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Independent of terminology, is plot structure a desirable thing for playing Shadowrun?
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Talia Invierno
post Sep 15 2005, 10:55 PM
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Carried over from the discussion over what constitutes railroading, add a new question:

Independent of terminology, is plot structure a desirable thing for playing Shadowrun? (Add also in here that if yes: what level of GM manipulation is acceptable to keep characters on-plot?)
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- Talia Invierno   GMing a plotline   Sep 15 2005, 10:55 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Yes, and no level. ~J   Sep 16 2005, 01:02 AM
- - Taran   Yes, and none.   Sep 16 2005, 01:06 AM
- - toturi   Yes, and minimal GM manipulation within canon rule...   Sep 16 2005, 01:21 AM
- - Dawnshadow   Yes. GM manipulation? Shouldn't be required.   Sep 16 2005, 01:52 AM
- - Fox1   You'd have to define plot structure for me bef...   Sep 16 2005, 02:31 AM
- - Talia Invierno   Okay, ???? Please, someone, explain to me how the...   Sep 16 2005, 02:31 AM
- - toturi   A plotline is desirable, but it does not mean that...   Sep 16 2005, 02:45 AM
- - Dawnshadow   A plot that gets top marks doesn't require GM ...   Sep 16 2005, 02:53 AM
- - Slump   In my personal opinion, a plotline consists of two...   Sep 16 2005, 02:58 AM
- - hyzmarca   The important thing about a major plot is that it ...   Sep 16 2005, 03:06 AM
- - Talia Invierno   Dawnshadow: "web-based" link For everyo...   Sep 16 2005, 03:12 AM
- - Dawnshadow   Many thanks for the link Talia.   Sep 16 2005, 03:33 AM
- - Sabosect   QUOTE (Slump) The difference between 'good plo...   Sep 16 2005, 04:03 AM
- - Glyph   The difference between a plot and railroading is t...   Sep 16 2005, 04:37 AM
- - Fortune   Well said Glyph.   Sep 16 2005, 04:49 AM
- - eidolon   Voted "yes, with provisions". And anoth...   Sep 16 2005, 06:05 AM
- - hahnsoo   I think most people have to admit, though, that ev...   Sep 16 2005, 06:40 AM
- - Supercilious   Murder On the Downtown Express.   Sep 16 2005, 06:59 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (hahnsoo) I think most people have to admit,...   Sep 16 2005, 07:31 AM
- - coolgrafix   QUOTE (Glyph @ Sep 15 2005, 11:37 PM) The dif...   Sep 16 2005, 07:48 AM
- - Conskill   Part of this debate, I think, boils down to whethe...   Sep 16 2005, 10:00 AM
- - hahnsoo   I don't think that it is polarized between ...   Sep 16 2005, 10:23 AM
- - Conskill   To be honest, I do have trouble seeing it as a pla...   Sep 16 2005, 11:06 AM
- - Mercer   When I design a game, the overall plot generally l...   Sep 16 2005, 11:22 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Conskill @ Sep 16 2005, 06:06 AM) To b...   Sep 16 2005, 11:31 AM
- - Sicarius   My style is to set the table, and let the characte...   Sep 16 2005, 11:34 AM
- - Mercer   Sic reminded me of another point. If you have unm...   Sep 16 2005, 11:47 AM
- - Fox1   QUOTE (hahnsoo) The objection to "railroading...   Sep 16 2005, 01:12 PM
- - nezumi   As long as the GM is willing to throw (or more pre...   Sep 16 2005, 01:55 PM
- - Dawnshadow   Mercer has a really good explanation for what I th...   Sep 16 2005, 02:22 PM
- - PlainWhiteSocks   QUOTE (Dawnshadow)As for railroading: any time the...   Sep 16 2005, 03:53 PM
- - Jrayjoker   Voted "Yes, with provisions." I like to...   Sep 16 2005, 03:57 PM
- - Fox1   QUOTE (PlainWhiteSocks) For me it’s like contrasti...   Sep 16 2005, 04:12 PM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Fox1) Railroading is not necessary a bad th...   Sep 16 2005, 04:14 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Fox1 @ Sep 16 2005, 11:12 AM) Railroad...   Sep 16 2005, 04:33 PM
- - Fox1   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Sep 16 2005, 11:33 AM) QU...   Sep 16 2005, 04:44 PM
- - Clyde   You're wrong on that one Kage. Railroading is...   Sep 16 2005, 04:48 PM
- - booklord   Three types of railroading..... 1) Capturing the ...   Sep 16 2005, 05:42 PM
- - Mercer   QUOTE (Dawnshadow @ Sep 16 2005, 02:22 PM) 1)...   Sep 16 2005, 10:31 PM
- - Snow_Fox   It is usually how i run an adventure when I GM. I ...   Sep 17 2005, 01:52 AM
- - Dog   I agree with what Mercer said earlier about unimag...   Sep 17 2005, 03:39 AM
- - M.A.L.E-man   No scenario, no matter how well planned, and despi...   Sep 17 2005, 04:56 AM
- - Mercer   Or morons. They can straight screw up a scenario ...   Sep 17 2005, 10:27 AM
- - Snow_Fox   The planning of players or the lack of iut is what...   Sep 17 2005, 03:11 PM
- - Earthwalker   I use a plot stucture of how I exspect a run to go...   Sep 25 2005, 10:18 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Earthwalker) Is this railroading ? I exspe...   Sep 25 2005, 12:10 PM
- - Earthwalker   By self defeating its the open forum of the planni...   Sep 25 2005, 12:40 PM
- - toturi   Then why didn't say that the contact that gave...   Sep 25 2005, 12:50 PM
- - Earthwalker   I guess it all depends. If the players got that st...   Sep 25 2005, 02:11 PM
- - Talia Invierno   QUOTE Work was hard, so we quit. - Bart Simpson He...   Sep 26 2005, 03:38 PM
- - Crusher Bob   Part of the problem is that when a runs goes bad, ...   Sep 26 2005, 03:54 PM
- - Talia Invierno   Heh, look what I found. I do understand the patte...   Sep 26 2005, 05:02 PM
- - Shadow_Prophet   I know I'm getting into this late, and no I ha...   Sep 26 2005, 05:43 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Crusher Bob)Part of the problem is that whe...   Sep 28 2005, 09:08 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   Well, I used to think that railroading = bad, and ...   Jan 20 2006, 05:10 AM
- - Wounded Ronin   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) If anything I err on the Fine...   Jan 20 2006, 05:20 AM
- - Ed Simons   QUOTE (coolgrafix)Sometimes "railroading...   Jan 22 2006, 06:44 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   QUOTE (Talia Invierno) Yet when the roleplaying ...   Jan 22 2006, 09:55 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Wounded Ronin) I would argue that with the ...   Jan 23 2006, 02:57 AM
- - Dog   Ed's comments have piqued my interest, because...   Jan 23 2006, 01:19 PM


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