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Gambitt
post May 15 2005, 05:04 PM
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Looked a while at the myth of a modern shadowrunner post... and as far as a security guards job i just dont get it.
In SR, lets face it, its a dangerous place. There are some seriously frightning people out there, not just in terms of skills and contacts, but also in terms of killing power.
Really dont understand the moral point of view that someones just a security guard supporting his family by picking up a pay check.... its utter rubbish. If u want a safe job dont take one where you dont have a gun, and are expected to fight off anyone who breaks the Corps rules.
I remember taking a lot of moral highground crap for firing normal rounds instead of gel on a run. Now im not a psycho, but the guard could easily of identified me, so i killed him. Now i admit shooting to kill isnt nice, killing the provider of a family isnt nice either. BUT saying a security guard is just a job like any other, without any consequences is wrong in my opinion.
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- Gambitt   Security Guards.... just a job or a Profession?   May 15 2005, 05:04 PM
- - Smiley   I agree. To paraphrase, "If it's a choice...   May 15 2005, 05:22 PM
- - Kagetenshi   You pays your money and you takes your chances. ~...   May 15 2005, 06:47 PM
- - Adam   QUOTE (Gambitt)I remember taking a lot of moral hi...   May 15 2005, 06:57 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Maybe he's not speaking of a character? ~J   May 15 2005, 07:01 PM
- - hyzmarca   There are many different types of security guards....   May 15 2005, 07:20 PM
- - hermit   Overall, in Shadowrun, sec guards kinda are in a p...   May 15 2005, 07:58 PM
- - Gambitt   QUOTE (Adam)QUOTE (Gambitt)I remember taking a lot...   May 15 2005, 10:31 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Depends how its GMed, if someone has a gun p...   May 15 2005, 11:15 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   And here I was always under the impression that ki...   May 15 2005, 11:19 PM
- - Critias   QUOTE (hermit) Again, please imagine shadowrunners...   May 15 2005, 11:37 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (Critias)There's a world of difference b...   May 15 2005, 11:45 PM
- - hermit   Critas, that describes the ideal shadowrunner grou...   May 15 2005, 11:47 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (hermit @ May 15 2005, 05:47 PM) Critas...   May 15 2005, 11:50 PM
- - TenTonHammer   QUOTE (hermit) I don't believe every last Iraq...   May 16 2005, 01:42 AM
- - Kagetenshi   <Redacted> ~J   May 16 2005, 01:45 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Critias) Every death must serve a purpose, ...   May 16 2005, 01:45 AM
- - scoundrel   Frankly, I think it's a bit silly to view a re...   May 16 2005, 02:06 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Why? ~J   May 16 2005, 02:17 AM
- - Smiley   In a profession where violence is a prerequisite, ...   May 16 2005, 02:21 AM
- - scoundrel   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)Why? ~J Because no corporation ...   May 16 2005, 02:43 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (TenTonHammer) QUOTE (hermit) I don't be...   May 16 2005, 03:00 AM
- - scoundrel   One thing to consider is that cameras can be defea...   May 16 2005, 03:10 AM
- - Ed Simons   QUOTE (toturi)They kill because that's good PR...   May 16 2005, 03:28 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (hyzmarca) That being said, it is possible t...   May 16 2005, 03:39 AM
- - Ed Simons   QUOTE (scoundrel)One thing to consider is that cam...   May 16 2005, 03:46 AM
- - toturi   By the time you can be a credible threat, you can ...   May 16 2005, 04:02 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (scoundrel @ May 15 2005, 09:43 PM)Beca...   May 16 2005, 04:05 AM
- - scoundrel   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)Firstly, I disagree. Not every c...   May 16 2005, 04:48 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (scoundrel @ May 15 2005, 10:48 PM) QUO...   May 16 2005, 04:59 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0) QUOTE (hyzmarca @ May...   May 16 2005, 05:01 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ May 16 2005, 12:01 AM) It i...   May 16 2005, 05:03 AM
- - scoundrel   QUOTE Heh. One could incorporate a corporation in...   May 16 2005, 05:04 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (hyzmarca) QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0 @ May...   May 16 2005, 05:05 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (scoundrel)When I said corporation, I meant ...   May 16 2005, 05:05 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (scoundrel) When I said corporation, I meant...   May 16 2005, 05:06 AM
- - scoundrel   QUOTE *Thumbs up* Congratulations, you've just...   May 16 2005, 05:13 AM
- - toturi   There are corporations that are worth sending a ru...   May 16 2005, 05:24 AM
- - scoundrel   Toturi: How would they know about your reputation ...   May 16 2005, 05:30 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (scoundrel) Toturi: How would they know abou...   May 16 2005, 05:38 AM
- - scoundrel   If I was doing security work in Potato Corp and Al...   May 16 2005, 05:43 AM
- - Kagetenshi   What if there's a team of criminals going arou...   May 16 2005, 05:45 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (scoundrel) Toturi: How would they know abou...   May 16 2005, 05:51 AM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (hyzmarca @ May 16 2...   May 16 2005, 05:51 AM
