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tisoz
post Nov 17 2004, 09:19 PM
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Had something interesting come up with a new group. Never had it happen before. A player wants to pay for his cyberware and bioware out of starting resources, but doesn't want to have them be pre-installed. Seems he read the back of M&M and saw he could probably get an essence/bio index reduction (looks like a good possibility especially with a karma re-roll) by having them done in game. He hasn't asked for the surgery to be "free", as I've never figured in extra cost for surgery when someone gets cyber or bio at chargen before.

What would you rule?

What if he asks for the surgery to be prefigured into the cost of the 'ware?

He has contacts and story, everything makes sense, somewhat. I've just never had it come up before.

One problem I see is him missing the first adventure. Even this isn't written in stone though. He may get magical healing and be fine in a day. Which brings up another question. Does first aid apply to wounds sustained by surgery?

The other idea was to backdate the surgery to give hime time to recover. Essentially, his character starts a month, or however long, before the first adventure and gets charged lifestyle for the time.

Thoughts are welcome.
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- tisoz   Implants at chargen   Nov 17 2004, 09:19 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   "Cheaper" impant essence cost and ...   Nov 17 2004, 10:09 PM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   Let him pay extra for non-standard pre-game surgic...   Nov 17 2004, 10:10 PM
- - Shadow   I would say let him buy them at a reduces cost (si...   Nov 17 2004, 10:15 PM
- - Tanka   Buying 'ware in-game doesn't give a discou...   Nov 17 2004, 10:17 PM
- - Teulisch   Well.. no reason you cant, but bioware is organic ...   Nov 17 2004, 10:22 PM
- - FlakJacket   QUOTE (tisoz)He hasn't asked for the surgery t...   Nov 17 2004, 10:22 PM
- - Rev   He should probably read those rules again also. I...   Nov 17 2004, 11:15 PM
- - Da9iel   TN for an implant 4 -1 for a clinic What's so...   Nov 17 2004, 11:50 PM
- - BitBasher   This would cost an ASSLOAD of cash. Each implant ...   Nov 17 2004, 11:52 PM
- - JaronK   I don't see why people think it's so hard ...   Nov 18 2004, 12:07 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Rev) He should probably read those rules ag...   Nov 18 2004, 12:15 AM
- - JaronK   I don't think you can stack Essence Reductions...   Nov 18 2004, 12:18 AM
- - BitBasher   Well, off the top of my head you're missing th...   Nov 18 2004, 12:22 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (BitBasher @ Nov 17 2004, 07:22 PM) Wel...   Nov 18 2004, 12:42 AM
- - Da9iel   BitBasher: But it's not an open roll, its a su...   Nov 18 2004, 12:44 AM
- - Da9iel   tisoz: In the paragraph about negative options, th...   Nov 18 2004, 12:48 AM
- - ES_Riddle   Since this is a starting character, the easiest op...   Nov 18 2004, 02:16 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (ES_Riddle)Since this is a starting characte...   Nov 18 2004, 03:48 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   You guys know what the real trick is, right? Pay ...   Nov 18 2004, 03:53 AM
- - Da9iel   At which point the GM thwaps you on the nose. Bad ...   Nov 18 2004, 03:58 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   "Bad dog?!" How dare you talk to me...   Nov 18 2004, 04:02 AM
- - Da9iel   The worlds smartest baby was born talking. The fir...   Nov 18 2004, 04:09 AM
- - tisoz   I don't think I want to propose taking them as...   Nov 18 2004, 04:11 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   It's not a proposition. It's a canonical ...   Nov 18 2004, 04:22 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein @ Nov 17 2004, 11:2...   Nov 18 2004, 04:35 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   No. Humor, much like emoticons, are highly overra...   Nov 18 2004, 04:36 AM
- - Voran   Is there a limit on how many implants you can put ...   Nov 18 2004, 05:39 AM
- - ES_Riddle   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) You guys know what the ...   Nov 18 2004, 05:51 AM
- - Da9iel   Yes, it is explicitly stated. The Doctor, however,...   Nov 18 2004, 06:04 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Voran) Is there a limit on how many implant...   Nov 18 2004, 06:40 AM
- - ES_Riddle   QUOTE (Da9iel) Yes, it is explicitly stated. The D...   Nov 18 2004, 08:04 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (ES_Riddle) QUOTE (Da9iel @ Nov 18 2004...   Nov 18 2004, 10:05 AM
- - ES_Riddle   QUOTE (toturi) There should be no fairplay on the ...   Nov 18 2004, 10:59 AM
- - Fortune   How is it cheating? If the GM approves the charact...   Nov 18 2004, 12:10 PM
- - toturi   QUOTE (ES_Riddle @ Nov 18 2004, 06:59 PM) How...   Nov 18 2004, 12:19 PM
- - BitBasher   Heh, I just tell the PC "If you take that, NP...   Nov 18 2004, 04:29 PM
- - ES_Riddle   QUOTE (toturi) Here is where I differ from you. If...   Nov 18 2004, 04:34 PM
- - Fortune   The thing is, it isn't 'at no cost'. I...   Nov 18 2004, 05:25 PM
- - Rev   OK time for some examples: Joe Blow the wanabe de...   Nov 18 2004, 06:46 PM
- - Da9iel   Very good, except that positive options don't ...   Nov 18 2004, 09:48 PM
- - BitBasher   Actually i'm 99% sure positive options DO incr...   Nov 18 2004, 10:13 PM
- - Rev   Ahh good, I didn't see that part on pg144 abou...   Nov 18 2004, 10:35 PM
- - ES_Riddle   QUOTE (Fortune) The thing is, it isn't 'at...   Nov 18 2004, 11:14 PM
- - toturi   I don't find it abusive. You forget: QUOTE A c...   Nov 18 2004, 11:29 PM
- - SpeedFreak   QUOTE The magnitude of the cyber or bioware implan...   Nov 19 2004, 12:47 AM
- - Da9iel   Or to take a nod at canon, consider what the the b...   Nov 19 2004, 12:53 AM
- - ES_Riddle   QUOTE (toturi) I don't find it abusive. You fo...   Nov 19 2004, 03:39 AM
- - Tanka   A lot of people read that as "five points goi...   Nov 19 2004, 03:44 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   It's five edges and/or five flaws, max of a +6...   Nov 19 2004, 03:49 AM
- - Fortune   Officially, I believe it's no more than 5 Edge...   Nov 19 2004, 03:51 AM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (Fortune) Officially, I believe it's no ...   Nov 19 2004, 04:55 PM
- - ES_Riddle   If they intended 6 as the limiting number of build...   Nov 19 2004, 07:58 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   It's amazing how when you point things like th...   Nov 19 2004, 08:04 PM
- - Shockwave_IIc   QUOTE (ES_Riddle) If they intended 6 as the limiti...   Nov 19 2004, 09:04 PM
- - ES_Riddle   QUOTE (Shockwave_IIc) QUOTE (ES_Riddle @ Nov ...   Nov 20 2004, 05:31 AM


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