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post Sep 2 2003, 08:16 PM
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I've been looking at White Wolf games recently, and I'd like to know your thoughts on them, especially if you've played some. How do they compare to Shadowrun? It seems like there is less to "do" in these games, being limited by the fact that you are a vampire or whatever. Shadowrun has this liberty of goal and actions that I don't think these games have.

Also, I took a quick look at Mage traditions, and man, there are some good ideas for Shadowrun initiatory groups and threats in there. I especially liked the idea of mages who are fervent ecstasy seekers. Seems so obvious to me know that such groups would exist in Shadowrun.

Anyway, please post your miscellaneous thoughts on all of this.
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- Backgammon   Seeking info on White Wolf games   Sep 2 2003, 08:16 PM
- - HMHVV Hunter   I think the focuses of the games are very differen...   Sep 2 2003, 08:24 PM
- - Ancient History   I tend to try and follow the metaplot, which culmi...   Sep 2 2003, 08:25 PM
- - Ronin Soul   The feeling of the games is as said very different...   Sep 3 2003, 01:09 AM
- - Pistons   Well, Orpheus just barely came out, so there hasn...   Sep 3 2003, 02:10 AM
- - Darth Phylos   QUOTE (Pistons @ Sep 3 2003, 12:10 PM) Well, ...   Sep 3 2003, 02:18 AM
- - HMHVV Hunter   For that matter, what is Orpheus? I've never ...   Sep 3 2003, 02:20 AM
- - Finbar   Well, I ran a Changeling The Shadowrun game at D...   Sep 3 2003, 04:01 AM
- - BookWyrm   Orpheus (a VERY limited RPG) is about the player b...   Sep 3 2003, 04:07 AM
- - HMHVV Hunter   The Orphic Circle?! I remember hearing about ...   Sep 3 2003, 04:09 AM
- - Ancient History   Yeeaah...they do that alot.   Sep 3 2003, 04:12 AM
- - Adam   The Orpheus page is at http://www.white-wolf.com/o...   Sep 3 2003, 04:39 AM
- - HMHVV Hunter   Hmmm...apparently I was mistaken. This doesn...   Sep 3 2003, 04:42 AM
- - Enkeli   And if you are looking some recent world changing ...   Sep 3 2003, 05:10 AM
- - Pistons   QUOTE (HMHVV Hunter) So these guys are basically W...   Sep 3 2003, 01:10 PM
- - HMHVV Hunter   QUOTE (Enkeli) And if you are looking some recent ...   Sep 3 2003, 01:46 PM
- - Adam   It's in the following press release: http://ww...   Sep 3 2003, 01:52 PM
- - HMHVV Hunter   Sweeeeeeeeet.   Sep 3 2003, 02:00 PM
- - kevyn668   The thing I like best about the World of Darkness ...   Sep 3 2003, 02:43 PM
- - The_Sarge   Apart from all that, it seems that the WOD has mos...   Sep 3 2003, 03:59 PM
- - Snow_Fox   You mean they came out with a new system, jusdt a ...   Sep 3 2003, 04:26 PM
- - Adam   QUOTE (Snow_Fox) You mean they came out with a new...   Sep 3 2003, 04:56 PM
- - Backgammon   Hmm, pretty interesting stuff, especially Ronin So...   Sep 3 2003, 05:25 PM
- - The_Sarge   What do you do? That's up to the Storyteller ...   Sep 3 2003, 06:10 PM
- - Atrox   Werewolf can be mission-oriented, of sorts. Obviou...   Sep 3 2003, 06:30 PM
