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post Oct 28 2004, 12:24 PM
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I have some interesting questions.

First -- Stun Batons
I strike an opponent with a Stun baton. I yield 2 successes more than my opponent. Damage of stun baton is 8S does the stun damage stage up to 8D

Second -- Shock Gloves
I strike an opponent with a Shock Gloves. I yield 2 successes more than my opponent. Damage of shock glove is 8S does the stun damage stage up to 8D as above.(the later would not be pertinent if successes doesn't changes shock damage)
As your physical damage also would increase (str)M stun to (str)S stun

Third -- Stun batons and Trolls
To determine TN for a Human and Troll. Human get +1 Reach(Stun Baton), Troll gets +2 Reach (Stun Baton and Nat. Reach).

Point 1 ( I believe is correct )
In saying that the Troll would either make the TN greater by +1 for human, or -1 TN for himself.

Point 2 ( This is harder game Machanics )

Human decides on either making his TN -1 or the Trolls +1. Either easier for him to hit the Troll or harder for the troll to hit him.

Troll decides on either making his TN -2 or the humans +2. Either easier for him to hit the human or harder for the human to hit him.

Point 1
This is going to be a harder longer combat as the TN are higher giving the skilled combatant the upper hand. As TN 4 or more is harder to generate on limited number D6

Point 2
All this does is make a finer line of choice, in which case the Troll is going to give the human a beating because of reach reach modifiers of 2. ( Yea I know Pole arms add a Extra reach. That would make combat totally favour Troll)

