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This may be difficult to pull off as a shadowrunner, but really, a troll with a bow, would make an excellent assassin.

Bows: (Min Str+2)P damage. If you can max out a Troll's strength to 15 (granted, not the easiest of tasks, but doable with enough augmentation), your range would rival all but the sniper weapon for range... I believe the limit on extreme range (I don't have my SR4 book WITH me) would be 900. That's pretty darn good.

Something seems a bit unbalanced about that, especially considering that's with JUST an arrow. If you take an injection arrow, you can get not only 17P (which will even kill a Body 15 troll), but additional damage from whatever you stick IN the arrow.

Well, you say, you can only get one shot off with a bow, compared to guns. This is true, you need to ready weapon THEN shoot it each time. But, compared to a 4P, or 5P gun, even two shots from that (where they get to resist EACH damage) isn't nearly as good as one arrow.

If you consider additional die from 'Take aim' and if you can negate the extreme range penalties with vision augmentations...

Wow.
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- Theo   Best SR4 Assassin   Aug 30 2005, 03:13 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   "You're going to backstab him with a ball...   Aug 30 2005, 03:20 PM
- - Darkness   Off topic: Is there anyone who doesn't know th...   Aug 30 2005, 03:22 PM
- - mintcar   Maybe (str/4 rounded up)+4 P damage and a lower ca...   Aug 30 2005, 03:23 PM
- - blakkie   How would Take Aim work there? Would you notch an ...   Aug 30 2005, 03:26 PM
- - Theo   QUOTE (blakkie) How would Take Aim work there? Wou...   Aug 30 2005, 03:30 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   As for melee weapons the damage is AFAIK (Str/2+X)...   Aug 30 2005, 03:31 PM
- - mintcar   I guess a str 15 bow would really BE a ballista wh...   Aug 30 2005, 03:32 PM
- - mintcar   QUOTE As for melee weapons the damage is AFAIK (mi...   Aug 30 2005, 03:35 PM
- - Spookymonster   QUOTE (Darkness) Off topic: Is there anyone who do...   Aug 30 2005, 03:36 PM
- - tirsales   Film: "The Gamers". Scene: "In the ...   Aug 30 2005, 03:57 PM
- - Gambitt   Ahhh the classic Trolls with bows thread, how it m...   Aug 30 2005, 04:39 PM
- - Clyde   I'm a lot less worried about trolls with bows ...   Aug 30 2005, 04:47 PM
- - Theo   QUOTE (Clyde) I'm a lot less worried about tro...   Aug 30 2005, 04:56 PM
- - mintcar   QUOTE (tirsales) Film: "The Gamers". Sce...   Aug 30 2005, 05:11 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   It's even on IMDb!   Aug 30 2005, 05:21 PM
- - hahnsoo   Blarg. This is quite overpowered, although I...   Aug 30 2005, 05:44 PM
- - Conskill   QUOTE (hahnsoo) Blarg. This is quite overpowered,...   Aug 30 2005, 07:11 PM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Conskill) Perfectly fine to put an upper sa...   Aug 30 2005, 07:13 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Well, as said... it would be literally a ballista.   Aug 30 2005, 07:17 PM
- - Clyde   Look, it's all academic. If you want to let y...   Aug 30 2005, 07:19 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Clyde) Look, it's all academic. If you...   Aug 30 2005, 07:24 PM
- - hahnsoo   Also, no matter how powerful the troll, the arrow ...   Aug 30 2005, 07:30 PM
- - Theo   QUOTE (hahnsoo) Also, no matter how powerful the t...   Aug 30 2005, 07:35 PM
- - wagnern   Welcome to S-mart, how can I help you? Troll Bows...   Aug 30 2005, 07:39 PM
- - mintcar   Before I forget... Are really all melee weapons mi...   Aug 30 2005, 07:41 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   min & melee was my mistake... as edited.   Aug 30 2005, 07:43 PM
- - mintcar   <huge sigh of relief>   Aug 30 2005, 07:44 PM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Theo) Can you Missile Parry when you're...   Aug 30 2005, 07:46 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (wagnern @ Aug 30 2005, 09:39 PM) Welco...   Aug 30 2005, 07:48 PM
- - Req   QUOTE (hobgoblin) QUOTE (wagnern @ Aug 30 200...   Aug 30 2005, 09:21 PM
- - reconsweden   A high power troll bow will be made in SR just as ...   Aug 30 2005, 09:53 PM
- - Conskill   I have to admit, my knowledge of the physics of bo...   Aug 30 2005, 10:33 PM
- - hyzmarca   That depends on how Strength 15 translates into po...   Aug 30 2005, 10:49 PM
- - blakkie   I think the real physics question here is if havin...   Aug 30 2005, 11:16 PM
- - hahnsoo   Yeah, most of the sources I've seen in my rath...   Aug 30 2005, 11:26 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   I really know two things about bows and well jack ...   Aug 31 2005, 06:32 AM
- - Voorhees   QUOTE (reconsweden) A high power troll bow will be...   Aug 31 2005, 06:42 AM
- - Crusher Bob   A defense against sudden ego deflation. As for th...   Aug 31 2005, 07:19 AM
- - Jürgen Hubert   QUOTE (hahnsoo)Blarg.  This is quite overpowe...   Aug 31 2005, 11:01 AM
- - evil1i   http://www.unifi.it/unifi/surfchem/solid/b...ry/sc...   Sep 30 2005, 07:24 AM
- - Eagle   The one thing that concerns me is the cheese wire ...   Sep 30 2005, 10:21 AM
- - Xenith   Turning a strange/high powered rules set up into a...   Sep 30 2005, 11:45 AM
- - snowRaven   Yeah - the main thing preventing such insan troll-...   Sep 30 2005, 12:17 PM
- - Ancient History   Bah. The best SR4 assassin is the hacker or techno...   Sep 30 2005, 12:19 PM
- - Shadow_Prophet   Well first, firing a STR 15 bow would put out enou...   Sep 30 2005, 01:09 PM
- - tirsales   But it would be pretty impressive ... Body lying o...   Sep 30 2005, 05:40 PM
- - Synner667   Hmmm.. ..Interesting reading. I do think that man...   Oct 2 2005, 05:35 PM
- - warrior_allanon   QUOTE (Synner667) Also, anyone remem the magical ...   Oct 2 2005, 08:15 PM
- - Siege   This also goes back to the arguments about troll-c...   Oct 2 2005, 09:10 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Synner667) Hmmm.. ..Interesting reading. I...   Oct 2 2005, 09:53 PM
- - Waltermandias   QUOTE (Voorhees)QUOTE (reconsweden @ Aug 30 2...   May 29 2006, 07:05 PM
- - hobgoblin   hmm, it makes me think of the scene in the first b...   May 29 2006, 07:15 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Waltermandias @ May 29 2006, 01:05 PM)...   May 29 2006, 09:04 PM
- - Shrike30   The solution my parents took when they went kayaki...   May 30 2006, 04:47 AM


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