Oct 28 2004, 12:24 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 541 Joined: 2-August 04 From: South Africa Member No.: 6,531 |
I have some interesting questions.
First -- Stun Batons I strike an opponent with a Stun baton. I yield 2 successes more than my opponent. Damage of stun baton is 8S does the stun damage stage up to 8D Second -- Shock Gloves I strike an opponent with a Shock Gloves. I yield 2 successes more than my opponent. Damage of shock glove is 8S does the stun damage stage up to 8D as above.(the later would not be pertinent if successes doesn't changes shock damage) As your physical damage also would increase (str)M stun to (str)S stun Third -- Stun batons and Trolls To determine TN for a Human and Troll. Human get +1 Reach(Stun Baton), Troll gets +2 Reach (Stun Baton and Nat. Reach). Point 1 ( I believe is correct ) In saying that the Troll would either make the TN greater by +1 for human, or -1 TN for himself. Point 2 ( This is harder game Machanics ) Human decides on either making his TN -1 or the Trolls +1. Either easier for him to hit the Troll or harder for the troll to hit him. Troll decides on either making his TN -2 or the humans +2. Either easier for him to hit the human or harder for the human to hit him. Point 1 This is going to be a harder longer combat as the TN are higher giving the skilled combatant the upper hand. As TN 4 or more is harder to generate on limited number D6 Point 2 All this does is make a finer line of choice, in which case the Troll is going to give the human a beating because of reach reach modifiers of 2. ( Yea I know Pole arms add a Extra reach. That would make combat totally favour Troll) Summary. Would it not be better to use this formula. Troll reach +2 less the Human Reach +1 giving the Troll the favour of +1 Reach and TN. This make a fair way of combat. (To be corrected this is how the rule book explains it) |
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Johnson Stun Baton and Shock Gloves Oct 28 2004, 12:24 PM
Stumps QUOTE Would it not be better to use this formula. ... Oct 28 2004, 12:37 PM
Luke Hardison By canon, striking with a stun baton means your da... Oct 28 2004, 12:44 PM
Stumps perhaps the issue with the stun glove is one where... Oct 28 2004, 12:49 PM
Johnson QUOTE (Luke Hardison) This, to me, is very odd. T... Oct 28 2004, 01:14 PM
Johnson QUOTE (Stumps) perhaps the issue with the stun glo... Oct 28 2004, 01:19 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Johnson) Summary.
Would it not be better to... Oct 28 2004, 02:46 PM
Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Kagetenshi)Instance 2: You’re fighting a Pi... Oct 28 2004, 02:54 PM
Johnson Your point is taken. But in the fact of Troll with... Oct 28 2004, 02:56 PM
Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Luke Hardison @ Oct 28 2004, 02:44 PM... Oct 28 2004, 03:00 PM
Fortune As was already stated, the combatant with the net ... Oct 28 2004, 03:01 PM
Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Luke Hardison @ Oct 28 2004, 06:44 AM)... Oct 28 2004, 03:10 PM
mmu1 QUOTE (Fortune @ Oct 28 2004, 10:01 AM) As wa... Oct 28 2004, 03:13 PM
blakkie QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) QUOTE (Luke Hardison ... Oct 28 2004, 03:15 PM
Johnson 7S Normal Stun baton
8S for AZ 150
formalities, ... Oct 28 2004, 03:16 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Depends completely on ... Oct 28 2004, 03:20 PM
Doctor Funkenstein But a direct shock to a vulnerable area like the b... Oct 28 2004, 03:20 PM
Fortune QUOTE (mmu1) QUOTE (Fortune @ Oct 28 2004, 10... Oct 28 2004, 03:20 PM
Austere Emancipator QUOTE (mmu1)He can choose to distribute the reach ... Oct 28 2004, 03:21 PM
Nikoli I'd allow for called shots with a stun weapon,... Oct 28 2004, 03:22 PM
Stumps (ignore at will)Bah! called shots are a broken... Oct 28 2004, 03:25 PM
Doctor Funkenstein And to put it simply, if Stun Weapons were immune ... Oct 28 2004, 03:27 PM
Nikoli But with a called shot to raise the damage level t... Oct 28 2004, 03:37 PM
Doctor Funkenstein Assuming you'd ever hit. Which your average p... Oct 28 2004, 03:38 PM
Stumps QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) EDIT: Nope, called sho... Oct 28 2004, 03:49 PM
Kagetenshi Called shots for special effect are not broken.