Summary.
Would it not be better to use this formula. Troll reach +2 less the Human Reach +1 giving the Troll the favour of +1 Reach and TN. This make a fair way of combat.
(To be corrected this is how the rule book explains it)
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- Johnson   Stun Baton and Shock Gloves   Oct 28 2004, 12:24 PM
- - Stumps   QUOTE Would it not be better to use this formula. ...   Oct 28 2004, 12:37 PM
- - Luke Hardison   By canon, striking with a stun baton means your da...   Oct 28 2004, 12:44 PM
- - Stumps   perhaps the issue with the stun glove is one where...   Oct 28 2004, 12:49 PM
- - Johnson   QUOTE (Luke Hardison) This, to me, is very odd. T...   Oct 28 2004, 01:14 PM
- - Johnson   QUOTE (Stumps) perhaps the issue with the stun glo...   Oct 28 2004, 01:19 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Johnson) Summary. Would it not be better to...   Oct 28 2004, 02:46 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)Instance 2: You’re fighting a Pi...   Oct 28 2004, 02:54 PM
- - Johnson   Your point is taken. But in the fact of Troll with...   Oct 28 2004, 02:56 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Luke Hardison @ Oct 28 2004, 02:44 PM...   Oct 28 2004, 03:00 PM
- - Fortune   As was already stated, the combatant with the net ...   Oct 28 2004, 03:01 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   QUOTE (Luke Hardison @ Oct 28 2004, 06:44 AM)...   Oct 28 2004, 03:10 PM
- - mmu1   QUOTE (Fortune @ Oct 28 2004, 10:01 AM) As wa...   Oct 28 2004, 03:13 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) QUOTE (Luke Hardison ...   Oct 28 2004, 03:15 PM
- - Johnson   7S Normal Stun baton 8S for AZ 150 formalities, ...   Oct 28 2004, 03:16 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Depends completely on ...   Oct 28 2004, 03:20 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   But a direct shock to a vulnerable area like the b...   Oct 28 2004, 03:20 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (mmu1) QUOTE (Fortune @ Oct 28 2004, 10...   Oct 28 2004, 03:20 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (mmu1)He can choose to distribute the reach ...   Oct 28 2004, 03:21 PM
- - Nikoli   I'd allow for called shots with a stun weapon,...   Oct 28 2004, 03:22 PM
- - Stumps   (ignore at will)Bah! called shots are a broken...   Oct 28 2004, 03:25 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   And to put it simply, if Stun Weapons were immune ...   Oct 28 2004, 03:27 PM
- - Nikoli   But with a called shot to raise the damage level t...   Oct 28 2004, 03:37 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Assuming you'd ever hit. Which your average p...   Oct 28 2004, 03:38 PM
- - Stumps   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) EDIT: Nope, called sho...   Oct 28 2004, 03:49 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Called shots for special effect are not broken. ~...   Oct 28 2004, 04:08 PM
- - Stumps   glitter. The idea of having Aimed Shot and Called...   Oct 28 2004, 04:16 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   I have no problem with the standard Called Shots r...   Oct 28 2004, 04:21 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Why? Just because you’re going for the tires or th...   Oct 28 2004, 04:22 PM
- - Stumps   calling shots is mostly dumb to me. why? um...it...   Oct 28 2004, 04:23 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   In my opinion it represents a wild shot to a small...   Oct 28 2004, 04:25 PM
- - Kagetenshi   If you say “I shoot the van” it’s generally a give...   Oct 28 2004, 04:27 PM
- - Stumps   QUOTE In my opinion it represents a wild shot to a...   Oct 28 2004, 04:28 PM
- - Kagetenshi   That’s all well and good, but firing at John’s pis...   Oct 28 2004, 04:30 PM
- - Stumps   Shooting at a tire is an Aim. I'm sorry. It w...   Oct 28 2004, 04:31 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Standard Called Shots do not allow aiming for a sp...   Oct 28 2004, 04:31 PM
- - Kagetenshi   If the vehicle in question is speeding away and I ...   Oct 28 2004, 04:31 PM
- - Stumps   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) That’s all well and good, but f...   Oct 28 2004, 04:32 PM
- - Stumps   I don't think I'll ever like called shots....   Oct 28 2004, 04:38 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Smartlink-2's are broken as far as Called Shot...   Oct 28 2004, 04:43 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Stumps) um...isn't that why they say yo...   Oct 28 2004, 04:44 PM
- - Stumps   Kagetenshi: points up to post above yours where Do...   Oct 28 2004, 04:49 PM
- - Stumps   Oh yeah...my biggest reason for not liking Called ...   Oct 28 2004, 04:52 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Armor's abstract nature is preserved with the ...   Oct 28 2004, 04:55 PM
- - Stumps   I never thought so...hmm... yes, but why are my s...   Oct 28 2004, 04:55 PM
- - Stumps   The thing is..for called shots to start working, y...   Oct 28 2004, 04:59 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Stumps) Kagetenshi: points up to post above...   Oct 28 2004, 05:03 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   QUOTE (Stumps @ Oct 28 2004, 10:55 AM) yes, b...   Oct 28 2004, 05:04 PM
