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Tziluthi
post Feb 21 2005, 08:26 AM
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Reading through Man & Machine, it occurred to me that cyberware is quite expensive, especially at higher grades. In fact, when you get down to beta-ware, any decent piece of gear is so damn expensive, it's quite difficult to think of people that would have both the money and some sort of use for the equipment. Certainly not any individual, but a corporation, one that rakes in billions of dollars each year and has important security concerns, they certainly fit the bill. Or do they?

Corporations are all too willing to fire loyal, hardworking employees in the name of the bottom line, but they also seem very willing to shell out big dosh on delta-grade cyberware for their security teams, high-outlay, high-upkeep cyberzombies that end up getting terminal cancer after a year, and expensive, difficult to maintain cyber-enhanced paranimals.

Although they make for challenging shadowruns, I just can't get around the idea of corporations, entities controlled by apparently inhumanly greedy stockholders, turning around and more or less burning cash on stuff that isn't actually making money for them, and isn't actually all that effective or long-term, either.

In any case, what do GMs think about this? Has anybody ever considered this concept, and purposefully kept esoteric forms of security out of their games?
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- Tziluthi   Corporations, cyberzombies...   Feb 21 2005, 08:26 AM
- - toturi   I see cyberzombies as R & D for both magic and...   Feb 21 2005, 08:30 AM
- - Capt. Dave   I don't have a cyberzombie in every corp facil...   Feb 21 2005, 08:35 AM
- - Large Mike   As a defensive measure, I agree, a CZ is a waste o...   Feb 21 2005, 08:38 AM
- - RunnerPaul   Also, hasn't there been some strong hinting th...   Feb 21 2005, 09:27 AM
- - toturi   By the way, there is nothing to say that cyberzomb...   Feb 21 2005, 09:28 AM
- - Edward   For les than 1,500,000 nuyen you can build a real ...   Feb 21 2005, 11:24 AM
- - Aes   Cyberzombies are the dotcoms of megacorps. You got...   Feb 21 2005, 11:43 AM
- - Grinder   I go with the R&D solution. Cyberzombies may b...   Feb 21 2005, 12:23 PM
- - Gyro the Greek Sandwich Pirate   There's also the psychological and morale impl...   Feb 21 2005, 01:37 PM
- - Backgammon   QUOTE (Tziluthi) Although they make for challengin...   Feb 21 2005, 01:38 PM
- - akarenti   Plus, Cyberzombies are kind of a byproduct of more...   Feb 21 2005, 01:41 PM
- - Charon   If we go by what we know of Cybermancy so far, it...   Feb 21 2005, 03:18 PM
- - Fortune   Hatchetman, not Wedge.   Feb 21 2005, 04:34 PM
- - Edward   QUOTE (Gyro the Greek Sandwich Pirate) There's...   Feb 21 2005, 05:45 PM
- - Cynic project   Who really think that SK pays the listed cost for ...   Feb 21 2005, 05:56 PM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Edward) QUOTE (Gyro the Greek Sandwich Pira...   Feb 21 2005, 08:01 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (hahnsoo) QUOTE (Edward @ Feb 21 2005, ...   Feb 21 2005, 08:18 PM
- - FrostyNSO   QUOTE (Backgammon @ Feb 21 2005, 08:38 AM) QU...   Feb 21 2005, 10:59 PM
- - hahnsoo   Back to the original topic, there are only 3 megac...   Feb 21 2005, 11:18 PM
- - akarenti   Also, think of it this way: You have a senior cor...   Feb 22 2005, 12:00 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Cynic project) Who really think that SK pay...   Feb 22 2005, 03:05 AM
- - FrostyNSO   QUOTE (akarenti) Also, think of it this way: You ...   Feb 22 2005, 06:38 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (FrostyNSO) If this dude is so damn good, he...   Feb 22 2005, 06:42 AM
- - Edward   QUOTE (BitBasher) QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Feb 21 200...   Feb 22 2005, 07:19 AM
- - FrostyNSO   Our group hasn't run into 4 over the past few ...   Feb 22 2005, 09:32 AM
- - The White Dwarf   Its been awhile so my memory may fail me, but thes...   Feb 22 2005, 10:22 AM
- - toturi   Whatever astral threat that the drone may not be a...   Feb 22 2005, 10:52 AM
- - Grinder   QUOTE (FrostyNSO) Except, of course, scare the cra...   Feb 22 2005, 12:44 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE There are several things my drones can do be...   Feb 22 2005, 04:23 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Steel Lynxes are mostly useless. If you're in ...   Feb 22 2005, 04:48 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Steel Lynxes are mostly useless...   Feb 22 2005, 04:50 PM
- - Kagetenshi   That's where the rotodrones come in. Just gett...   Feb 22 2005, 04:56 PM
- - BitBasher   Actually I'd never want ot use a rotodrone ind...   Feb 22 2005, 05:07 PM
- - Kagetenshi   As long as you have clearance for the rotors, it...   Feb 22 2005, 05:11 PM
- - akarenti   QUOTE (toturi)Whatever astral threat that the dron...   Feb 23 2005, 02:40 AM
- - TeOdio   Hmm, Cyber Zombies. I've never really found mu...   Feb 23 2005, 05:14 AM
- - Edward   <Begin sales pitch Q&A> QUOTE Hell, I...   Feb 23 2005, 05:20 AM
- - toturi   A drone does not usually have double digit Body (w...   Feb 23 2005, 06:45 AM
- - FrostyNSO   If I was in charge of some corp's cybertech di...   Feb 23 2005, 06:49 AM
- - hahnsoo   I guess it is time to break out the rail guns...   Feb 23 2005, 06:53 AM
- - BitBasher   I think the "call a shot to bypass armor on a...   Feb 23 2005, 07:07 AM
- - Kagetenshi   FAQ ain't canon, but IIRC that particular crim...   Feb 23 2005, 07:25 AM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) FAQ ain't canon, but IIRC t...   Feb 23 2005, 07:35 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Phew. ~J   Feb 23 2005, 07:39 AM
- - Edward   QUOTE (toturi) A drone does not usually have doubl...   Feb 23 2005, 09:01 AM
- - The White Dwarf   The astral avoidance of drones is potentially misl...   Feb 23 2005, 11:11 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Edward) [I subscribe to the idea that in or...   Feb 23 2005, 12:33 PM
- - Fortune   The FAQ doesn't specifically mention bypassing...   Feb 23 2005, 12:48 PM
- - Edward   QUOTE (toturi) QUOTE (Edward @ Feb 23 2005, 0...   Feb 23 2005, 03:58 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Sure it does. It gives half of its mod to linked w...   Feb 23 2005, 05:12 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (Edward) QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 23 2005, 0...   Feb 23 2005, 05:56 PM
- - hahnsoo   Yeah, it was this very question that led us to cre...   Feb 23 2005, 06:41 PM
- - Edward   QUOTE (hahnsoo) Yeah, it was this very question th...   Feb 24 2005, 04:51 AM


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