 Riggers in SR4, (Whats happening to them anyways?) |
 Mar 25 2005, 04:04 PM
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I get the idea that deckers and riggers are getting a merger in SR4. (At least thats what I've picked up from reading this forum.)
I think this is a bad idea, as I really liked Riggers and deckers being seperate. I dont really see what being a good computer type has to do with being a good wheelman. Especialy with the need of a good VCR unit. Anyways, I'd love having the vehicle rules simplified, but I would really dislike having them (Riggers) rolled into Deckers. What are the communities ideas? |
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phelious fogg Riggers in SR4 Mar 25 2005, 04:04 PM
Tanka Well, for one, just because everybody wants it doe... Mar 25 2005, 04:36 PM Bigity But they have said that the line between rigger an... Mar 25 2005, 04:47 PM Kagetenshi Again, that's based on the false assumption th... Mar 25 2005, 04:53 PM Tanka Exactly what Kagetenshi said.
What's the rule... Mar 25 2005, 05:05 PM Kagetenshi Moreover, Computers 6 is quite valuable for a Rigg... Mar 25 2005, 05:04 PM nezumi From what I've seen, it sounds like deckers ar... Mar 25 2005, 05:04 PM Tarantula Tanka, no. If you have a datajack but no VCR, you... Mar 25 2005, 05:07 PM mfb yeah. i think it's going to be more that decke... Mar 25 2005, 05:17 PM Bigity I wouldn't exactly compare someone with a data... Mar 25 2005, 05:12 PM Nikoli Just an aside, datajack driving grants a -1 to TNs... Mar 25 2005, 05:26 PM Charon I always felt that the virtual dashboard was more ... Mar 25 2005, 05:30 PM Bigity QUOTE (Charon) I always felt that the virtual dash... Mar 25 2005, 05:37 PM Tarantula QUOTE (Bigity) QUOTE (Charon @ Mar 25 2005, 1... Mar 25 2005, 05:39 PM Kagetenshi Why not? I've always greatly enjoyed them.
~J Mar 25 2005, 05:39 PM Kanada Ten Hey, wireless vehicles controlled using virtual da... Mar 25 2005, 05:50 PM Kagetenshi *Watches as that moves to #1 least-used feature am... Mar 25 2005, 06:02 PM Charon QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Mar 25 2005, 12:39 PM) Wh... Mar 25 2005, 06:59 PM Nikoli Umm, I always understood it to be separated like t... Mar 25 2005, 07:03 PM Charon The idea of the security rigger is that he control... Mar 25 2005, 07:07 PM Nikoli Well, cameras are a special case for the security.... Mar 25 2005, 07:46 PM Kanada Ten QUOTE (Kagetenshi) *Watches as that moves to #1 le... Mar 25 2005, 08:11 PM Charon QUOTE (Nikoli @ Mar 25 2005, 02:46 PM) Well, ... Mar 25 2005, 08:13 PM Nikoli The rigger can see through it and can move the cam... Mar 25 2005, 08:23 PM Charon Essentially, he is the building host.
You don... Mar 25 2005, 08:21 PM Fortune I say bring it on!
Both Archetypes use their ... Mar 25 2005, 08:30 PM Kanada Ten The decker needs only to feed a BTL into the camer... Mar 25 2005, 08:22 PM Charon QUOTE (Fortune) I say bring it on!
Both Arche... Mar 25 2005, 08:24 PM Charon QUOTE (Kanada Ten @ Mar 25 2005, 03:22 PM) Th... Mar 25 2005, 08:46 PM Dizzo Dizzman I like combining them from a game mechanics standp... Mar 25 2005, 09:24 PM Kagetenshi In spite of the fact that people already persist i... Mar 25 2005, 09:37 PM Fortune QUOTE (Dizzo Dizzman) Hackers: Deep Matrix pros wh... Mar 25 2005, 09:35 PM Siege Depending on how the skills and new 'ware fall... Mar 25 2005, 09:44 PM Dizzo Dizzman I probably echoing a previous dumpshock battle, bu... Mar 25 2005, 09:39 PM Kagetenshi I suppose that's a point for drone riggers, bu... Mar 25 2005, 09:51 PM Kanada Ten QUOTE (Charon) QUOTE (Kanada Ten @ Mar 25 200... Mar 25 2005, 09:53 PM Dizzo Dizzman I agree completely or for a drone rigger to invest... Mar 25 2005, 09:54 PM Cynic project Okay here is something I never got..Why are VCRs a... Mar 25 2005, 09:55 PM Nikoli Cynic, do you men incompatible?
They aren't
I... Mar 25 2005, 09:49 PM Kanada Ten Well, riggers don't use their physical body to... Mar 25 2005, 09:51 PM Kagetenshi Come to that, I rescind my statement that it makes... Mar 25 2005, 09:58 PM Tarantula QUOTE (Kanada Ten) The decker needs only to feed a... Mar 25 2005, 10:48 PM Kanada Ten QUOTE No corp in its right mind would leave its CC... Mar 25 2005, 10:46 PM Cynic project QUOTE (Nikoli) Cynic, do you men incompatible?
