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post Jun 22 2005, 07:48 AM
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I was reading about this on CNN and it got me thinking. According to the article the raid was planned as a message to other gang members about what happens when police officers get killed. (I could be wrong but that's the gist of the article that I got). My question is this: would this ever happen in your campaign setting? How retaliatory is Lonestar (or whatever security firm/actual police force you use) in your game? What other forces do you bring to bear on players who get a little too forgetful of those on the other side of the law? Any examples would be greatly appreciated as I'm looking for something to subtly (or not so subtly) nudge a few characters back into watching their backs a little bit more.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, ya'll.
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- Plan B   Taking another look at LoneStar   Jun 22 2005, 07:48 AM
- - Kagetenshi   The thing to do here is to show them that if they ...   Jun 22 2005, 07:58 AM
- - toturi   That raid is really stupid if it was meant to be r...   Jun 22 2005, 08:13 AM
- - FrostyNSO   Hehe, in one of my games, Lonestar was getting hur...   Jun 22 2005, 08:23 AM
- - Kagetenshi   I doubt they'll even enter the Barrens. They m...   Jun 22 2005, 08:24 AM
- - FrostyNSO   New Seattle says they'll go in if you really p...   Jun 22 2005, 08:26 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   I would love t osee my players face when they see ...   Jun 22 2005, 08:32 AM
- - FrostyNSO   QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0) I would love t osee my p...   Jun 22 2005, 08:37 AM
- - Kagetenshi   But they're in the neighborhood. That makes th...   Jun 22 2005, 08:39 AM
- - FrostyNSO   Good point.   Jun 22 2005, 08:40 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   I guess it depends on the Corp to Cop ratio of Lon...   Jun 22 2005, 10:46 AM
- - Grinder   Some LS officers would likely start their own litt...   Jun 22 2005, 10:54 AM
- - Critias   I'd amend that with "it's not normall...   Jun 22 2005, 11:11 AM
- - lollerskates   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)The thing to do here is to show ...   Jun 22 2005, 02:12 PM
- - Edward   The difficulty with a strike of that type is that ...   Jun 22 2005, 03:00 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   So noted. This is a Mogadishu scenario waiting to ...   Jun 22 2005, 03:01 PM
- - Jrayjoker   Both scenarios (all out strike, and just get the o...   Jun 22 2005, 03:27 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (lollerskates @ Jun 22 2005, 09:12 AM) ...   Jun 22 2005, 03:28 PM
- - Sicarius   Even if it is a corps, its a para-military organiz...   Jun 22 2005, 03:52 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Any case of a cop going into a Z-zone is a threat ...   Jun 22 2005, 03:54 PM
- - Cynic project   The way i see lonestart is this, the enforce teh l...   Jun 22 2005, 03:57 PM
- - Qillin   yeah Frosty really stunned us good the gang war. w...   Jun 22 2005, 03:59 PM
- - mmu1   QUOTE (Sicarius @ Jun 22 2005, 10:52 AM) Whil...   Jun 22 2005, 04:02 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   The way I see it, the Barrens are like Mogadishu a...   Jun 22 2005, 04:09 PM
- - Jrayjoker   Nah, you'd be in for a long term infestation/i...   Jun 22 2005, 04:14 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   And if gangs "rise up" against a Lone St...   Jun 22 2005, 04:21 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE Cops have to be visible (I know there is und...   Jun 22 2005, 04:27 PM
- - Jrayjoker   Pure, unadulterated evidence that people are stupi...   Jun 22 2005, 04:26 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Austere, I think you severely underestimate the qu...   Jun 22 2005, 04:36 PM
- - Kagetenshi   More to the point, the idiot criminals are the one...   Jun 22 2005, 04:48 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)But some of those hooders ...   Jun 22 2005, 04:48 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   If it's a toss-up between being rousted by the...   Jun 22 2005, 05:00 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)If it's coming down to...   Jun 22 2005, 05:01 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator @ Jun 22 2005, 11:...   Jun 22 2005, 05:03 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)There's also the fact that p...   Jun 22 2005, 05:07 PM
- - Sicarius   QUOTE]Except that today - in the US at least - the...   Jun 22 2005, 05:22 PM
- - weblife   The Barrens are full of people. Normal, civilian, ...   Jun 22 2005, 05:32 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) So if your team had so...   Jun 22 2005, 05:32 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Sicarius)But even with the popular Mogadish...   Jun 22 2005, 05:46 PM
- - nezumi   Odd. I'd say no. After all, your neighbors w...   Jun 22 2005, 05:46 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)Yes. Anything else encourages si...   Jun 22 2005, 05:51 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Runners have turf, too. And like the gangs, they...   Jun 22 2005, 06:02 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)So yes, if I had advanced ...   Jun 22 2005, 06:04 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) I still have to wonder...   Jun 22 2005, 06:09 PM
- - shadow_scholar   holy crap, how often do you GMs let runners kill c...   Jun 22 2005, 06:30 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Do you make cops get paid meaningfully more than j...   Jun 22 2005, 06:39 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)It's not about protecting th...   Jun 22 2005, 06:39 PM
