Sep 15 2005, 10:55 PM
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Carried over from the discussion over what constitutes railroading, add a new question:
Independent of terminology, is plot structure a desirable thing for playing Shadowrun? (Add also in here that if yes: what level of GM manipulation is acceptable to keep characters on-plot?) |
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Talia Invierno GMing a plotline Sep 15 2005, 10:55 PM
Kagetenshi Yes, and no level.
~J Sep 16 2005, 01:02 AM
Taran Yes, and none. Sep 16 2005, 01:06 AM
toturi Yes, and minimal GM manipulation within canon rule... Sep 16 2005, 01:21 AM
Dawnshadow Yes. GM manipulation? Shouldn't be required. Sep 16 2005, 01:52 AM
Fox1 You'd have to define plot structure for me bef... Sep 16 2005, 02:31 AM
Talia Invierno Okay, ???? Please, someone, explain to me how the... Sep 16 2005, 02:31 AM
toturi A plotline is desirable, but it does not mean that... Sep 16 2005, 02:45 AM
Dawnshadow A plot that gets top marks doesn't require GM ... Sep 16 2005, 02:53 AM
Slump In my personal opinion, a plotline consists of two... Sep 16 2005, 02:58 AM
hyzmarca The important thing about a major plot is that it ... Sep 16 2005, 03:06 AM
Talia Invierno Dawnshadow: "web-based" link
For everyo... Sep 16 2005, 03:12 AM
Dawnshadow Many thanks for the link Talia. Sep 16 2005, 03:33 AM
Sabosect QUOTE (Slump) The difference between 'good plo... Sep 16 2005, 04:03 AM
Glyph The difference between a plot and railroading is t... Sep 16 2005, 04:37 AM
Fortune Well said Glyph. Sep 16 2005, 04:49 AM
eidolon Voted "yes, with provisions". And anoth... Sep 16 2005, 06:05 AM
hahnsoo I think most people have to admit, though, that ev... Sep 16 2005, 06:40 AM
Supercilious Murder On the Downtown Express. Sep 16 2005, 06:59 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (hahnsoo) I think most people have to admit,... Sep 16 2005, 07:31 AM
coolgrafix QUOTE (Glyph @ Sep 15 2005, 11:37 PM) The dif... Sep 16 2005, 07:48 AM
Conskill Part of this debate, I think, boils down to whethe... Sep 16 2005, 10:00 AM
hahnsoo I don't think that it is polarized between ... Sep 16 2005, 10:23 AM
Conskill To be honest, I do have trouble seeing it as a pla... Sep 16 2005, 11:06 AM
Mercer When I design a game, the overall plot generally l... Sep 16 2005, 11:22 AM
hahnsoo QUOTE (Conskill @ Sep 16 2005, 06:06 AM) To b... Sep 16 2005, 11:31 AM
Sicarius My style is to set the table, and let the characte... Sep 16 2005, 11:34 AM
Mercer Sic reminded me of another point. If you have unm... Sep 16 2005, 11:47 AM
Fox1 QUOTE (hahnsoo) The objection to "railroading... Sep 16 2005, 01:12 PM
nezumi As long as the GM is willing to throw (or more pre... Sep 16 2005, 01:55 PM
Dawnshadow Mercer has a really good explanation for what I th... Sep 16 2005, 02:22 PM
PlainWhiteSocks QUOTE (Dawnshadow)As for railroading: any time the... Sep 16 2005, 03:53 PM
Jrayjoker Voted "Yes, with provisions."
I like to... Sep 16 2005, 03:57 PM
Fox1 QUOTE (PlainWhiteSocks) For me it’s like contrasti... Sep 16 2005, 04:12 PM
toturi QUOTE (Fox1) Railroading is not necessary a bad th... Sep 16 2005, 04:14 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Fox1 @ Sep 16 2005, 11:12 AM) Railroad... Sep 16 2005, 04:33 PM
Fox1 QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Sep 16 2005, 11:33 AM) QU... Sep 16 2005, 04:44 PM
Clyde You're wrong on that one Kage. Railroading is... Sep 16 2005, 04:48 PM
booklord Three types of railroading.....
1) Capturing the ... Sep 16 2005, 05:42 PM
Mercer QUOTE (Dawnshadow @ Sep 16 2005, 02:22 PM) 1)... Sep 16 2005, 10:31 PM
Snow_Fox It is usually how i run an adventure when I GM. I ... Sep 17 2005, 01:52 AM
Dog I agree with what Mercer said earlier about unimag... Sep 17 2005, 03:39 AM
M.A.L.E-man No scenario, no matter how well planned, and despi... Sep 17 2005, 04:56 AM
Mercer Or morons. They can straight screw up a scenario ... Sep 17 2005, 10:27 AM
Snow_Fox The planning of players or the lack of iut is what... Sep 17 2005, 03:11 PM
Earthwalker I use a plot stucture of how I exspect a run to go... Sep 25 2005, 10:18 AM
toturi QUOTE (Earthwalker) Is this railroading ?
I exspe... Sep 25 2005, 12:10 PM
Earthwalker By self defeating its the open forum of the planni... Sep 25 2005, 12:40 PM
toturi Then why didn't say that the contact that gave... Sep 25 2005, 12:50 PM
Earthwalker I guess it all depends. If the players got that st... Sep 25 2005, 02:11 PM
Talia Invierno QUOTE Work was hard, so we quit.
- Bart Simpson
He... Sep 26 2005, 03:38 PM
Crusher Bob Part of the problem is that when a runs goes bad, ... Sep 26 2005, 03:54 PM
Talia Invierno Heh, look what I found.
I do understand the patte... Sep 26 2005, 05:02 PM
Shadow_Prophet I know I'm getting into this late, and no I ha... Sep 26 2005, 05:43 PM
Kyoto Kid QUOTE (Crusher Bob)Part of the problem is that whe... Sep 28 2005, 09:08 PM
Wounded Ronin Well, I used to think that railroading = bad, and ... Jan 20 2006, 05:10 AM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)
If anything I err on the Fine... Jan 20 2006, 05:20 AM
Ed Simons QUOTE (coolgrafix)Sometimes "railroading... Jan 22 2006, 06:44 PM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Talia Invierno)
Yet when the roleplaying ... Jan 22 2006, 09:55 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Wounded Ronin) I would argue that with the ... Jan 23 2006, 02:57 AM
Dog Ed's comments have piqued my interest, because... Jan 23 2006, 01:19 PM![]() ![]() |
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