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Kyuhan
post Jan 17 2005, 03:40 AM
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I found this power on the net, (Here's the link);

Regeneration (5, 7 or 9)
This power functions exactly as detailed in the official material. The first level is the lesser version described for Shapeshifters in their human form in the Shadowrun Companion. The second level is that described for shapeshifters in their animal form in the Shadowrun Companion (shapeshifters can update their human form'' healing capability to this level for a cost of 1.5). The third level is the version found in SR2. Shapeshifters may update their healing abilities for two points, which moves the healing powers of both shapes up one level (the human form healing at the animal rate, the animal form healing at the SR2 rate).. Common geasa include certain types of damage that can't be regenerated (fire or silver being common), or particularly vulnerable places the don't heal well (such as the Achilles tendon or the neck).


Anyhoo, does anyone think this power lacks balance in effectiveness or cost?
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- Kyuhan   Regen   Jan 17 2005, 03:40 AM
- - hyzmarca   Well, since I don't have SR2 I can honestly sa...   Jan 17 2005, 03:49 AM
- - cbettles   I would be really careful with that power and only...   Jan 17 2005, 03:55 AM
- - mfb   something like this is "balanced" the sa...   Jan 17 2005, 04:26 AM
- - Crimson Jack   Aye. There's no need for something that beefy...   Jan 17 2005, 04:29 AM
- - Kagetenshi   I'm not sure the difference between the human-...   Jan 17 2005, 05:42 AM
- - Fortune   I'd consider making it 6 Points, so that takin...   Jan 17 2005, 06:15 AM
- - Kagetenshi   My thinking with the eight power points was somewh...   Jan 17 2005, 06:21 AM
- - Wounded Ronin   Crazy internet physad powers.   Jan 17 2005, 06:27 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Fortune) I'd consider making it 6 Point...   Jan 17 2005, 06:29 AM
- - Fortune   Whatever. 'Only when injured' is quite f...   Jan 17 2005, 06:36 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (toturi) QUOTE (Fortune @ Jan 17 2005, ...   Jan 17 2005, 06:36 AM
- - Kagetenshi   By the same token, "the building next to you ...   Jan 17 2005, 06:36 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) By the same token, "the bu...   Jan 17 2005, 06:40 AM
- - Fortune   The only 'canon' Geasa are the ones listed...   Jan 17 2005, 06:46 AM
- - toturi   Those are suggested Canon guidelines and other gui...   Jan 17 2005, 06:50 AM
- - Fortune   Even given that the Geas is canon, it would not be...   Jan 17 2005, 06:52 AM
- - Club   QUOTE (toturi) QUOTE (Fortune @ Jan 17 2005, ...   Jan 17 2005, 06:57 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (toturi) How did you calculate that each ind...   Jan 17 2005, 07:00 AM
- - toturi   True, my mistake. It could be a "condition ge...   Jan 17 2005, 07:02 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Jan 17 2005, 03:00 PM) QU...   Jan 17 2005, 07:04 AM
- - Fortune   Actually, canon states ... QUOTE (Mits. page 32) ...   Jan 17 2005, 07:11 AM
- - Crimson Jack   QUOTE (Fortune) Therefore it is a Cheese Geas™, as...   Jan 17 2005, 07:21 AM
- - toturi   Why is being injured inconsistant with performing ...   Jan 17 2005, 07:21 AM
- - Fortune   It isn't. Being uninjured is. Even taking you...   Jan 17 2005, 07:28 AM
- - Fortune   Most of the listed canon examples do not affect a ...   Jan 17 2005, 07:33 AM
- - Crimson Jack   Besides all the rules wrangling, the spirit of why...   Jan 17 2005, 07:35 AM
- - toturi   Do you lose the Regeneration ability when you are ...   Jan 17 2005, 07:37 AM
- - Crimson Jack   *pitching the character* GM: So I see that you...   Jan 17 2005, 07:42 AM
- - toturi   <slap back with the MitS> It follows all the...   Jan 17 2005, 07:44 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE You are already paying 75% of the cost(for v...   Jan 17 2005, 07:46 AM
- - toturi   It limits the power to the time at which it is use...   Jan 17 2005, 07:48 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (toturi @ Jan 17 2005, 02:44 AM) <sl...   Jan 17 2005, 07:49 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (toturi) It limits the power to the time at ...   Jan 17 2005, 07:52 AM
- - Fortune   The Power is only ever useful when you are injured...   Jan 17 2005, 07:53 AM
- - toturi   You can't even implant. Since any attempt to i...   Jan 17 2005, 07:54 AM
- - Crimson Jack   QUOTE (toturi) <slap back with the MitS> It ...   Jan 17 2005, 07:57 AM
- - DocMortand   *gets out trench shovel and starts digging foxhole...   Jan 17 2005, 08:00 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Fortune) The Power is only ever useful when...   Jan 17 2005, 08:01 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Crimson Jack @ Jan 17 2005, 03:57 PM) ...   Jan 17 2005, 08:02 AM
- - Crimson Jack   toturi, I've read your sig before and I've...   Jan 17 2005, 08:05 AM
- - toturi   I check my common sense at the door when I play SR...   Jan 17 2005, 08:08 AM
- - Crimson Jack   Alright, point taken. RPG's by the very natur...   Jan 17 2005, 08:11 AM
- - toturi   As a GM, I wouldn't allow such a geas. But as ...   Jan 17 2005, 08:14 AM
- - Fortune   toturi, can you give me an example of just when th...   Jan 17 2005, 08:16 AM
