 The Indestructable Leopard III, Call in the big guns... |
 Feb 8 2005, 11:13 PM
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I just got SOTA:2063 a week or two ago and just loved the mercenaries section. I was also very happy to see some new heavy hitters in the vehicle department, but one thing bothered me and I'm sure it has been discussed before but:
The Leopard III tank has an armor rating of 40! When I saw this, the first thing I did was to grab Rigger 3 and check out the AV weapons. The biggest non-naval weapon I could find was 20D (AV). Still just not quite enough to dent this puppy. Now, lets say one of my characters gets ahold of one of these (not gonna happen, but we'll say he does). How do I kill him without calling in the USS Missouri? They may as well just give the thing a Hull and Bulwark rating and make it easy on us, instead of having to convert naval to normal damage to kill it. |
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FrostyNSO The Indestructable Leopard III Feb 8 2005, 11:13 PM
Crimsondude 2.0 I hear IEDs are good at disabling them. Feb 8 2005, 11:14 PM Kagetenshi It's a main battle tank. If someone gets ahold... Feb 8 2005, 11:16 PM shadow_scholar While I don't have the SOTA 2063, and I'm ... Feb 8 2005, 11:22 PM sidartha Providing the Leopard is being shot with AV ammuni... Feb 8 2005, 11:23 PM Nath There are actually weapons with naval damage code ... Feb 8 2005, 11:25 PM BitBasher QUOTE (sidartha) Providing the Leopard is being sh... Feb 8 2005, 11:30 PM The Grifter QUOTE it's not that hard to kill a vehicle wi... Feb 8 2005, 11:33 PM BitBasher It's okay Grifter, he is wrong, the attack bou... Feb 8 2005, 11:35 PM hobgoblin and thats compareable to real life. if you want to... Feb 8 2005, 11:36 PM The Grifter Mines under the tank might take out the treads and... Feb 8 2005, 11:37 PM hobgoblin but is sr it will either kill the tank outright or... Feb 8 2005, 11:45 PM The Grifter Boo, I say. Feb 8 2005, 11:46 PM BitBasher QUOTE (hobgoblin) but is sr it will either kill th... Feb 8 2005, 11:46 PM The Grifter Awesome. If you're not safe in a tank, where C... Feb 8 2005, 11:48 PM FrostyNSO What is the minimum naval damage that will drop it... Feb 8 2005, 11:49 PM toturi Just Call Shot to bypass armour. Like Kage said...... Feb 8 2005, 11:56 PM RunnerPaul It's ok. Just wait for SotA:2065, and perhaps ... Feb 8 2005, 11:58 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (BitBasher) Any attack with a power less tha... Feb 9 2005, 12:00 AM shadow_scholar QUOTE (The Grifter @ Feb 8 2005, 06:33 PM) He... Feb 9 2005, 12:03 AM grendel Barret 121 fires an APDS round that does 14D. It ... Feb 9 2005, 12:06 AM The Grifter QUOTE It's ok. Just wait for SotA:2065, and p... Feb 9 2005, 12:07 AM FrostyNSO *nevermind Feb 9 2005, 12:07 AM Da9iel How big would a mine be to achieve a successful ch... Feb 9 2005, 12:07 AM The Grifter An AV mine. Or a bouncing Betty, although those a... Feb 9 2005, 12:11 AM grendel Check this out for data on current US anti-tank mi... Feb 9 2005, 12:15 AM Dancer When browsing through the archives I saw some stat... Feb 9 2005, 12:33 AM Rev QUOTE (hobgoblin) and thats compareable to real li... Feb 9 2005, 12:37 AM Cochise QUOTE (Rev @ Feb 9 2005, 02:37 AM) Thus the q... Feb 9 2005, 12:39 AM FrostyNSO Anybody care to post the naval to normal damage co... Feb 9 2005, 12:42 AM FlakJacket QUOTE (Rev) What's the damage on the main weap... Feb 9 2005, 12:53 AM Kagetenshi 8MN translates to 24 (AV) MN, which means that it ... Feb 9 2005, 12:58 AM Crimson Jack How to Break Into a Moving Tank 101:
a) Turn on ... Feb 9 2005, 01:02 AM kevyn668 QUOTE (FrostyNSO @ Feb 8 2005, 06:13 PM) Now,... Feb 9 2005, 01:12 AM FrostyNSO Hell, if your gonna armor a tank, go ahead and lac... Feb 9 2005, 01:21 AM Crimson Jack Are these things all grounded so that electrical s... Feb 9 2005, 01:25 AM James McMurray An elemental spell would have to be force 41 to af... Feb 9 2005, 01:32 AM Crimson Jack Is that the way it works with the secondary effect... Feb 9 2005, 01:34 AM Tarantula With vehicles, the primary damage has to affect it... Feb 9 2005, 01:39 AM James McMurray Yep. If the spell's force does not exceed the ... Feb 9 2005, 01:39 AM James McMurray I would also invest in a ward for the thing, to pr... Feb 9 2005, 01:44 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE (kevyn668) Send Elemental of choice on the a... Feb 9 2005, 01:46 AM Dancer QUOTE (Kanada Ten) QUOTE (kevyn668 @ Feb 8 20... Feb 9 2005, 01:49 AM Crimson Jack QUOTE (James McMurray) Yep. If the spell's for... Feb 9 2005, 02:01 AM hobgoblin wards and fab will not stop a spirit if it comes d... Feb 9 2005, 02:02 AM Kagetenshi