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Smartlinks: are they usable with Astral Perception?
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shadow_scholar
post Apr 20 2005, 08:05 PM
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Maybe this has been brought up before, and if so, my apologies, but I was asked to take this debate to a separate place, so I have.

After a story was told in another thread about how a player used a Smartlink while Astrally Perceiving I immediately thought to myself how, as a GM, I wouldn't allow it. I personally see it this way (no pun intended), Astral Perception is not something dependent upon the eyes, it is more of a sense that is attuned to the fabric of magic, or the Astral Plane, if you will. If Astral Perception were dependent upon sight then blind people wouldn't be able to do it, but according to the SRComp Blindness becomes something like a 2 pt Flaw if the character has Astral Perception, leading me to believe that said character would still be able to Astrally Perceive despite being blind, which leads me to further believe that Astral Perception is not dependent upon physical sight, therefore cyberware that depends upon physical sight to function would not work (as I see it, a Smartlink depends upon a visual crosshair or dot put up in your field of vision to indicate where the gun is pointed, therefore it depends upon physical sight).

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- shadow_scholar   Smartlinks: usable with Astral Perception?   Apr 20 2005, 08:05 PM
- - FrostyNSO   agreed.   Apr 20 2005, 08:22 PM
- - Kagetenshi   The smartlink shows the point of bullet impact. Th...   Apr 20 2005, 08:42 PM
- - Taki   1 I didn't thought we could mix normal vision ...   Apr 20 2005, 09:03 PM
- - Kagetenshi   1) Yes, you can. That's what happens when you...   Apr 20 2005, 09:09 PM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (shadow_scholar @ Apr 20 2005, 03:05 PM...   Apr 20 2005, 09:09 PM
- - Dawnshadow   Perfectly usable together -- if there's someth...   Apr 20 2005, 09:10 PM
- - Taki   "sight is the primary sense for most human be...   Apr 20 2005, 09:23 PM
- - Eldritch   I'd allow it for cyber Smart link - the player...   Apr 20 2005, 09:43 PM
- - blakkie   Being Blind (the flaw) and closing your eyes are t...   Apr 20 2005, 09:50 PM
- - Sharaloth   When a character astrally perceives their normal s...   Apr 20 2005, 09:57 PM
- - shadow_scholar   Ah, okay, I see the big difference in points of vi...   Apr 20 2005, 10:06 PM
- - hahnsoo   In SR1/2, you couldn't target spells on invisi...   Apr 20 2005, 10:16 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Shadow_Scholar: That may be your interpretation, b...   Apr 20 2005, 10:17 PM
- - Sharaloth   Hmm. I only played SR2 for a few sessions, and rea...   Apr 20 2005, 10:19 PM
- - shadow_scholar   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Apr 20 2005, 05:17 PM) Sh...   Apr 20 2005, 10:28 PM
- - hahnsoo   I'll also say that there isn't anything wr...   Apr 20 2005, 10:33 PM
- - toturi   Yes, primarily because the books do not say that t...   Apr 21 2005, 02:56 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE I also found this, on page 172: Using astra...   Apr 21 2005, 06:49 AM
- - Smiley   No way.   Apr 21 2005, 06:49 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Smiley) No way. Care to explain why you...   Apr 21 2005, 06:58 AM
- - Critias   QUOTE (Fortune) QUOTE (Smiley @ Apr 21 2005, ...   Apr 21 2005, 07:03 AM
- - Fortune   What if your character follows the Way of the Guns...   Apr 21 2005, 07:09 AM
- - JaronK   Saying smartlinks don't work when you are usin...   Apr 21 2005, 07:57 AM
- - Demosthenes   Besides, it'd allow for all kinds of 'ente...   Apr 21 2005, 08:09 AM
- - Edward   I would allow it even if you where blind firing, (...   Apr 21 2005, 08:23 AM
- - mfb   exactly. the problem with shooting while blind is,...   Apr 21 2005, 03:13 PM
- - RoaminNose   Bah. I initially voted no (based on astral "s...   Apr 21 2005, 04:18 PM
- - The Question   QUOTE (RoaminNose)Bah. I initially voted no (based...   Apr 21 2005, 06:16 PM
- - nezumi   I think the question is just does astral vision ov...   Apr 21 2005, 06:36 PM
- - ShadowGhost   QUOTE (Edward)Even in a completely black room your...   Apr 22 2005, 12:17 AM
- - Aardvark892   Sorry to bring this up, but the idea of what exact...   Apr 22 2005, 01:13 AM
- - toturi   Using a SL is not a mundane action as you do not n...   Apr 22 2005, 01:14 AM
- - Wireknight   My belief is that when one is dual-natured, via as...   Apr 22 2005, 01:38 AM
- - Aardvark892   WireKnight, can you please tell me the reference t...   Apr 22 2005, 01:43 AM
- - Sharaloth   ...lowing the rules. Okay. @Aardvark892 That wou...   Apr 22 2005, 01:47 AM
- - SuperSpy   QUOTE (toturi @ Apr 21 2005, 08:14 PM) Using ...   Apr 22 2005, 02:12 AM
- - Sharaloth   Which is why you get the +2 for firing the gun . ....   Apr 22 2005, 02:15 AM
- - ShadowGhost   Lining up a cyber smartlink with an astral target....   Apr 22 2005, 03:10 AM
- - Edward   QUOTE (ShadowGhost) Lining up a cyber smartlink wi...   Apr 22 2005, 03:35 AM
- - Demosthenes   QUOTE (Sharaloth) QUOTE (SR3 pg 301)Targeting info...   Apr 22 2005, 07:10 AM
- - Critias   QUOTE (Edward) the action is shooting a target usi...   Apr 22 2005, 08:51 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Critias, he (and many others) are referring to thi...   Apr 22 2005, 01:26 PM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Critias) But, that's besides the point....   Apr 22 2005, 01:27 PM
- - nezumi   Meh.. If Astral is a 'sixth sense', it sho...   Apr 22 2005, 03:46 PM
- - Edward   QUOTE (Critias) QUOTE (Edward @ Apr 21 2005, ...   Apr 22 2005, 03:52 PM
- - Dawnshadow   nezumi -- you'd be absolutely correct.. if peo...   Apr 22 2005, 04:05 PM
- - shadow_scholar   ShadowGhost brings up an interesting question. Fi...   Apr 22 2005, 05:48 PM
- - Dawnshadow   Smartlinks, from how I understood them, extrapolat...   Apr 22 2005, 07:21 PM
- - shadow_scholar   But if the target is Improved Invisible, and the o...   Apr 22 2005, 08:43 PM
- - mfb   stop. just stop. do not ponder the workings of t...   Apr 22 2005, 08:47 PM
- - Edward   It is the of centre gun witch made me believe that...   Apr 23 2005, 07:26 AM
- - Aardvark892   Sharaloth, thanks for the reference. I can't ...   Apr 23 2005, 07:45 AM
- - BishopMcQ   For my 2 cents, AStral perception is a combinatio...   Apr 23 2005, 07:57 PM


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