May 20 2005, 12:02 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 442 Joined: 23-April 04 From: Pennsylvania Member No.: 6,280 |
I'm confused. Because, the way people are talking, dice mechanics and nouns are all that ever made the Shadowrun games stand on its own two feet.
I've read the FAQs, I happen to like the direction they're going. Other people don't. Thats ok. But people, FANPRO is not going to publish crap. No company starts out its day trying to alienate its dedicated consumer fan base. Does it seem like no one over there is listening to you? Maybe. Maybe they're too busy busting their butt to make a great game? I don't care if they call riggers/deckers "Hackers" its just a noun. Same with "Technomancers". I mean, you're talking about a game with orcs and trolls and happy fairies intermingling with cyber punk. And you think the word Technomancer is silly! This is a silly game. The books are laden with dumb jokes, humorous quips and a comical presentation. This is a game that takes the traditional images, the stereotypes, and just blows them out of the water. Half the fun is the hokey window dressing that hides the deep and abiding respect for the product. And the people bothered with the dice! Its so insane. Do you really think they're going to completely trash the ability to act tactically in a combat situation? They may not have "Combat Pools" (uh oh, more nouns, everyone prepare some poo to fling) as such, but I'm confident that they know what makes combat fun, and I'm confident that they're not going to completely ruin it somehow, "accidently". So much cynicism. No wonder people don't have any respect for roleplayers. |
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Nerbert Why all the hate? May 20 2005, 12:02 AM
Wounded Ronin I thought that lack of respect for role players wa... May 20 2005, 12:14 AM
Ellery QUOTE The way people are talking, dice mechanics a... May 20 2005, 12:32 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Nerbert) But people, FANPRO is not going to... May 20 2005, 01:13 AM
Charon QUOTE (Ellery @ May 19 2005, 07:32 PM) Mechan... May 20 2005, 01:24 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Charon) What prevents a PC from using a sni... May 20 2005, 01:29 AM
BookWyrm What all the hate & distrust comes from is typ... May 20 2005, 01:38 AM
Ellery Social modifiers don't need to be modifers to ... May 20 2005, 01:41 AM
Charon QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ May 19 2005, 08:29 PM) QU... May 20 2005, 01:45 AM
mfb and even then, you can just make those guys swim a... May 20 2005, 01:45 AM
Typhon I think the Social Pentalty for armor stems from t... May 20 2005, 01:49 AM
Charon QUOTE (mfb) you can't shoot four guys in one a... May 20 2005, 01:51 AM
Ellery QUOTE Heard of FFBA and Armante?
If you don't... May 20 2005, 01:52 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Charon) "Oh no, my sniper rifle can... May 20 2005, 01:55 AM
Charon QUOTE (Ellery) QUOTE Heard of FFBA and Armante?
I... May 20 2005, 02:01 AM
Charon QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ May 19 2005, 08:55 PM) QU... May 20 2005, 02:11 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Charon) This is Shadowrun. Suprressive fir... May 20 2005, 02:17 AM
Shadow QUOTE (Ellery) QUOTE Heard of FFBA and Armante?
I... May 20 2005, 02:23 AM
Charon QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ May 19 2005, 09:17 PM) QU... May 20 2005, 02:46 AM
scoundrel I think the key difference between shooting someon... May 20 2005, 02:56 AM
Kagetenshi Charon: now try suppressing four attackers instead... May 20 2005, 03:00 AM
Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (Nerbert @ May 19 2005, 06:02 PM) I... May 20 2005, 03:11 AM
scoundrel Suppressive fire is also awesome for shooting invi... May 20 2005, 03:11 AM
Wounded Ronin In terms of HYPER REALISM OF DRAMA, using a ... May 20 2005, 03:21 AM
Crimsondude 2.0 Wow, such an incredibly rapid devolution into an O... May 20 2005, 03:22 AM
Wounded Ronin It's because we all secretly desire M1s and ma... May 20 2005, 03:23 AM
Snow_Fox QUOTE (BookWyrm) What all the hate & distrust ... May 20 2005, 03:34 AM
Ellery I don't even mind shelling out money for a boo... May 20 2005, 04:16 AM
Critias QUOTE (Charon) This is Shadowrun. Suprressive fir... May 20 2005, 04:16 AM
mfb suppressive fire used the way it's supposed to... May 20 2005, 04:55 AM
Critias Not that it matters, since CP is on the way out th... May 20 2005, 05:13 AM
fistandantilus3.0 ... and the number C May 20 2005, 05:14 AM
Cain QUOTE I'm confused. Because, the way people ar... May 20 2005, 05:41 AM
Critias QUOTE (Cain) Add to this the natural resistance to... May 20 2005, 06:03 AM
Crimsondude 2.0 One of the things that took me a while to realize ... May 20 2005, 08:22 AM
The White Dwarf I hate because Im paid to. Its in my contract wit... May 20 2005, 10:38 AM
Nerbert QUOTE (Critias) I don't see where the confusio... May 20 2005, 03:21 PM
Charon QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0) And sometimes, in the most... May 20 2005, 04:22 PM
Cheops You're right Nerbert...they're replacing D... May 20 2005, 05:39 PM
Nerbert QUOTE You're right Nerbert...they're repla... May 20 2005, 06:22 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Nerbert) The problem with Open Tests is tha... May 20 2005, 06:49 PM
The White Dwarf Thats one of the things thats likley to change whe... May 20 2005, 08:05 PM
Mongoose QUOTE What prevents a PC from using a sniper rifl... May 21 2005, 01:07 AM
Charon QUOTE (Mongoose) QUOTE What prevents a PC from us... May 21 2005, 01:33 AM
nick012000 QUOTE (Charon) QUOTE (Mongoose @ May 20 2005,... May 21 2005, 02:48 AM
Cain QUOTE WoD also has two different sets of universal... May 21 2005, 02:54 AM
Snow_Fox QUOTE More attributes doesn't increase rules c... May 21 2005, 03:15 AM
Hell Hound QUOTE Oh, bulldrek. Adding new base attributes alw... May 21 2005, 03:43 AM
Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (Snow_Fox) I don't think we don't di... May 21 2005, 05:03 AM
Cain QUOTE More attributes does not guarantee more argu... May 21 2005, 05:13 AM
Mongoose QUOTE house rule...
