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This thread comes from the discussion over on the SoE board regarding not so much that book but the direction the Shadowrun line has taken. Since I think this is an interesting discussion and mostly lost and out of place on the subforum, I'd like to bring it here. Part of the reason I'd like to see more debate on this is simply to get a sounding (however biased it might be) regarding not so much what people dislike about the current products (a trend which has been all too common on these boards of late) but rather what they would like.
Try to be constructive, there's no point in tearing stuff down if you yourself don't know what you want specifically or would like to see. For what it's worth I'd like to ask posters to keep this as civil and constructive as possible. In the spirit of open discussion I'd like to ask people, especially those who seem to have a problem with the current direction, to come forward and say not what they wouldn't like to see but what they wouldlike to see for the next 5-6 Shadowrun books both in terms of content and general direction/focus. Literally, what would please you to see come up next. As a couple of informative notes I'd like to add the following factoids that may or may not help the discussion (this is from European distributor sources but I am led to believe by the same that the situation is identical in America) : * Adventures are selling worse than ever on the RPG market, campaigns sell marginally better but still far behind normal source- and rule-books. * Single location books in any genre, except possibly Superheroes, are selling badly. |
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Synner So what next... in SR Jul 27 2004, 12:10 AM
Backgammon Shadows of the Middle-East
Shadows of Asia
Yes, i... Jul 27 2004, 12:42 AM
Birdy General direction:
Less "Magic" (Try a... Jul 27 2004, 12:48 AM
Synner QUOTE (Backgammon @ Jul 27 2004, 12:42 AM) Sh... Jul 27 2004, 12:51 AM
mfb electronic networking. i want to see more useable ... Jul 27 2004, 12:52 AM
CirclMastr Sort of building on what Backgammon said, I'd ... Jul 27 2004, 12:56 AM
Large Mike I concur. Darker. Grittier. This is supposed to... Jul 27 2004, 01:01 AM
Enigma Personally, I'd like to see more "hook... Jul 27 2004, 01:11 AM
Skeptical Clown New Seattle is probably the best location book ava... Jul 27 2004, 01:23 AM
kevyn668 I know I'll probably get blasted for this but.... Jul 27 2004, 01:48 AM
Doctor Funkenstein I know this is going to sound a bit hypocritical, ... Jul 27 2004, 02:55 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) 1. More inclusion of t... Jul 27 2004, 03:26 AM
mfb definitely. leave the big stuff largely unexplaine... Jul 27 2004, 03:28 AM
Thanos007 No more new weapons. Jeez there are enough now. Ju... Jul 27 2004, 03:29 AM
mfb i would definitely disagree with that last stateme... Jul 27 2004, 03:31 AM
Skeptical Clown I'm honestly a little surprised at how little ... Jul 27 2004, 03:36 AM
kevyn668 In fact, they exist IRL... Jul 27 2004, 03:40 AM
sir fwank personally i was disappointed with sota2063, i exp... Jul 27 2004, 03:40 AM
kevyn668 I don't think we need anymore chrome. What els... Jul 27 2004, 03:43 AM
Doctor Funkenstein Options are always good. Jul 27 2004, 03:48 AM
Apathy QUOTE I'd like to see things go worse. People ... Jul 27 2004, 04:12 AM
Jason Farlander This is not a new complaint, but it seems that ade... Jul 27 2004, 04:16 AM
Userlimit QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein @ Jul 27 2004, 02:5... Jul 27 2004, 04:16 AM
DeadNeon I for one would like a sourcebook or something whi... Jul 27 2004, 04:17 AM
Domino I would like to see more unbroken cyberlimb rules. Jul 27 2004, 06:22 AM
mfb broken as in...? Jul 27 2004, 06:24 AM
Domino As in compared to Bioware who would use them?
I c... Jul 27 2004, 06:36 AM
mfb okay, in that case, i agree. Jul 27 2004, 07:04 AM
lacemaker I think the computer/IT sourcebook idea is a good ... Jul 27 2004, 07:39 AM
Synner Given the limited appeal the Matrix and Decking ru... Jul 27 2004, 08:48 AM
Hunter Personally, I'd like to see more done with bio... Jul 27 2004, 09:21 AM
Paul I may ramble a bit, so pardon me if I burst into f... Jul 27 2004, 10:04 AM
Quix I'll second, or am I third? the idea of wantin... Jul 27 2004, 10:12 AM
lorg Ohh lets see ... I have so far prefered the Shadow... Jul 27 2004, 10:21 AM
mfb i would like to register a strong and immediate co... Jul 27 2004, 10:33 AM
MYST1C QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein)3. I would love to... Jul 27 2004, 10:36 AM
Crisp Ok, lets start at the beginning: the format. I... Jul 27 2004, 10:49 AM
lorg On a Media note I always have a jolly time when I ... Jul 27 2004, 10:53 AM
Xirces QUOTE (Hunter) Personally, I'd like to see mor... Jul 27 2004, 10:56 AM
L.D Since I absolutely love Harley I'm gonna go wi... Jul 27 2004, 11:26 AM
