 29 2016, 05:18 PM Stahlseele Wonder if, for SR6, they will, in an attempt to lo... Apr 29 2016, 08:12 PM Iduno Nah. SR3 rules aren't complicated enough.
Ye... Apr 29 2016, 08:43 PM Stahlseele QUOTE (Iduno @ Apr 29 2016, 09:43 PM) Nah... Apr 29 2016, 10:28 PM LurkerOutThere So does anyone have a house rules document drawn u... Apr 29 2016, 10:26 PM ShadowDragon8685 Meh, there's a reason I said "just go to ... Apr 30 2016, 01:26 AM hermit QUOTE Everything from submarine escapes from a lan... Apr 30 2016, 10:14 AM binarywraith QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 30 2016, 04:14 AM) Ye... Apr 30 2016, 08:36 PM KCKitsune QUOTE (binarywraith @ Apr 30 2016, 03:36 ... May 1 2016, 12:35 PM Mantis Still you want a real world example of a niche pro... May 1 2016, 05:53 PM LurkerOutThere Started looking at ware prices between editions. U... May 2 2016, 07:08 AM binarywraith Yeah, you know, the basic replacement 'oh shit... May 2 2016, 07:29 AM Critias Ah, the fights over 'ware prices I wish I coul... May 2 2016, 07:38 AM Sendaz I always felt part of the problem was cost is real... May 2 2016, 08:35 AM FriendoftheDork QUOTE (Sendaz @ May 2 2016, 10:35 AM) I a... May 2 2016, 12:40 PM binarywraith QUOTE (Sendaz @ May 2 2016, 03:35 AM) So ... May 5 2016, 06:27 AM LurkerOutThere QUOTE (Sendaz @ May 2 2016, 02:35 AM) The... May 5 2016, 06:43 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ May 4 2016, 11:43... May 5 2016, 01:56 PM Glyph Augmentations, like cyberdecks, are simply too exp... May 2 2016, 09:33 AM ShadowDragon8685 The New Coke wasn't that stupid Ares rifle.
T... May 2 2016, 11:16 AM Medicineman QUOTE So basically, your complaint is that you can... May 2 2016, 11:51 AM FriendoftheDork QUOTE (Medicineman @ May 2 2016, 01:51 PM... May 2 2016, 01:04 PM Sengir QUOTE (Medicineman @ May 2 2016, 01:51 PM... May 2 2016, 01:16 PM Chance359 I've always seen dicepool as a better represen... May 3 2016, 03:36 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Chance359 @ May 2 2016, 08:36 PM) ... May 3 2016, 04:31 AM sk8bcn I'm on the side of the 12 cap too.
I really d... May 3 2016, 09:01 AM hermit With regards to the relevance of skill, I've m... May 3 2016, 01:13 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (hermit @ May 3 2016, 07:13 AM) Wit... May 3 2016, 01:16 PM hermit QUOTE And in my experience they tend to punish the... May 3 2016, 01:32 PM Glyph That was really my biggest problem with SR4 skill ... May 3 2016, 07:44 PM ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE (Glyph @ May 3 2016, 03:44 PM) That... May 3 2016, 08:06 PM Sengir QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ May 3 2016, 10... May 5 2016, 10:24 PM ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE (Sengir @ May 5 2016, 06:24 PM) Wel... May 6 2016, 12:18 AM hermit QUOTE But see, Shadowrun always had that problem w... May 4 2016, 12:13 PM Sendaz QUOTE (hermit @ May 4 2016, 08:13 AM) 2) ... May 4 2016, 12:25 PM hermit Well, yes. Though if you plug into 20 commlinks, a... May 4 2016, 12:51 PM Blade Tying Essence loss to loss of sanity/empathy/human... May 4 2016, 01:46 PM JanessaVR QUOTE (Blade @ May 4 2016, 06:46 AM) Tyin... May 6 2016, 06:00 PM Stahlseele QUOTE (JanessaVR @ May 6 2016, 08:00 PM) ... May 7 2016, 12:22 AM JanessaVR QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 6 2016, 04:22 PM)... May 7 2016, 12:33 AM Stahlseele QUOTE (JanessaVR @ May 7 2016, 02:33 AM) ... May 7 2016, 12:43 AM JanessaVR QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 6 2016, 04:43 PM)... May 7 2016, 12:52 AM hermit QUOTE Tying Essence loss to loss of sanity/empathy... May 4 2016, 02:02 PM Blade Yes, it's one Edgessence point for one Magic p... May 4 2016, 02:35 PM Stahlseele Also ware got ridiculously expensive again.
And t... May 5 2016, 02:34 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 5 2016, 07:34 AM)... May 5 2016, 04:04 PM ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ May 5 2016, 01:43... May 5 2016, 03:17 PM Medicineman QUOTE So according to this, every time you merge i... May 6 2016, 06:16 AM FriendoftheDork QUOTE (Medicineman @ May 6 2016, 08:16 AM... May 6 2016, 11:09 AM Mantis I think from a rules perspective, as in what overr... May 6 2016, 08:17 AM ShadowDragon8685 Or, alternatively, they dramatically lowballed the... May 6 2016, 11:45 AM Stahlseele Yeah, that's what i meant with it cascading in... May 7 2016, 12:57 AM JanessaVR QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 6 2016, 05:57 PM)... May 7 2016, 01:11 AM binarywraith QUOTE (JanessaVR @ May 6 2016, 08:11 PM) ... May 7 2016, 03:04 AM  |
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