- - Crimson Jack   QUOTE (toturi) As a GM, I wouldn't allow such ...   Jan 17 2005, 08:19 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Fortune) toturi, can you give me an example...   Jan 17 2005, 08:26 AM
- - Fortune   It doesn't 'fail to work' when uninjur...   Jan 17 2005, 08:33 AM
- - Dissonance   Well, I think that Regeneration doesn't work w...   Jan 17 2005, 08:35 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (toturi) QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Jan 17 200...   Jan 17 2005, 08:37 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Fortune) It doesn't 'fail to work...   Jan 17 2005, 08:51 AM
- - Fortune   Ok, then I'll once again re-word the question....   Jan 17 2005, 09:07 AM
- - toturi   Non wound Attribute Damage. Attribute damage is us...   Jan 17 2005, 09:17 AM
- - Club   Upon due thought, the power should cost at least 5...   Jan 17 2005, 10:08 AM
- - Kagetenshi   You may think it should be removed by regen, but i...   Jan 17 2005, 10:22 AM
- - toturi   OK, by the wording in Critters, all damage is remo...   Jan 17 2005, 10:50 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Toturi)So even Attribute damage is also rem...   Jan 17 2005, 11:11 AM
- - Fortune   What damage? If all Attribute damage is removed by...   Jan 17 2005, 11:16 AM
- - toturi   No, Under Wound Effects - Attribute Damage. Damage...   Jan 17 2005, 11:57 AM
- - Canid13   Another issue which may come up is the new Power i...   Jan 17 2005, 12:26 PM
- - Botch   Only works when injured? Then the first wound is ...   Jan 17 2005, 12:47 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (MitS page 32)A geasa... should not duplicat...   Jan 17 2005, 02:41 PM
- - toturi   QUOTE (mfb) QUOTE (MitS page 32)A geasa... should ...   Jan 17 2005, 02:48 PM
- - mfb   not by canon, it doesn't. the rules only menti...   Jan 17 2005, 02:52 PM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Critters p13)Regeneration A creature with ...   Jan 17 2005, 03:17 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (SR3 page 125)Types of Injury in Shadowrun D...   Jan 17 2005, 03:58 PM
- - SirKodiak   QUOTE As a GM, I wouldn't allow such a geas. ...   Jan 17 2005, 09:43 PM
- - toturi   What is the geas? "Must be injured". Unl...   Jan 18 2005, 01:36 AM
- - Fortune   You are only breaking the Geas when trying to use ...   Jan 18 2005, 01:49 AM
- - toturi   You can be breaking the geas even when not using M...   Jan 18 2005, 01:56 AM
- - Fortune   You only break the Fasting Geas if you try to use ...   Jan 18 2005, 03:02 AM
- - toturi   If you break the geas, but did not use Magic, it d...   Jan 18 2005, 03:30 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Fortune) You only break the Fasting Geas if...   Jan 18 2005, 05:02 AM
- - mfb   it doesn't matter, regardless. SR3 does not ex...   Jan 18 2005, 05:39 AM
- - toturi   The only built in limitation that I know by Canon ...   Jan 18 2005, 05:47 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) That isn't actually true. A...   Jan 18 2005, 06:51 AM
- - Kagetenshi   That's true. It is broken without being infrin...   Jan 18 2005, 06:55 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Fortune @ Jan 18 2005, 02:51 PM) And y...   Jan 18 2005, 07:23 AM
- - Fortune   I must be remembering this strangely-worded tidbit...   Jan 18 2005, 07:45 AM
- - toturi   Then by that wording, breaking your geas is breaki...   Jan 18 2005, 08:08 AM
- - Fortune   Then a person with a Fasting Geas is truly screwed...   Jan 18 2005, 08:31 AM
- - toturi   It states what tests are not subjet to geasa and t...   Jan 18 2005, 08:40 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE MitS pg. 33: Geasa only affect a character...   Jan 18 2005, 08:49 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Fortune @ Jan 18 2005, 04:49 PM) QUOTE...   Jan 18 2005, 09:05 AM
- - Nion   Geas on a spell: Must be using Sorcery.   Jan 18 2005, 12:53 PM
- - Demosthenes   QUOTE (Fortune) I must be remembering this strange...   Jan 18 2005, 01:30 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Fortune) Then a person with a Fasting Geas ...   Jan 18 2005, 04:51 PM
- - Tarantula   You could always have nutrients injected through a...   Jan 18 2005, 05:24 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (toturi)Stress is damage but not injury. It ...   Jan 18 2005, 05:36 PM
- - SirKodiak   QUOTE What is the geas? "Must be injured...   Jan 18 2005, 05:37 PM
- - mfb   good point. the only-when-uninjured geas is broken...   Jan 18 2005, 05:39 PM
- - Tarantula   Could have 1 level of pain resistance and just alw...   Jan 18 2005, 05:41 PM
- - mfb   doesn't work. you're still injured, you...   Jan 18 2005, 05:47 PM
- - Tarantula   Yes, you're injured, which leaves you injured ...   Jan 18 2005, 05:58 PM
- - mfb   except that the regen will heal that injury within...   Jan 18 2005, 06:10 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Stun. Doesn't regenerate. ~J   Jan 18 2005, 06:19 PM
- - mfb   i don't believe that's correct, though i d...   Jan 18 2005, 06:26 PM
- - Tarantula   Where is the critters pdf? I was going off what o...   Jan 18 2005, 07:38 PM
- - Jrayjoker   Free download at shadowrunrpg.com   Jan 18 2005, 07:39 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Ah, how odd… I was pretty sure it was specified fo...   Jan 18 2005, 07:42 PM
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