- - Kagetenshi   That means not being a Shadowrunner. We can start ...   Jun 22 2005, 06:40 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Oh, right, and I remember one of your threads abou...   Jun 22 2005, 06:54 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Kagentoshi, you forgot about Bob's Discount Gu...   Jun 22 2005, 06:57 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Even if you aren't touching a single LS employ...   Jun 22 2005, 06:57 PM
- - shadow_scholar   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Jun 22 2005, 01:39 PM) Do...   Jun 22 2005, 07:08 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   There's a world of difference between killing ...   Jun 22 2005, 07:11 PM
- - Critias   All I can say is it looks like about five differen...   Jun 22 2005, 07:13 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Critias)another about precise overwhelming ...   Jun 22 2005, 07:13 PM
- - Cynic project   One thing I am noticing about this thread is how m...   Jun 22 2005, 07:14 PM
- - nezumi   The thing that surprises me is anyone assumes the ...   Jun 22 2005, 07:25 PM
- - shadow_scholar   QUOTE (Cynic project) One thing I am noticing abou...   Jun 22 2005, 07:31 PM
- - Req   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) shadow_scholar: Beslan...   Jun 22 2005, 07:33 PM
- - Cynic project   QUOTE (shadow_scholar) QUOTE (Cynic project ...   Jun 22 2005, 08:42 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (Cynic project) we can and litarily piss mon...   Jun 22 2005, 08:55 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (nezumi) If they are going to make a raid in...   Jun 22 2005, 09:40 PM
- - shadow_scholar   QUOTE (Cynic project) Maybe you don't get it, ...   Jun 22 2005, 09:43 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (shadow_scholar) I'm not sure where you...   Jun 22 2005, 10:05 PM
- - lollerskates   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)The majority of Lone Star consis...   Jun 22 2005, 10:26 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE And BitBasher, please remember that we'r...   Jun 22 2005, 10:31 PM
- - lollerskates   collateral isn't hollywood? collateral?   Jun 22 2005, 10:53 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (lollerskates) collateral isn't hollywoo...   Jun 22 2005, 11:43 PM
- - Cynic project   QUOTE (shadow_scholar) QUOTE (Cynic project ...   Jun 23 2005, 12:19 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Well of course the whole world is fucked up. That...   Jun 23 2005, 12:25 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (lollerskates) then cut a deal with those ho...   Jun 23 2005, 12:53 AM
- - lollerskates   QUOTE (toturi)How much do you think you'd bet ...   Jun 23 2005, 01:15 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (lollerskates) that really depends on whom y...   Jun 23 2005, 01:44 AM
- - lollerskates   QUOTE (toturi)Yeah, but what about the 10 other ga...   Jun 23 2005, 01:58 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (nezumi @ Jun 22 200...   Jun 23 2005, 05:31 AM
- - lollerskates   QUOTE (hyzmarca)Why haven't they done it alrea...   Jun 23 2005, 05:37 AM
- - Supercilious   The Barrens would chew the 'Star up and spit t...   Jun 23 2005, 06:12 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Supercilious) The Barrens would chew the ...   Jun 23 2005, 06:39 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   Just a couple of thoughts to throw out real quick:...   Jun 23 2005, 06:40 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   I don't think it would happen. After all, th...   Jun 23 2005, 09:30 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)So yeah. Lone Star going i...   Jun 23 2005, 02:06 PM
- - toturi   If you see gangs as mere street gangs, maybe they ...   Jun 23 2005, 03:11 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) It's not something they can...   Jun 23 2005, 03:53 PM
- - mfb   you guys are talking about two completely differen...   Jun 23 2005, 04:07 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Even a quick raid with overwhelming force seems im...   Jun 23 2005, 04:15 PM
- - shadow_scholar   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)Probably NAGNA. I checked my NA...   Jun 23 2005, 04:52 PM
- - BitBasher   I think most folks here are giving gangers way too...   Jun 23 2005, 04:51 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Even a quick raid with overwhel...   Jun 23 2005, 05:10 PM
- - FrostyNSO   Just look at the weaponry included with the Troll ...   Jun 23 2005, 05:22 PM
- - The Archimage   Trying to coordinate all the gangs to work togethe...   Jun 23 2005, 05:55 PM
- - Nikoli   Simple then, once the coalition is formed of the v...   Jun 23 2005, 06:14 PM
- - mmu1   QUOTE (mfb) QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Even a quick raid w...   Jun 23 2005, 06:14 PM
- - nezumi   Or that really no one needs those particular highw...   Jun 23 2005, 07:19 PM
- - PBTHHHHT   Argh, listening to all these arguments back and fo...   Jun 23 2005, 09:11 PM
- - Supercilious   A raid will work, I think we all agree on that. It...   Jun 26 2005, 12:16 AM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (Supercilious) A lone sniper can hold back a...   Jun 26 2005, 01:03 AM
- - FrostyNSO   And if the mage isn't available, I'm sure ...   Jun 26 2005, 01:12 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Until your elementals and precious mages get their...   Jun 26 2005, 01:13 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Frosty: They've tried that before. Not only is...   Jun 26 2005, 01:15 AM
- - FrostyNSO   It's alot easier to lure the ones that do end ...   Jun 26 2005, 01:16 AM
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