Skeptical Clown The first Harlequin was great. He wasn't out ... Jul 27 2004, 11:44 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (mfb) i would like to register a strong and ... Jul 27 2004, 11:57 AM
L.D I'm not saying we need another HB adventure (a... Jul 27 2004, 12:07 PM
Pinel If single-location books don't sell well, why ... Jul 27 2004, 12:28 PM
lorg As L.D. said, amazonia certainly is one giant blac... Jul 27 2004, 12:30 PM
Nath QUOTE (lorg) As L.D. said, amazonia certainly is o... Jul 27 2004, 12:36 PM
Xirces Pinel, this is exactly the area where TSS and vari... Jul 27 2004, 12:47 PM
kevyn668 I'd like to register another vote for more Ed/... Jul 27 2004, 01:38 PM
toturi I would like a whole book on SR/ED linkages and Ho... Jul 27 2004, 02:00 PM
lorg Geography is tricky. After all where does one star... Jul 27 2004, 02:06 PM
Mr.Platinum Just Shadows of Asia I would love to see, I like t... Jul 27 2004, 02:38 PM
Ditaki For the Target: Magic book, do you think they coul... Jul 27 2004, 02:56 PM
Backgammon I think big region books are far more important th... Jul 27 2004, 03:15 PM
nezumi I'd like to start by saying again how great a ... Jul 27 2004, 03:31 PM
Leoric I think that the SOTA format is just very good: It... Jul 27 2004, 04:08 PM
Jason Farlander QUOTE (Leoric) Why not introducing a "Breakin... Jul 27 2004, 04:22 PM
Skeptical Clown My problem with the "Regional" books is ... Jul 27 2004, 04:38 PM
Apathy I agree with Clown. I'll buy SoE to support th... Jul 27 2004, 04:54 PM
booklord First, I'd like to see some of the lesser know... Jul 27 2004, 05:20 PM
Pelaka Regarding book format I like the Shadows of X and ... Jul 27 2004, 06:07 PM
Thanos007 QUOTE 2. I would love to see the IEs/Dragons get t... Jul 27 2004, 06:35 PM
mfb others have mentioned a change i'd like to see... Jul 27 2004, 06:44 PM
Userlimit QUOTE (Ditaki) I'd also like a Target: Wildern... Jul 27 2004, 06:57 PM
nezumi I've gotta agree with Thanos. Focusing on eve... Jul 27 2004, 06:58 PM
Doctor Funkenstein My problem with books featuring a lot of areas is ... Jul 27 2004, 07:29 PM
WolfJack Personally, I miss the old style of books like Str... Jul 27 2004, 08:03 PM
Pinel QUOTE (nezumi)Focusing on every corner of the eart... Jul 27 2004, 08:12 PM
tjn My take...
Resolution. Every story has a beginni... Jul 27 2004, 09:37 PM
The Question Man I liked the Rigger 3 Revised Sourcebook. The fact ... Jul 27 2004, 10:08 PM
mfb the advanced tech you mentioned is already present... Jul 27 2004, 10:09 PM
Skeptical Clown QUOTE (tjn) My take...
Resolution. Every story h... Jul 27 2004, 10:27 PM
tjn Skep, it's a game that uses storytelling as it... Jul 27 2004, 10:50 PM
Skeptical Clown No, it didn't. We still might not know what r... Jul 27 2004, 11:23 PM
tjn QUOTE (mfb) the advanced tech you mentioned is alr... Jul 27 2004, 11:37 PM
GrinderTheTroll QUOTE (Skeptical Clown)My take is that plot thread... Jul 27 2004, 11:38 PM
Paul However you surely realize you are not bound by wh... Jul 27 2004, 11:39 PM
mfb of course anyone can make whatever changes they wa... Jul 27 2004, 11:46 PM
Paul I realize that-but I think tha people have to real... Jul 27 2004, 11:57 PM
mfb true. Jul 28 2004, 12:06 AM
tjn QUOTE (Skeptical Clown) No, it didn't. We sti... Jul 28 2004, 12:27 AM
JongWK Location books for Latin America, Asia and Africa.... Jul 28 2004, 12:50 AM
Sepherim I'd go for "Shadows of..." all aroun... Jul 28 2004, 12:55 AM
Kanada Ten Target: Awakened Lands 2
Chapter One: Dark Jungle... Jul 28 2004, 01:14 AM
mfb Chapter Four: Tibet Jul 28 2004, 01:19 AM
Kagetenshi Chapter Five: Australia one more time
~J Jul 28 2004, 01:21 AM
Kanada Ten One of the things I worry about Tibet is the vast ... Jul 28 2004, 01:25 AM
Sepherim I too would rather leave the Tibet be. It's be... Jul 28 2004, 01:38 AM
Skeptical Clown QUOTE (tjn @ Jul 28 2004, 12:27 AM) Skep, SR ... Jul 28 2004, 01:39 AM
Moonstone Spider I have to agree with tjn about the plots. There... Jul 28 2004, 01:44 AM
Skeptical Clown So how about someone just gets a big list of answe... Jul 28 2004, 01:47 AM
Domino Perhaps this discussion should go in another threa... Jul 28 2004, 01:52 AM
BitBasher QUOTE (Skeptical Clown) So how about someone just ... Jul 28 2004, 01:59 AM
mfb untrue. the conclusion to the plot element may sim... Jul 28 2004, 02:02 AM
Skeptical Clown Eh? I don't quite follow that, but I was simpl... Jul 28 2004, 02:04 AM
Thanos007 QUOTE So book after book is filled with plot hooks... Jul 28 2004, 02:17 AM
BitBasher Allright, I'm going to actually chip in here.
... Jul 28 2004, 02:19 AM
Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (mfb)
others have mentioned a change i'd... Jul 28 2004, 02:48 AM
BitBasher QUOTE Unless I can get involved in it and play aro... Jul 28 2004, 02:53 AM
Sepherim Oh, though it has been mentioned already, I too wo... Jul 28 2004, 02:54 AM
Masterofthegame From reading the advertisements for Mr. Johnson... Jul 28 2004, 03:04 AM![]() ![]() |
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