- - Black Isis   I think my biggest problem with WoD is that it sli...   Sep 3 2003, 07:57 PM
- - Atrox   What you describe is the reason I'll never run...   Sep 3 2003, 08:21 PM
- - kevyn668   @Black Isis: I'll agree you about the "ev...   Sep 3 2003, 08:28 PM
- - The_Sarge   There goes the crossover-continuity. *g* Mage mak...   Sep 3 2003, 08:35 PM
- - kevyn668   don't have Mage. but I'll take your word f...   Sep 3 2003, 09:00 PM
- - Black Isis   QUOTE (kevyn668)@Black Isis: I'll agree you ab...   Sep 3 2003, 09:10 PM
- - The_Sarge   Mage - Storyteller Handbook p.40 QUOTE A secret ...   Sep 3 2003, 09:17 PM
- - The_Sarge   QUOTE (Black Isis) I want a normal person to be ab...   Sep 3 2003, 09:20 PM
- - Crusher Bob   Despite being set in generally the same 'world...   Sep 4 2003, 05:39 AM
- - Ronin Soul   Hunter is the most "Mundane fair". The I...   Sep 4 2003, 07:28 AM
- - HonorableMan   I only played and mastered Vampire Werewolf and Ma...   Sep 4 2003, 09:09 AM
- - HonorableMan   On the subject of physically harmless mortals: One...   Sep 4 2003, 09:12 AM
- - Snow_Fox   Black isis- the challenge in VtM is that while hum...   Sep 4 2003, 12:53 PM
- - Black Isis   Well, the problem I have is, if Vampires/Werewolve...   Sep 4 2003, 02:18 PM
- - Adam   QUOTE (Black Isis) Well, the problem I have is, if...   Sep 4 2003, 02:31 PM
- - Raccoon Avatar   QUOTE (Adam @ Sep 4 2003, 02:31 PM) QUOTE (Bl...   Sep 4 2003, 02:51 PM
- - SeekerJST   First. For your information, lemmings do not suici...   Sep 4 2003, 03:27 PM
- - Raccoon Avatar   QUOTE (SeekerJST @ Sep 4 2003, 03:27 PM) Firs...   Sep 4 2003, 03:41 PM
- - The_Sarge   @Black Isis re: Why not take over the world? Beca...   Sep 4 2003, 03:58 PM
- - vitus979   QUOTE (Enkeli @ Sep 3 2003, 05:10 AM) It basi...   Sep 4 2003, 04:52 PM
- - Atrox   QUOTE (HonorableMan @ Sep 4 2003, 09:12 AM) O...   Sep 4 2003, 05:04 PM
- - The_Sarge   QUOTE (vitus979) I'd point out that Exalted is...   Sep 4 2003, 05:15 PM
- - Ronin Soul   QUOTE (The_Sarge) QUOTE (vitus979 @ Sep 4 200...   Sep 5 2003, 07:10 AM
- - Sunday_Gamer   The world of Darkness is very dark and gloomy, tha...   Sep 5 2003, 07:20 AM
- - HonorableMan   In addition, the several supernaturals have some k...   Sep 5 2003, 10:17 AM
- - The_Sarge   Emm... Ever read 'Project EOS'? There ARE...   Sep 5 2003, 02:22 PM
- - Hot Wheels   7 clans? Boy, are they in for a surprise when the ...   Sep 5 2003, 03:03 PM
- - The_Sarge   Not like this. *g* It's just: "Hey, he...   Sep 5 2003, 04:58 PM
- - Atrox   You wouldn't happen to mean Project Twilight (...   Sep 5 2003, 05:10 PM
- - Icepick   Let's see here, a very opinionated, and somewh...   Sep 7 2003, 05:27 AM
- - Darth Phylos   And Wild West Werewolf...   Sep 7 2003, 05:29 AM
- - The_Sarge   Why roll eyes? It's like "Sorceres Crusa...   Sep 7 2003, 09:56 AM
- - Atrox   Agreed. Shame they only ever brought out three of ...   Sep 7 2003, 09:21 PM
- - Icepick   QUOTE (Atrox) Agreed. Shame they only ever brought...   Sep 14 2003, 08:35 PM
- - Atrox   I'd heard it was a clash of personalities betw...   Sep 14 2003, 09:44 PM
