 [Dragons6thW] Consequences of losing a Great., GMs please help me discuss the pros/cons |
 Aug 30 2004, 12:41 AM
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I was currently planning a run where there would be a possibility for my team to flat out kill a great dragon. And not just any great dragon, but the big one, Lofwyr. Now The odds of them pulling it of are EXTREMELY slim at best and I have countermeasures for if they get close to it but there is still that chance that they pull it off.
What would the reprecautions of such a serious powerplayer in the world of Shadowrun to just be blown away by a group of meta-human runners? Any thing good or bad could help. My current Pros are so, this team get the glory (plus the almost unlimited bounties) of killing Seader-Krupps main Dragon. They retire rich and famous and proud. Europe, Asia, and the MIddle East are free fromm his control. Transys Neurnet (Cele) gets control of the grids of Europe and a new Loremaster is found (Ghosty?). However the Cons are slightly harder to plan out. Do the other greats welcome the death of their greatest enemy, or do they take his assassination as a direct insult (and threat) to their proud race and declare war not only on those responsible, but the entire Metahumanity. And what of Saeder-Krupp, will they go under or will a new Great/adult take them over in Lofys place? Any help with this would be great. Also if any other GM is having a run for or against another Great then they may themselves use this Thread as a way to find info. I have DOTSW and im purchasing POAD:DS soon so I may be able to help some people. Thanks alot and may dealing with Dragons be your best! |
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Firyoshin [Dragons6thW] Consequences of losing a Great. Aug 30 2004, 12:41 AM
Bigity More power to you to handle whatever you want in y... Aug 30 2004, 01:12 AM Firyoshin Im not trying to kill the Big L but my runners see... Aug 30 2004, 01:18 AM aeon Let them die. Plain and simple. I'd really be ... Aug 30 2004, 01:39 AM Ancient History It has been done. The closest in this Age would be... Aug 30 2004, 01:41 AM aeon Would you be so kind and tell me how. And why Alam... Aug 30 2004, 01:50 AM Ancient History Priest sort of stumbled across Alamaise by acciden... Aug 30 2004, 01:56 AM aeon Thanks for pointing this out Aug 30 2004, 01:59 AM Firyoshin But if I allow it to happen what would probably ha... Aug 30 2004, 02:06 AM mfb yeah, i really don't see any group of runners ... Aug 30 2004, 02:49 AM L.D Besides that they'd most likely be dead (by so... Aug 30 2004, 06:17 AM Namergon Nobody mentioned a new fight between Greats for Lo... Aug 30 2004, 01:11 PM mfb isn't there a draconic ritual for dividing the... Aug 30 2004, 10:21 PM Senchae QUOTE (mfb) isn't there a draconic ritual for ... Aug 30 2004, 11:21 PM snowRaven Unless the runners have access to a large-scale nu... Aug 31 2004, 12:06 AM FrostyNSO Anybody have stats on Lofwyr? Aug 31 2004, 05:36 AM paul_HArkonen its near the end, in the GM info section of DOtSW Aug 31 2004, 02:20 PM FrostyNSO Anybody wanna give me a ballpark on those? Aug 31 2004, 04:20 PM Johnson Basically, I would taste their crispies. How can y... Sep 1 2004, 07:08 AM mfb the ballpark figure on L's stats are "way... Sep 1 2004, 05:25 PM FrostyNSO But there would have to be an upper limit on his a... Sep 1 2004, 05:44 PM mfb specific stats aren't given, just general stuf... Sep 1 2004, 05:55 PM Demonseed Elite Well, Dunk's stats did appear in Dragon Magazi... Sep 1 2004, 05:58 PM mfb magic 20...? i don't know whether to laugh or ... Sep 1 2004, 06:52 PM lokugh Ok Tom Dowd's article was written in 1993... t... Sep 1 2004, 08:47 PM lokugh Er, quick addendum to my post: I might still be lo... Sep 1 2004, 08:52 PM mfb his Rea should be 16. and as for the grade thing, ... Sep 2 2004, 11:36 AM prettz Actually I thought about doing something like this... Sep 2 2004, 06:58 PM Nath QUOTE (lokugh)Remember, the stats for Great Dragon... Sep 2 2004, 09:23 PM FrostyNSO Also, 6000 years doesn't just give them 6000 y... Sep 2 2004, 11:07 PM lokugh Nath and Frosty,
That could all be true enough. ... Sep 3 2004, 02:58 AM lokugh QUOTE (mfb) his Rea should be 16. and as for the g... Sep 3 2004, 03:15 AM FrostyNSO Everything should be killable to some extent, it... Sep 3 2004, 04:49 AM L.D Because all the FASA dragons where weaklings. Peri... Sep 3 2004, 05:43 AM prettz It depends, if you have 40 points to spread though... Sep 3 2004, 02:11 PM Demonseed Elite Yeah, I've always been of the opinion that a d... Sep 3 2004, 02:39 PM lokugh Multiple points:
1. Raising stats: Physical stat... Sep 3 2004, 03:50 PM FrostyNSO I agree with Demonseed and Prettz.
The power of a... Sep 3 2004, 05:11 PM mfb yes, well, "massive intellect", to me, s... Sep 3 2004, 05:27 PM FrostyNSO How is 13 not massive? The average metahuman is 3... Sep 3 2004, 05:36 PM Demonseed Elite QUOTE i don't really subscribe to the exponent... Sep 3 2004, 05:38 PM prettz lokugh
"Raising stats: Physical stats could b... Sep 3 2004, 06:05 PM mfb we don't actually know what the dragons were d... Sep 3 2004, 06:35 PM Senchae QUOTE (FrostyNSO)I think dragons like Lofwyr or Bi... Sep 3 2004, 06:52 PM lokugh Replies to multiple people:
Whereas a shadowrunne... Sep 5 2004, 09:55 PM Demonseed Elite I'm not really saying that Great Dragons aren... Sep 5 2004, 10:19 PM Ancient History Your stats may be a bit off, Lokugh. If Lofwyr is ... Sep 5 2004, 10:20 PM prettz lokugh
"Well, I think equating a down-cycle d... Sep 7 2004, 05:19 PM lokugh QUOTE (Ancient History) Your stats may be a bit of... Sep 7 2004, 05:42 PM lokugh I'm not sure I always thought of Ghostwalker b... Sep 7 2004, 05:52 PM mfb i base my opinion that dragons are astrally active... Sep 7 2004, 06:05 PM Ancient History It has been suggested that dragons could have been... Sep 7 2004, 06:16 PM lokugh QUOTE (Ancient History) It has been suggested that... Sep 7 2004, 08:23 PM Kagetenshi Are Sirrurg and Lofwyr friends at all? Sirrurg ten... Sep 7 2004, 10:53 PM Ancient History Sirrurg is a loner, pure and simple. And he's ... Sep 7 2004, 10:56 PM lokugh QUOTE (Ancient History) Sirrurg is a loner, pure a... Sep 8 2004, 12:04 AM Kagetenshi Right, I'm just wondering if his hunt would ex... Sep 8 2004, 12:05 AM Sargasso I've found the "Kill the biggest thing in... Sep 9 2004, 05:01 PM Sargasso I think of the relationship dragons have to mana w... Sep 9 2004, 05:10 PM lokugh QUOTE (Sargasso) I've found the "Kill the... Sep 9 2004, 10:38 PM Sargasso Oh, the Big D was still a dragon, and a fairly rut... Sep 9 2004, 11:43 PM Kagetenshi Lofwyr's overriding goal is the greater good h... Sep 9 2004, 11:47 PM lokugh QUOTE (Sargasso) Oh, the Big D was still a dragon,... Sep 10 2004, 12:51 AM Kagetenshi He was killed in the sense that he killed himself.... Sep 10 2004, 01:17 AM Johnson Well the way I understand it he sacrificed himself... Sep 13 2004, 07:29 AM Kagetenshi By powering the Dragon Heart, yes.
~J Sep 13 2004, 07:34 AM Just Jonny I really think a Great of Lofwyr's power'd... Oct 6 2004, 12:53 AM Kanada Ten Dragons don't like using Divination according ... Oct 6 2004, 01:00 AM Tanka 1) Always remember the special powers Greats get t... Oct 6 2004, 02:47 AM HMHVV Hunter QUOTE (Ancient History) Priest sort of stumbled ac... Oct 6 2004, 04:12 PM Fuchs I always play it so that if the only thing keeping... Nov 29 2005, 12:01 PM nick012000 Actually, I'll point out that Immortal Elves a... Dec 1 2005, 02:15 AM Fuchs I'd say to kill Lowfyr, an orbital strike may ... Dec 1 2005, 09:53 AM Doc-Pond-Water No Lowfyr is very killable I could do it with two ... May 30 2006, 09:25 AM mallet Just reviving the dead here,
But if you were to s... Aug 12 2006, 09:06 AM mfb actually, the way i'd do it is that they'd... Aug 12 2006, 08:30 PM SL James Am I the only one thinking of the fight between Su... Aug 12 2006, 10:04 PM LilithTaveril Oh, here's an idea: The GDs play 4-D chess usi... Aug 12 2006, 11:21 PM SL James No... Lofwyr and Nachtmeister (and Alamaise in Rag... Aug 13 2006, 04:08 AM Kanada Ten Don't forget that packs of Wyverns have taken ... Aug 16 2006, 09:39 PM t-morton have you explained to your players that going afte... Aug 28 2006, 08:22 AM Kagetenshi Sure there's something to do—you start going a... Aug 28 2006, 02:36 PM
Critias Yeah. I mean, that first Great? That's just ... Aug 28 2006, 04:14 PM  |
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