Th... Mar 26 2005, 09:19 PM Tarantula Think about it. MBW/WR make your body react faste... Mar 26 2005, 10:24 PM RunnerPaul QUOTE (Cynic project) I will look closer into the ... Mar 27 2005, 01:25 AM Charon Who would want to mix VCR and MBW anyway? A PC cr... Mar 27 2005, 03:52 AM Toa QUOTE (phelious fogg)I dont really see what being ... Mar 27 2005, 05:03 AM mfb the problem with rigging is the VCR. it's too ... Mar 27 2005, 05:49 AM Kagetenshi Because it doesn't make much sense. There aren... Mar 27 2005, 06:33 AM Cain QUOTE You can't have both wired reflexes and a... Mar 27 2005, 06:45 AM Tarantula QUOTE (Kanada Ten) QUOTE No corp in its right mind... Mar 27 2005, 06:50 AM RunnerPaul Does anyone know of a working link to Jon Stezo... Mar 27 2005, 07:08 AM mfb QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Because it doesn't make muc... Mar 27 2005, 10:35 AM mfb i am ten double-posting ninjas. Mar 27 2005, 10:49 AM Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (RunnerPaul)That's all well and good, bu... Mar 27 2005, 10:50 AM Tarantula QUOTE (RunnerPaul) QUOTE (Tarantula)Let me prove t... Mar 27 2005, 05:51 PM Kanada Ten QUOTE Now then, if you plug your BTL in, now one s... Mar 27 2005, 06:11 PM Tarantula No, it isn't, because the intruding rigger can... Mar 27 2005, 06:29 PM CanvasBack QUOTE (Kanada Ten @ Mar 27 2005, 01:11 PM)
Q... Mar 27 2005, 09:16 PM Kagetenshi Actually, in most places they are there for decora... Mar 27 2005, 09:25 PM Shockwave_IIc Just an aside type of thing. I see Multiple rigger... Mar 28 2005, 12:39 AM Fortune QUOTE (Shockwave_IIc) But on topic, i feel that th... Mar 28 2005, 02:52 AM hermit Only that the 'adept' in this case would h... Mar 28 2005, 07:46 AM RunnerPaul QUOTE (hermit) They'd still be very different,... Mar 28 2005, 08:34 AM hermit Yeah. As a longtime rigger player (since 1994), I... Mar 28 2005, 08:46 AM DrJest Riggers, deckers, deckers, riggers...
You know, t... Mar 28 2005, 11:17 AM hermit You have no idea how much money a good drone rigge... Mar 28 2005, 01:20 PM DrJest This probably won't please you then. Taken fro... Mar 28 2005, 01:22 PM hermit Yeah, read it. Woopiedoo! I guess I should sta... Mar 28 2005, 04:04 PM mintcar It will make rigger and decker characters less ... Mar 28 2005, 04:19 PM mmu1 Beat the Riggers into a bloody pulp!
Serio... Mar 28 2005, 04:34 PM hermit I dunno, but changing the advantage of a rigger ch... Mar 28 2005, 04:35 PM mmu1 QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 28 2005, 11:35 AM) Much l... Mar 28 2005, 04:51 PM mmu1 QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 28 2005, 11:35 AM) Enviou... Mar 28 2005, 04:55 PM Charon If they reduce the gap between riggers and non-rig... Mar 28 2005, 05:09 PM hermit QUOTE See my previous post... Who's better? Th... Mar 28 2005, 05:09 PM hermit QUOTE I guess the main problem with the VCR is tha... Mar 28 2005, 05:20 PM mfb yes, but wired reflexes aren't required to be ... Mar 28 2005, 05:23 PM hermit QUOTE yes, but wired reflexes aren't required... Mar 28 2005, 05:41 PM Charon QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 28 2005, 12:20 PM) And a ... Mar 28 2005, 05:45 PM hermit QUOTE So a more accurate comparison would be, if W... Mar 28 2005, 05:57 PM mfb QUOTE (hermit)Given a high gun skill and AV, it ca... Mar 28 2005, 05:56 PM Shockwave_IIc QUOTE (hermit) Here're the stats:
Sam: Initia... Mar 28 2005, 06:03 PM Fortune QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 29 2005, 03:09 AM) Here... Mar 28 2005, 06:25 PM Charon QUOTE (hermit) 1 - You cannot have a combat pool w... Mar 28 2005, 06:39 PM hermit QUOTE Quickness 8, Inteliegence 8
I was calculatin... Mar 28 2005, 06:55 PM mmu1 QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 28 2005, 12:09 PM) Ummm .... Mar 28 2005, 06:56 PM hermit QUOTE Uh... I had a long reply typed in, but on re... Mar 28 2005, 06:59 PM mmu1 QUOTE (hermit) Enlighten me. Combat pool can be us... Mar 28 2005, 06:53 PM hermit Funny, never noticed that. Guess that comes with a... Mar 28 2005, 07:15 PM Charon QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 28 2005, 01:55 PM) 1 - Wi... Mar 28 2005, 07:17 PM Demonseed Elite I think the last few posts are a good example of w... Mar 28 2005, 07:18 PM Fortune QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 29 2005, 04:55 AM) Sorry,... Mar 28 2005, 07:26 PM mmu1 QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 28 2005, 02:15 PM) Funny,... Mar 28 2005, 07:28 PM hermit QUOTE What 'on-the-fly' translation? You w... Mar 28 2005, 07:49 PM DrJest Sorry, all this talk of wired sammies versus VCR... Mar 28 2005, 08:13 PM mmu1 QUOTE (DrJest) Sorry, all this talk of wired sammi... Mar 28 2005, 08:29 PM hermit And I was disagreeing and tried to point out how d... Mar 28 2005, 08:51 PM
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