- - Icepick   The basic rules aren't that hard. Attribute+Ab...   Sep 14 2003, 11:22 PM
- - NightWind   Hi guys, NightWind here. I started playing White ...   Sep 15 2003, 01:14 AM
- - Finbar   I've played WoD for 8 years now, played Change...   Sep 15 2003, 08:35 AM
- - Hot Wheels   QUOTE (NightWind) However, I got a little miffed ...   Sep 15 2003, 04:20 PM
- - The_Sarge   No one. I repeat: No one. Has to change their cha...   Sep 15 2003, 04:26 PM
- - NightWind   Yeah, Sarge. Clearly stated in the books. But th...   Sep 15 2003, 05:34 PM
- - The_Sarge   Yeah, I heard that some Mush'ers are pretty. ....   Sep 15 2003, 05:44 PM
- - Talondel   Well, one of the problems with on line play compar...   Sep 15 2003, 07:50 PM
- - The_Sarge   *bows to apologize* Sorry didn't want to insu...   Sep 15 2003, 07:59 PM
- - Atrox   Part of that is keeping the PCs balanced. Sure, ...   Sep 15 2003, 08:21 PM
- - The_Sarge   Yeah, that problem is there. But the scary stuff w...   Sep 15 2003, 08:24 PM
- - Atrox   Define "stupid", Sarge. One of the bett...   Sep 15 2003, 08:54 PM
- - The_Sarge   'Stupid' like: "Hey, are we allowed t...   Sep 15 2003, 09:05 PM
- - Atrox   So do I. Helps a lot if your group understands com...   Sep 15 2003, 09:21 PM
- - Icepick   QUOTE (Talondel) I've played my share of White...   Sep 15 2003, 11:28 PM
- - NightWind   Ahh, but I did get my piece of revenge in a round ...   Sep 16 2003, 02:22 AM
- - Ronin Soul   A little tangent, but somewhat connected to NightW...   Sep 16 2003, 01:25 PM
- - Hot Wheels   I agree, most of the WW games seem to be light on...   Sep 16 2003, 01:34 PM
- - U-Boat   Greetings all, I've played White Wolf games f...   Sep 24 2003, 03:35 AM
- - Icepick   Actually, some of the newer twists suggest a retur...   Oct 1 2003, 09:46 PM
- - White Knight   U-Boat: Well, the Technocracy have always been the...   Oct 2 2003, 07:08 AM
- - Icepick   QUOTE (White Knight) I'm guessing that the Mag...   Oct 4 2003, 04:14 AM
- - Finbar   I beleive thats 10 Unsoakable agg a round. you go...   Oct 4 2003, 07:23 AM
- - Atrox   What if you have Fortitude 10?   Oct 4 2003, 11:55 AM
- - The_Sarge   Err... Then you're some millenia-old über-vamp...   Oct 4 2003, 11:59 AM
- - Icepick   Well, anyways, there's always the Immunity mer...   Oct 5 2003, 09:08 PM
- - Tyrrell   because there is only one post on it in this whole...   Oct 24 2003, 08:33 PM
- - TinkerGnome   When I played Exalted heavily, it was before the o...   Oct 24 2003, 09:41 PM
- - bwdemon   I've played/GM'd/demo'd WoD games sinc...   Nov 1 2003, 10:56 PM
- - vitus979   QUOTE (Tyrrell) The die system is similar to WoD a...   Nov 14 2003, 06:00 PM
- - Tiralee   Wft is a Gaki? Don't play White Wolf (The ...   Dec 4 2003, 06:06 AM
- - Ancient History   A Gaki is a cannibalistic proto-Kinjin (read: orie...   Dec 4 2003, 01:58 PM
- - Enkeli   QUOTE (Ancient History) A Gaki is a cannibalistic ...   Dec 4 2003, 04:03 PM
- - Ancient History   Right, right, my bad. Been a while.   Dec 4 2003, 04:04 PM
- - Enkeli   It can happen to the best of us.   Dec 4 2003, 04:05 PM


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