~... Oct 28 2004, 04:08 PM
Stumps glitter.
The idea of having Aimed Shot and Called... Oct 28 2004, 04:16 PM
Doctor Funkenstein I have no problem with the standard Called Shots r... Oct 28 2004, 04:21 PM
Kagetenshi Why? Just because you’re going for the tires or th... Oct 28 2004, 04:22 PM
Stumps calling shots is mostly dumb to me.
why?
um...it... Oct 28 2004, 04:23 PM
Doctor Funkenstein In my opinion it represents a wild shot to a small... Oct 28 2004, 04:25 PM
Kagetenshi If you say “I shoot the van” it’s generally a give... Oct 28 2004, 04:27 PM
Stumps QUOTE In my opinion it represents a wild shot to a... Oct 28 2004, 04:28 PM
Kagetenshi That’s all well and good, but firing at John’s pis... Oct 28 2004, 04:30 PM
Stumps Shooting at a tire is an Aim. I'm sorry. It w... Oct 28 2004, 04:31 PM
Doctor Funkenstein Standard Called Shots do not allow aiming for a sp... Oct 28 2004, 04:31 PM
Kagetenshi If the vehicle in question is speeding away and I ... Oct 28 2004, 04:31 PM
Stumps QUOTE (Kagetenshi) That’s all well and good, but f... Oct 28 2004, 04:32 PM
Stumps I don't think I'll ever like called shots.... Oct 28 2004, 04:38 PM
Doctor Funkenstein Smartlink-2's are broken as far as Called Shot... Oct 28 2004, 04:43 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Stumps) um...isn't that why they say yo... Oct 28 2004, 04:44 PM
Stumps Kagetenshi: points up to post above yours where Do... Oct 28 2004, 04:49 PM
Stumps Oh yeah...my biggest reason for not liking Called ... Oct 28 2004, 04:52 PM
Doctor Funkenstein Armor's abstract nature is preserved with the ... Oct 28 2004, 04:55 PM
Stumps I never thought so...hmm...
yes, but why are my s... Oct 28 2004, 04:55 PM
Stumps The thing is..for called shots to start working, y... Oct 28 2004, 04:59 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Stumps) Kagetenshi: points up to post above... Oct 28 2004, 05:03 PM
Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Stumps @ Oct 28 2004, 10:55 AM) yes, b... Oct 28 2004, 05:04 PM
ES_Riddle So about those stun batons and trolls…
Stun baton... Oct 28 2004, 10:02 PM
durthang Enough friends in melee, and that riot cop troll i... Oct 29 2004, 12:12 AM
Luke Hardison QUOTE (ES_Riddle) So about those stun batons and t... Oct 29 2004, 12:37 AM
Cain Anyone with reach of 2 or more can ignore the shie... Oct 29 2004, 02:58 AM
ES_Riddle Don't forget the other riot cops. I didn't... Oct 29 2004, 05:10 AM
Johnson QUOTE (ES_Riddle) So about those stun batons and t... Oct 29 2004, 06:52 AM
Johnson QUOTE (durthang) Enough friends in melee, and that... Oct 29 2004, 06:56 AM
Johnson QUOTE (Luke Hardison)
Assuming that there are no... Oct 29 2004, 07:06 AM
Johnson QUOTE (Cain) Anyone with reach of 2 or more can ig... Oct 29 2004, 07:12 AM
Johnson QUOTE (ES_Riddle) Don't forget the other riot ... Oct 29 2004, 07:17 AM
Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Johnson) Okay I don't have BBB. So let ... Oct 29 2004, 07:21 AM
OurTeam BBB is lame. I think some use it because it makes ... Oct 29 2004, 08:10 AM
Johnson Well BBB (I have not read it). I will take your po... Oct 29 2004, 09:38 AM
Stumps QUOTE (Johnson @ Oct 29 2004, 09:38 AM) Well ... Oct 29 2004, 10:23 AM
Johnson Stumps, thank you for the clear up I appreciate it... Oct 29 2004, 10:40 AM
Stumps Ignore BBB. It's silly.
