Mar 10 2005, 10:54 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 128 Joined: 28-January 05 Member No.: 7,029 |
Hi All.
Has anyone had problems with Shamans sustaining spells? Well with mages sustianing spells, but hermatics have the option to sustain spells through summoned elementals, which shamans do not. The +2TN per sustained spell is a heavy penalty, that with even one spell sustained, coupled with some light drain and maybe a light physical wound starts to make it very difficult for a shaman to do anything. From casting another spell, shooting a gun or even talking thier way out of a situation... Even forbid the Shaman tries to sustain a second spell... Casting anther spell while sustaining others is going to lead to taking drain, and more penalties, the sustaining penalty is applied to drain tests isn't it? Or do all mages start with enough cash to purchase all the sustaining focuses they need at generation? I understand the need to limit the amount of spells a mage can have active at one time, but doesn't anyone else find this penalty to be too harsh? Has anyone thought of house rules for sustaining spells? Maybe along the lines of linking sustained spells to the spell pool, decreasing a mages magical capability while sustiaing spells, while still enabling them to do other activities. Not all characters start with enough cash to dole out a number of focuses at generation. |
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GentlemanLoser Shamans sustaining spells Mar 10 2005, 10:54 AM
Aes You could take focused concentration as an edge an... Mar 10 2005, 11:01 AM
hahnsoo Nope, not too harsh. It's balanced as it is, ... Mar 10 2005, 11:12 AM
Critias How many spells do you need to sustain, and still ... Mar 10 2005, 11:21 AM
Sandoval Smith It's a balancing thing. A shaman can whip up ... Mar 10 2005, 11:25 AM
GentlemanLoser Fine.. Then an aspected sorcerer. No summoning, ... Mar 10 2005, 11:35 AM
hahnsoo QUOTE (GentlemanLoser @ Mar 10 2005, 06:35 AM... Mar 10 2005, 11:34 AM
GentlemanLoser I think that's shamanists. Sorcerers are herm... Mar 10 2005, 11:51 AM
Critias The point is just know when to drop a spell. If y... Mar 10 2005, 11:59 AM
GentlemanLoser So the answer is unless you start/earn with enough... Mar 10 2005, 11:56 AM
hahnsoo QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) I think that's shamanis... Mar 10 2005, 12:26 PM
GentlemanLoser I stand corrected. Shamanists are the ones who ca... Mar 10 2005, 12:29 PM
mintcar If your in a game were the GM doesn´t have or use ... Mar 10 2005, 12:29 PM
GentlemanLoser "Play a mage and use elementals for sustainin... Mar 10 2005, 12:44 PM
hahnsoo QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) I stand corrected. Shaman... Mar 10 2005, 12:46 PM
mintcar I think we might as well realize that there´s a re... Mar 10 2005, 12:46 PM
GentlemanLoser When things went wrong (and this is all just an ex... Mar 10 2005, 12:52 PM
mintcar I do understand the frustration you describe. My p... Mar 10 2005, 12:45 PM
hahnsoo QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) Looks like I am on my own t... Mar 10 2005, 12:48 PM
DarkShade in this case I would use different base target nrs... Mar 10 2005, 01:07 PM
Critias Combat Shaman very much are possible. I play a fe... Mar 10 2005, 01:10 PM
hahnsoo QUOTE (DarkShade) if you dont have the $... Mar 10 2005, 01:02 PM
GentlemanLoser "Most of the things you describe would be to ... Mar 10 2005, 01:43 PM
hahnsoo It really sounds like you are pounding a square pe... Mar 10 2005, 01:55 PM
tisoz Learn channeling.
Have your shaman channel a forc... Mar 10 2005, 01:57 PM
Crusher Bob QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) ...
With +4TN/-4 init you... Mar 10 2005, 03:02 PM
Cray74 QUOTE (GentlemanLoser)Drop any combat buffs you ha... Mar 10 2005, 03:08 PM
Edward It is harsh but I don’t think it is to harsh.
If ... Mar 10 2005, 03:27 PM
tisoz Elementals can only sustain a spell for a number o... Mar 10 2005, 03:44 PM
Mr.Cato QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) I think that's shamanis... Mar 10 2005, 03:52 PM
tisoz QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) So you've one sustained... Mar 10 2005, 04:29 PM
mintcar When you get better you are able to handle bigger ... Mar 10 2005, 06:07 PM
mintcar And good magicans center against penalties, so the... Mar 10 2005, 06:11 PM
John Campbell QUOTE (GentlemanLoser)"Most of the things you... Mar 10 2005, 06:31 PM
GentlemanLoser "Learn channeling.
Have your shaman channel ... Mar 10 2005, 07:18 PM
John Campbell Quickening, basically, eliminates the penalty for ... Mar 10 2005, 07:36 PM
Tarantula Centering is also the way to avoid taking the TN p... Mar 10 2005, 08:23 PM
BitBasher Although centering can only be done once, as it ta... Mar 10 2005, 08:33 PM
tisoz QUOTE (GentlemanLoser)I find it wrong that a novic... Mar 10 2005, 08:51 PM
mintcar cool. Didn´t know that Mar 10 2005, 11:08 PM
JaronK QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) Back to the cat chaman in T... Mar 11 2005, 12:07 AM
mintcar JaronK. Take a look at my sketch of your character... Mar 11 2005, 12:14 AM
Kanada Ten Ritual Magic can be used to sustain a spell for a ... Mar 11 2005, 12:57 AM
Critias QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) I find it wrong that a novi... Mar 11 2005, 05:32 AM
The White Dwarf Theres not even an issue here. The author posed a... Mar 11 2005, 09:21 AM
mintcar I´m feeling fuzzy inside thinking about how good t... Mar 11 2005, 09:34 AM
Eyeless Blond It is pretty cool, isn't it? All the same, I... Mar 11 2005, 04:29 PM
Kanada Ten QUOTE (Eyeless Blond) It is pretty cool, isn't... Mar 11 2005, 05:32 PM
Nikoli Nah, use their magic pool 2 dice per, make it requ... Mar 11 2005, 05:36 PM
Eyeless Blond QUOTE (Kanada Ten) QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Mar... Mar 11 2005, 05:45 PM
mintcar I think centering does this just fine. You can´t u... Mar 11 2005, 10:02 PM![]() ![]() |
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