I chooose those cases because... May 21 2005, 05:13 AM
Ellery QUOTE If essence remains functionally the same and... May 21 2005, 05:34 AM
Adam QUOTE Who are these mysterious "publishers... May 21 2005, 06:00 AM
Ellery Cool, thanks, Adam. Interesting info! May 21 2005, 06:07 AM
Critias Most of the tension isn't caused just by disag... May 21 2005, 07:17 AM
JongWK QUOTE (Critias) If someone you like is about to go... May 21 2005, 07:22 AM
Jrayjoker You come here for the sanity?
LOL
The only wr... May 21 2005, 12:59 PM
Snow_Fox QUOTE (Critias @ May 21 2005, 02:17 AM) Most ... May 21 2005, 09:11 PM
Snow_Fox QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0 @ May 21 2005, 12:03 A... May 21 2005, 09:18 PM
Ellery The RPG market as a whole is shrinking. There are... May 21 2005, 09:47 PM
Ellery Contrast and compare this with what FanPro is doin... May 21 2005, 09:54 PM
Critias QUOTE (Snow_Fox) QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0 @ May... May 21 2005, 09:56 PM
Adam QUOTE It isn't like a delayed SB, to have volu... May 21 2005, 10:16 PM
Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (Critias) QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ May 21 2005... May 21 2005, 10:29 PM
Snow_Fox qu'est que vous dite? May 21 2005, 10:36 PM
Crimsondude 2.0 An English to typoed English translator. May 21 2005, 10:41 PM
Critias Dollar a word, bay-bee. May 21 2005, 11:24 PM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Snow_Fox) qu'est que vous dite?
... May 22 2005, 12:12 AM
Charon " Qu'est-ce que vous dites ? "
and ... May 22 2005, 12:23 AM
JongWK QUOTE (Jrayjoker)You come here for the sanity?
L... May 22 2005, 08:42 AM
nick012000 QUOTE (JongWK) [QUOTE=Jrayjoker]... Given the grow... May 22 2005, 09:13 AM
The White Dwarf Nay.
But the odds of delusional Pax loyalist Otak... May 22 2005, 09:37 AM
Adam Jesus; they're missing like 8 billion of my cr... May 22 2005, 09:41 AM
Eyeless Blond QUOTE (Ellery) Contrast and compare this with what... May 22 2005, 02:35 PM
Snow_Fox QUOTE (Charon) " Qu'est-ce que vous dites... May 22 2005, 03:28 PM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (nick012000)
Does that mean we'll be se... May 22 2005, 04:37 PM
warrior_allanon QUOTE (JongWK)
QUOTE (Jrayjoker)Anger = fear poin... May 22 2005, 06:51 PM
hobgoblin QUOTE (JongWK @ May 22 2005, 10:42 AM) Given ... May 22 2005, 08:45 PM
Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (JongWK)Understandable, though I'd sugge... May 22 2005, 09:17 PM
Ellery Fear is an emotional response that encourages peop... May 22 2005, 09:19 PM
Crimsondude 2.0 I'm not afraid of anything. I'm especially... May 22 2005, 09:27 PM
mfb yeah. when the news about SR4 came out, i was jump... May 22 2005, 09:50 PM
Charon QUOTE (Snow_Fox) QUOTE (Charon @ May 21 2005,... May 22 2005, 10:04 PM
Hasagwan Sadly I have to agree with those (eye_lessblond, c... May 22 2005, 11:58 PM
hobgoblin maybe we should ask why they are not putting out m... May 23 2005, 01:09 AM
Chance359 Why all the hate? Simple, because we care to much... May 23 2005, 01:15 AM
Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (hobgoblin) maybe we should ask why they are... May 23 2005, 01:49 AM
Nerbert I'm a pathetic addict to World of Warcraft, an... May 23 2005, 01:55 AM
hobgoblin QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0) QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Ma... May 23 2005, 02:03 AM
Critias QUOTE (hobgoblin) i wonder how this forum will tur... May 23 2005, 02:06 AM
hobgoblin i dont expect it to be, im starting to know the ki... May 23 2005, 02:17 AM
Critias So have most of the rest of us. We're just no... May 23 2005, 02:26 AM
Snow_Fox QUOTE (Hasagwan @ May 22 2005, 06:58 PM) Sadl... May 23 2005, 02:50 AM
Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (hobgoblin) QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0 @ Ma... May 23 2005, 03:26 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (hobgoblin) maybe we should ask why they are... May 23 2005, 04:16 AM
hobgoblin QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ May 23 2005, 04:50 AM) I th... May 23 2005, 07:51 AM
Ellery The Ars Magica 5 book's been out for a while. ... May 23 2005, 10:40 AM
Hasagwan QUOTE (hobgoblin) QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ May 23 20... May 23 2005, 11:05 AM
hobgoblin hmm, if they wrote the quoted description after th... May 23 2005, 01:29 PM
Grimtooth I was looking forward to going to Origins just bec... May 23 2005, 02:20 PM![]() ![]() |
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