Mainly because at thi... Oct 29 2004, 11:32 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (OurTeam @ Oct 29 2004, 03:10 AM) BBB i... Oct 29 2004, 11:44 AM
Stumps ROTFL Oct 29 2004, 11:53 AM
Erebus QUOTE (OurTeam) BBB is lame. I think some use it b... Oct 29 2004, 03:25 PM
Johnson Why some use BBB and some use SR3. I would find SR... Nov 1 2004, 07:39 AM
Doctor Funkenstein It is. It's also what the books themselves us... Nov 1 2004, 07:41 AM
Stumps ROTFLMAO!!
You mean SR3 is CANON but no o... Nov 1 2004, 12:20 PM
Fortune BBB has been the unofficial acronym of the current... Nov 1 2004, 01:19 PM
JaronK I prefer BBB. Maybe it's because I'm used... Nov 1 2004, 01:37 PM
Johnson So when somebody say BBB it combines SR1 SR2 and S... Nov 1 2004, 01:48 PM
JaronK Not really. BBB means the current core rulebook. ... Nov 1 2004, 01:51 PM
toturi When I use BBB, I mean the Shadowrun 3rd Edition r... Nov 1 2004, 02:08 PM
Critias So, how 'bout them shock gloves? Nov 1 2004, 05:32 PM
Stumps They work great on a goons groin Nov 1 2004, 06:06 PM
Kagetenshi Shock kneepads?
~J Nov 1 2004, 06:08 PM
Stumps neat idea, but no. I just hit him by taking the i... Nov 1 2004, 06:21 PM
Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (JaronK @ Nov 1 2004, 07:51 AM) Not rea... Nov 2 2004, 04:52 AM
Johnson QUOTE (Critias) So, how 'bout them shock glove... Nov 2 2004, 06:59 AM
Doctor Funkenstein As far as I know the rules never specify, thus by ... Nov 2 2004, 07:03 AM
JaronK QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) QUOTE (JaronK @ No... Nov 2 2004, 01:41 PM
Stumps What I read in the book is that the Stun isn't... Nov 2 2004, 02:51 PM
Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (JaronK) If by a tiny little minority, you m... Nov 2 2004, 03:25 PM
Critias Boy howdy, this sure is worth arguin' over. Nov 2 2004, 08:16 PM
Johnson From a acronym list I found here at DSF. I found o... Nov 3 2004, 07:18 AM
Doctor Funkenstein Bleh! While that would help to some degree (e... Nov 3 2004, 07:20 AM
Stumps So, uh...3 posts up I tried to continue the conver... Nov 3 2004, 07:21 AM
Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Stumps) What I read in the book is that the... Nov 3 2004, 07:29 AM
Shadow Is there anyother weapon with a damage code that i... Nov 3 2004, 06:16 PM
Moon-Hawk Chemical attacks? Nov 3 2004, 06:26 PM
Doctor Funkenstein Chemical attacks specifically mention that they do... Nov 3 2004, 07:40 PM
Moon-Hawk Right. But the question was, "Is there anyot... Nov 3 2004, 07:43 PM
Stumps My reasons not in print, for not staging shock dam... Nov 3 2004, 11:07 PM
Johnson That what I say, and most of my group says. IF you... Nov 4 2004, 08:24 AM
Kremlin KOA actually stumps there are places where shocking so... Nov 4 2004, 11:46 AM
Johnson That would be like a called shot. As that is going... Nov 4 2004, 01:19 PM
Kagetenshi It would only be like a called shot if they were g... Nov 4 2004, 02:07 PM
TheScamp QUOTE That would be like a called shot.As that is ... Nov 4 2004, 09:07 PM![]() ![]() |
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