- - scoundrel   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)What if there's a team of cr...   May 16 2005, 05:58 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (BitBasher) QUOTE Al Capone, Machine Gun Kel...   May 16 2005, 06:10 AM
- - CanvasBack   Here's the way I look at. Once the body count...   May 16 2005, 06:47 AM
- - frostPDP   Poli-rhetoric is fun! ...If I can spell rheto...   May 16 2005, 07:01 AM
- - toturi   You could say Ghostwalker was a threat, but did De...   May 16 2005, 07:27 AM
- - frostPDP   Ghostwalker was still subject to the force-escalat...   May 16 2005, 07:42 AM
- - toturi   Since you are using RL examples, then perhaps allo...   May 16 2005, 08:23 AM
- - frostPDP   Well, as good as your point is there are a few thi...   May 16 2005, 09:06 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE You could say Ghostwalker was a threat, but...   May 16 2005, 11:10 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (hermit) Ghostwalker is a Great Dragon. Take...   May 16 2005, 11:41 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Nobody came down to DC and asked,"Who ...   May 16 2005, 12:07 PM
- - Earthwalker   Getting back to the original post. I was partly re...   May 16 2005, 12:10 PM
- - toturi   QUOTE (hermit @ May 16 2005, 08:07 PM) And th...   May 16 2005, 12:35 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE How many contacts can a Face get if he reall...   May 16 2005, 02:23 PM
- - toturi   The original question was how many contacts can a ...   May 16 2005, 03:22 PM
- - Penta   QUOTE (hermit)If you prefer to run the game more o...   May 16 2005, 03:53 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (CanvasBack) Once the body count of "ci...   May 16 2005, 03:56 PM
- - Sheffield   First off, I think it's a ridiculous starting ...   May 16 2005, 05:00 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Sheffield @ May 16 2005, 12:00 PM) It...   May 16 2005, 05:15 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (frostPDP @ May 16 2005, 01:01 AM) Suff...   May 16 2005, 05:19 PM
- - Sheffield   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (Sheffield @ May 16 ...   May 16 2005, 05:44 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   It does nothing to ensure loyalty to the corp if t...   May 16 2005, 05:49 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Sheffield) First off, I think it's a ri...   May 16 2005, 05:49 PM
- - Sheffield   Now we're conflating law enforcement personnel...   May 16 2005, 05:57 PM
- - scoundrel   How many people have actually played characters wh...   May 16 2005, 05:57 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Sheffield) Guards are fundamentally employe...   May 16 2005, 06:02 PM
- - Sheffield   I frequently play characters that would drop neith...   May 16 2005, 06:05 PM
- - scoundrel   QUOTE (Sheffield)I frequently play characters that...   May 16 2005, 06:09 PM
- - Sheffield   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (Sheffield @ May 16 ...   May 16 2005, 06:11 PM
- - Kagetenshi   I think it's a perfectly sensible moral stance...   May 16 2005, 06:14 PM
- - Lantzer   QUOTE (scoundrel) One thing to consider is that ca...   May 16 2005, 06:43 PM
- - Sheffield   QUOTE (Lantzer @ May 16 2005, 01:43 PM) 1) It...   May 16 2005, 06:45 PM
- - scoundrel   Lantzer: 1) Relying on an eyewitness to be unreli...   May 16 2005, 06:52 PM
- - frostPDP   Alright, keep in mind the situation is purely hypo...   May 16 2005, 08:18 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (frostPDP @ May 16 2005, 03:18 PM) Alri...   May 16 2005, 08:58 PM
- - Gambitt   I do agree in some ways Sheffield, but the guy had...   May 16 2005, 09:12 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE You don't need to be a threat to the gov...   May 16 2005, 09:14 PM
- - Kagetenshi   The difference being that it is orders of magnitud...   May 16 2005, 09:25 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Sheffield @ May 16 2005, 01:05 PM) I f...   May 16 2005, 09:30 PM
- - Sheffield   Gambitt, I'm not saying Shadowrun is supposed ...   May 16 2005, 09:41 PM
- - Kagetenshi   If the guards are inhuman cardboard cutouts, you m...   May 16 2005, 09:47 PM
- - frostPDP   Kage, What do you need proof of? The numbers are...   May 16 2005, 10:48 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Sorry, I misinterpreted. I thought you were saying...   May 16 2005, 10:49 PM
- - Penta   QUOTE (Sheffield) Even taking the runner's rol...   May 17 2005, 12:16 AM
- - frostPDP   Hehe no harm no foul, Kage. But as for Deus' ...   May 17 2005, 12:32 AM
- - Kagetenshi   He can make you faster, stronger, more resistant t...   May 17 2005, 12:40 AM
- - mfb   that's only "bad" if you consider fr...   May 17 2005, 12:43 AM
- - FrostyNSO   QUOTE (Penta) QUOTE (Sheffield @ May 16 2005,...   May 17 2005, 01:28 AM
- - frostPDP   True, but for a team of sociopathic runners with a...   May 17 2005, 02:00 AM
- - Kagetenshi   I find it very unlikely that the team would shrug ...   May 17 2005, 02:08 AM
- - frostPDP   Truth - Never really seen much by way of Otaku. B...   May 17 2005, 08:46 AM
- - Sheffield   QUOTE (FrostyNSO) QUOTE (Penta @ May 16 2005,...   May 17 2005, 01:11 PM
- - Kagetenshi   There's a difference between what one ought to...   May 17 2005, 02:21 PM
- - Smiley   It's not to say that every guard should expect...   May 17 2005, 02:22 PM
- - Sheffield   Okay, to try and make sense out of that: The most ...   May 17 2005, 02:30 PM
- - Gambitt   This is kind of off topic, but just reminded me of...   May 17 2005, 02:40 PM
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