 High initiative vs. Multiple opponents, a house rule... |
 Feb 15 2005, 02:07 PM
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Most of us have read the girl scouts vs. killer adept example, showing how anybody will lose against a full complement of melee opponents, almost regardless of skill or physical attributes. In addition to that, most of us have read the relatively common threads on how intiative has an unnecessarily low impact on melee combat.
Maybe the two have a place together. Surely someone who was really on the ball intitative-wise would have some advantage against a group of assailants. Does this sound like a viable concept, has anybody house-ruled this, or could anybody suggest viable mechanics to demonstrate this? |
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Tziluthi High initiative vs. Multiple opponents Feb 15 2005, 02:07 PM
Gyro the Greek Sandwich Pirate At the moment, I'm seeing how it goes by divid... Feb 15 2005, 02:19 PM GentlemanLoser I've not read the Girl Scout example, but coul... Feb 15 2005, 02:19 PM Shockwave_IIc QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) I've not read the Girl ... Feb 15 2005, 02:21 PM GentlemanLoser Or here's a quick house rule that has just occ... Feb 15 2005, 02:25 PM Jebu That +1 TN / combat phaze with no actions sounds q... Feb 15 2005, 02:35 PM Fortune QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) Have a defender gain a cumu... Feb 15 2005, 02:59 PM GentlemanLoser That's a good rule. Feb 15 2005, 03:06 PM BitBasher That's also wholly silly IMHO, since the act o... Feb 15 2005, 04:30 PM GentlemanLoser And in many, many cases the act of avoiding attack... Feb 15 2005, 04:39 PM Fortune QUOTE (BitBasher) That's also wholly silly IMH... Feb 15 2005, 05:03 PM Brazila On a side note, I don't know about everyone el... Feb 15 2005, 05:17 PM BitBasher QUOTE (GentlemanLoser @ Feb 15 2005, 09:39 AM... Feb 15 2005, 05:29 PM Apathy QUOTE I've not read the Girl Scout example,...... Feb 15 2005, 05:34 PM shadow_scholar But the girlscouts kicking the snot out of the lon... Feb 15 2005, 06:06 PM GentlemanLoser "Only if you suck. "
LOL!
Or if y... Feb 15 2005, 06:15 PM Brazila I am no Bruce Lee, but there is no way in hell I h... Feb 15 2005, 06:15 PM shadow_scholar Hey Brazila, ever play football (the US kind)? Wh... Feb 15 2005, 06:19 PM CanvasBack I think the example is inherently flawed. The att... Feb 15 2005, 06:19 PM BitBasher QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) "Only if you suck. ... Feb 15 2005, 06:31 PM GentlemanLoser LOL! I consider myself a lump! I'm ... Feb 15 2005, 06:58 PM mfb you can pick apart some of the details of the girl... Feb 15 2005, 07:02 PM Dawnshadow QUOTE (BitBasher) QUOTE (GentlemanLoser @ Feb... Feb 15 2005, 07:03 PM CanvasBack The physad in the example doesn't appear to ha... Feb 15 2005, 07:13 PM mfb so, because a bunch of 12-yo girls can beat up a g... Feb 15 2005, 07:25 PM hahnsoo It depends on what merit badges the Girl Scout pac... Feb 15 2005, 07:29 PM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb) so, because a bunch of 12-yo girls can... Feb 15 2005, 07:36 PM mfb uh, okay. i admit, my experience in booting girl s... Feb 15 2005, 07:38 PM hahnsoo Somehow, this example reminds me of the game/comic... Feb 15 2005, 07:39 PM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb) uh, okay. i admit, my experience in bo... Feb 15 2005, 07:47 PM CanvasBack QUOTE (mfb) so, because a bunch of 12-yo girls can... Feb 15 2005, 07:51 PM mfb there's no way, in real life or in SR, that a ... Feb 15 2005, 07:53 PM GrinderTheTroll I personally don't like the penalty for facing... Feb 15 2005, 07:56 PM mfb QUOTE (CanvasBack)Yeah, I think it would take Bruc... Feb 15 2005, 08:00 PM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb) there's no way, in real life or in... Feb 15 2005, 08:01 PM CanvasBack I can see what Grinder is saying, but...
The SR s... Feb 15 2005, 08:01 PM mfb except that a guy with 6 points in any unarmed com... Feb 15 2005, 08:03 PM GrinderTheTroll QUOTE (mfb) except that a guy with 6 points in any... Feb 15 2005, 08:09 PM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb) except that a guy with 6 points in any... Feb 15 2005, 08:11 PM mfb i'd argue that fighting kids is not a matter o... Feb 15 2005, 08:12 PM CanvasBack Forget Karate 1, forget Strength 2.