- - ES_Riddle   So about those stun batons and trolls… Stun baton...   Oct 28 2004, 10:02 PM
- - durthang   Enough friends in melee, and that riot cop troll i...   Oct 29 2004, 12:12 AM
- - Luke Hardison   QUOTE (ES_Riddle) So about those stun batons and t...   Oct 29 2004, 12:37 AM
- - Cain   Anyone with reach of 2 or more can ignore the shie...   Oct 29 2004, 02:58 AM
- - ES_Riddle   Don't forget the other riot cops. I didn't...   Oct 29 2004, 05:10 AM
- - Johnson   QUOTE (ES_Riddle) So about those stun batons and t...   Oct 29 2004, 06:52 AM
- - Johnson   QUOTE (durthang) Enough friends in melee, and that...   Oct 29 2004, 06:56 AM
- - Johnson   QUOTE (Luke Hardison) Assuming that there are no...   Oct 29 2004, 07:06 AM
- - Johnson   QUOTE (Cain) Anyone with reach of 2 or more can ig...   Oct 29 2004, 07:12 AM
- - Johnson   QUOTE (ES_Riddle) Don't forget the other riot ...   Oct 29 2004, 07:17 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   QUOTE (Johnson) Okay I don't have BBB. So let ...   Oct 29 2004, 07:21 AM
- - OurTeam   BBB is lame. I think some use it because it makes ...   Oct 29 2004, 08:10 AM
- - Johnson   Well BBB (I have not read it). I will take your po...   Oct 29 2004, 09:38 AM
- - Stumps   QUOTE (Johnson @ Oct 29 2004, 09:38 AM) Well ...   Oct 29 2004, 10:23 AM
- - Johnson   Stumps, thank you for the clear up I appreciate it...   Oct 29 2004, 10:40 AM
- - Stumps   Ignore BBB. It's silly. Mainly because at thi...   Oct 29 2004, 11:32 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (OurTeam @ Oct 29 2004, 03:10 AM) BBB i...   Oct 29 2004, 11:44 AM
- - Stumps   ROTFL   Oct 29 2004, 11:53 AM
- - Erebus   QUOTE (OurTeam) BBB is lame. I think some use it b...   Oct 29 2004, 03:25 PM
- - Johnson   Why some use BBB and some use SR3. I would find SR...   Nov 1 2004, 07:39 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   It is. It's also what the books themselves us...   Nov 1 2004, 07:41 AM
- - Stumps   ROTFLMAO!! You mean SR3 is CANON but no o...   Nov 1 2004, 12:20 PM
- - Fortune   BBB has been the unofficial acronym of the current...   Nov 1 2004, 01:19 PM
- - JaronK   I prefer BBB. Maybe it's because I'm used...   Nov 1 2004, 01:37 PM
- - Johnson   So when somebody say BBB it combines SR1 SR2 and S...   Nov 1 2004, 01:48 PM
- - JaronK   Not really. BBB means the current core rulebook. ...   Nov 1 2004, 01:51 PM
- - toturi   When I use BBB, I mean the Shadowrun 3rd Edition r...   Nov 1 2004, 02:08 PM
- - Critias   So, how 'bout them shock gloves?   Nov 1 2004, 05:32 PM
- - Stumps   They work great on a goons groin   Nov 1 2004, 06:06 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Shock kneepads? ~J   Nov 1 2004, 06:08 PM
- - Stumps   neat idea, but no. I just hit him by taking the i...   Nov 1 2004, 06:21 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   QUOTE (JaronK @ Nov 1 2004, 07:51 AM) Not rea...   Nov 2 2004, 04:52 AM
- - Johnson   QUOTE (Critias) So, how 'bout them shock glove...   Nov 2 2004, 06:59 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   As far as I know the rules never specify, thus by ...   Nov 2 2004, 07:03 AM
- - JaronK   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) QUOTE (JaronK @ No...   Nov 2 2004, 01:41 PM
- - Stumps   What I read in the book is that the Stun isn't...   Nov 2 2004, 02:51 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   QUOTE (JaronK) If by a tiny little minority, you m...   Nov 2 2004, 03:25 PM
- - Critias   Boy howdy, this sure is worth arguin' over.   Nov 2 2004, 08:16 PM
- - Johnson   From a acronym list I found here at DSF. I found o...   Nov 3 2004, 07:18 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Bleh! While that would help to some degree (e...   Nov 3 2004, 07:20 AM
- - Stumps   So, uh...3 posts up I tried to continue the conver...   Nov 3 2004, 07:21 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   QUOTE (Stumps) What I read in the book is that the...   Nov 3 2004, 07:29 AM
- - Shadow   Is there anyother weapon with a damage code that i...   Nov 3 2004, 06:16 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Chemical attacks?   Nov 3 2004, 06:26 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Chemical attacks specifically mention that they do...   Nov 3 2004, 07:40 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Right. But the question was, "Is there anyot...   Nov 3 2004, 07:43 PM
- - Stumps   My reasons not in print, for not staging shock dam...   Nov 3 2004, 11:07 PM
- - Johnson   That what I say, and most of my group says. IF you...   Nov 4 2004, 08:24 AM
- - Kremlin KOA   actually stumps there are places where shocking so...   Nov 4 2004, 11:46 AM
- - Johnson   That would be like a called shot. As that is going...   Nov 4 2004, 01:19 PM
- - Kagetenshi   It would only be like a called shot if they were g...   Nov 4 2004, 02:07 PM
- - TheScamp   QUOTE That would be like a called shot.As that is ...   Nov 4 2004, 09:07 PM
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