Three Force 6 Elementals cost 24,000 at market pri... Feb 9 2005, 02:03 AM James McMurray That's one way to go, but remember that it mak... Feb 9 2005, 02:04 AM hobgoblin that depends, if your going after a high initiate ... Feb 9 2005, 02:09 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE wards and fab will not stop a spirit if it c... Feb 9 2005, 02:12 AM Crimson Jack QUOTE (Kanada Ten) QUOTE wards and fab will not st... Feb 9 2005, 02:15 AM James McMurray IMO they shouldn't have anything that can stop... Feb 9 2005, 02:18 AM hobgoblin one tank they may be able to stop, but good lock s... Feb 9 2005, 02:20 AM shadow_scholar A strong magician can crack a ward. As for the Fa... Feb 9 2005, 02:22 AM Crimson Jack QUOTE (James McMurray) IMO they shouldn't have... Feb 9 2005, 02:24 AM Foreigner How about trying a called shot with a Panther Assa... Feb 9 2005, 02:24 AM hobgoblin i think sterilize is listed as a way to remove the... Feb 9 2005, 02:25 AM Crimson Jack QUOTE (hobgoblin) i think sterilize is listed as a... Feb 9 2005, 02:26 AM shadow_scholar QUOTE (hobgoblin) i think sterilize is listed as a... Feb 9 2005, 02:28 AM Kanada Ten Sterilize is a physical spell, though manaball wou... Feb 9 2005, 02:31 AM James McMurray QUOTE (Crimson Jack) So, you're saying that no... Feb 9 2005, 02:40 AM BitBasher I'll say it. I don't think there's any... Feb 9 2005, 02:47 AM FrostyNSO What about ordering a high-powered earth elemental... Feb 9 2005, 02:49 AM Kanada Ten Earth Elementals don't have the Shape Earth po... Feb 9 2005, 02:54 AM FrostyNSO hmmmmm, what about great form earth elementals? Feb 9 2005, 02:55 AM Crimson Jack QUOTE (BitBasher) I'll say it. I don't thi... Feb 9 2005, 03:04 AM shadow_scholar What about white phosphorus or acid, couldn't ... Feb 9 2005, 03:07 AM FrostyNSO That's a tall order, but I think armor degrada... Feb 9 2005, 03:10 AM Dancer QUOTE (Crimson Jack) [QUOTE=BitBasher,Feb 8 2005, ... Feb 9 2005, 03:14 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE (FrostyNSO) That's a tall order, but I t... Feb 9 2005, 03:16 AM kevyn668 QUOTE (Kanada Ten)QUOTE (kevyn668 @ Feb 8 200... Feb 9 2005, 03:22 AM Kanada Ten Can you find a single canon reference of elemental... Feb 9 2005, 03:24 AM BitBasher QUOTE My solution is perfiectly viable. Since no o... Feb 9 2005, 03:28 AM Dancer QUOTE (Kanada Ten) QUOTE (FrostyNSO @ Feb 8 2... Feb 9 2005, 03:28 AM kevyn668 QUOTE Can you find a single canon reference of ele... Feb 9 2005, 03:28 AM Club I thought I remembered this:
Fields of fire, the ... Feb 9 2005, 03:30 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE Urm...Why do I have to?
You don't have t... Feb 9 2005, 03:31 AM kevyn668 QUOTE (BitBasher)QUOTE My solution is perfiectly v... Feb 9 2005, 03:32 AM Kanada Ten Who the frag said "comes with"? Try out... Feb 9 2005, 03:35 AM mfb i don't see any modern army being short-sighte... Feb 9 2005, 03:38 AM Senelif QUOTE (mfb) i don't see any modern army being ... Feb 9 2005, 03:42 AM kevyn668 QUOTE You don't have to. I provided an equally... Feb 9 2005, 03:42 AM kevyn668 QUOTE (mfb) i don't see any modern army being ... Feb 9 2005, 03:43 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE (kevyn668 @ Feb 8 2005, 10:42 PM) No, y... Feb 9 2005, 03:47 AM BitBasher QUOTE (kevyn668) QUOTE (BitBasher)QUOTE My solutio... Feb 9 2005, 03:53 AM kevyn668 Did I piss you off or something? I don't know ... Feb 9 2005, 03:58 AM kevyn668 QUOTE It doesn't also say that most TIR ghosts... Feb 9 2005, 04:02 AM Kanada Ten I prefaced it with "I hope I get banned... Feb 9 2005, 04:04 AM FrostyNSO QUOTE (kevyn668 @ Feb 8 2005, 10:42 PM) But s... Feb 9 2005, 04:12 AM kevyn668 QUOTE (Kanada Ten)I prefaced it with "I hope ... Feb 9 2005, 04:12 AM Kagetenshi By canon, the controls do come with armor
Or if ... Feb 9 2005, 04:14 AM FrostyNSO Anybody find out if great form Earth elementals ha... Feb 9 2005, 04:15 AM Kanada Ten I assumed you meant the "remote controls... Feb 9 2005, 04:16 AM kevyn668 QUOTE (Kagetenshi) By canon, the controls do come ... Feb 9 2005, 04:16 AM kevyn668 QUOTE (Kanada Ten) You're going to call the sh... Feb 9 2005, 04:18 AM mfb kevyn, it's an intelligent tactic. it's pe... Feb 9 2005, 04:19 AM Kanada Ten Where it says "all attacks not considered ant... Feb 9 2005, 04:20 AM Kagetenshi QUOTE (kevyn668) QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Feb 8 20... Feb 9 2005, 04:27 AM kevyn668 I guess we have an aswer then. Save up and buy the... Feb 9 2005, 04:30 AM kevyn668 Edit: Nevermind. Feb 9 2005, 04:34 AM
Kanada Ten QUOTE (kevyn668) I guess we have an aswer then. Sa... Feb 9 2005, 04:40 AM  |
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