The little gi... Feb 15 2005, 08:14 PM James McMurray Grinder: wouldn';t you always want to end a fi... Feb 15 2005, 08:15 PM GrinderTheTroll QUOTE (James McMurray) Grinder: wouldn';t you ... Feb 15 2005, 08:21 PM Dawnshadow QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll) QUOTE (James McMurray ... Feb 15 2005, 08:25 PM mfb you really shouldn't need maneuvers to kick 12... Feb 15 2005, 08:27 PM algcs Funny topic. I coach a soccer team with 5 teen gi... Feb 15 2005, 08:37 PM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb) you really shouldn't need maneuver... Feb 15 2005, 08:37 PM GrinderTheTroll Remove the combat penalty for multiple opponents a... Feb 15 2005, 08:50 PM CanvasBack QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll) I know folks don't lik... Feb 15 2005, 09:00 PM mfb QUOTE (Dawnshadow)It seems like you're operati... Feb 15 2005, 09:18 PM James McMurray The only way we're going to solve this is to f... Feb 15 2005, 09:29 PM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb) QUOTE (Dawnshadow)It seems like you... Feb 15 2005, 09:30 PM shadow_scholar Upon further reflecting I think it all comes down ... Feb 15 2005, 09:41 PM mfb the only way a kid that young is going to score an... Feb 15 2005, 09:47 PM James McMurray This is not how the initative system works. Even i... Feb 15 2005, 09:47 PM mfb QUOTE (shadow scholar)All they have to do is grab ... Feb 15 2005, 09:49 PM shadow_scholar QUOTE (James McMurray) This is not how the initati... Feb 15 2005, 09:59 PM mfb right, because a 12-yo girl is going to do so much... Feb 15 2005, 10:02 PM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb) the only way a kid that young is going... Feb 15 2005, 10:03 PM mfb your back and sides are the least-vulnerable, most... Feb 15 2005, 10:05 PM shadow_scholar QUOTE (mfb) right, because a 12-yo girl is going t... Feb 15 2005, 10:10 PM Austere Emancipator shadow_scholar: Yes, someone has. This message is ... Feb 15 2005, 10:13 PM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb) your back and sides are the least-vuln... Feb 15 2005, 10:20 PM mfb your arguments hinge on low-probability freak occu... Feb 15 2005, 10:26 PM vapor here's the thing... the rules for multiple att... Feb 15 2005, 10:27 PM shadow_scholar Thanx for the link, Austere. In the first example... Feb 15 2005, 10:41 PM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 15 2005, 05:26 PM) your argu... Feb 15 2005, 10:46 PM James McMurray QUOTE (vapor) here's the thing... the rules fo... Feb 15 2005, 10:57 PM mfb the girls will be attacking against TN 2; most of ... Feb 15 2005, 10:57 PM Rev The house rule where anyone can simply choose to i... Feb 15 2005, 10:58 PM hahnsoo Now we just need to pit 5 Girl Scouts with Hold-ou... Feb 15 2005, 11:01 PM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb) the girls will be attacking against TN... Feb 15 2005, 11:07 PM mfb yes. Str(M) base, staged up with 2 successes for S... Feb 15 2005, 11:11 PM GrinderTheTroll QUOTE (hahnsoo) Now we just need to pit 5 Girl Sco... Feb 15 2005, 11:16 PM Dawnshadow The adept will get 1 success, more often then not.... Feb 15 2005, 11:22 PM John Campbell In ten years of SCA fighting, I've been in a l... Feb 16 2005, 12:11 AM mfb those probabilities change rapidly once the adept ... Feb 16 2005, 12:16 AM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb) those probabilities change rapidly onc... Feb 16 2005, 12:26 AM BitBasher Remember if a girl scout rolls a single one with a... Feb 16 2005, 12:39 AM Dawnshadow QUOTE (BitBasher) Remember if a girl scout rolls a... Feb 16 2005, 12:40 AM mfb okay. it was also run in the original test, and th... Feb 16 2005, 12:41 AM BitBasher QUOTE (Dawnshadow) QUOTE (BitBasher @ Feb 15 ... Feb 16 2005, 12:45 AM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 15 2005, 07:41 PM) okay. it ... Feb 16 2005, 12:51 AM theartthief Just a quick note on the reality of the EP and the... Feb 16 2005, 12:51 AM Kanada Ten All the adept needs to do is inflict a Light wound... Feb 16 2005, 12:51 AM Dawnshadow QUOTE (Kanada Ten) All the adept needs to do is in... Feb 16 2005, 12:54 AM GrinderTheTroll We said, BUY MORE COOKIES DAMNIT!! Feb 16 2005, 12:56 AM Rev QUOTE (theartthief @ Feb 16 2005, 12:51 AM) I... Feb 16 2005, 01:06 AM mfb QUOTE (Dawnshadow)What did the adept have that cou... Feb 16 2005, 01:13 AM Kanada Ten [In actual use, a highly trained mundane] can simp... Feb 16 2005, 01:17 AM Dawnshadow QUOTE (mfb) QUOTE (Dawnshadow)What did the adept h... Feb 16 2005, 01:19 AM Tziluthi Maybe only one modifier should apply. Instead of c... Feb 16 2005, 01:24 AM shadow_scholar QUOTE (John Campbell) In ten years of SCA fighting... Feb 16 2005, 02:41 AM Lafcadio I think the problem with the example of the girl s... Feb 16 2005, 03:40 AM GentlemanLoser Just incase people have been skipping the first pa... Feb 16 2005, 08:29 AM Apathy When I originally created the prior post, I was as... Feb 16 2005, 03:45 PM Dawnshadow I suggested that rule as an option actually.. I li... Feb 16 2005, 03:48 PM Rev The only change I would suggest is that the charac... Feb 16 2005, 05:41 PM James McMurray I don't think there's a need for any house... Feb 16 2005, 06:17 PM
DrJest I think John hit it on the head with his comments ... Feb 16 2005, 06:51 PM  |
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