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Quick question: is using improved invisibility to cheat a camera sensor really hard?

Explanation:
[page 208 SR4A rule book]
Physical illusions are effective against technological systems, assuming the caster achieves enough hits to meet the Object Resistance threshold.

Consulting page 183, a typical camera sensor should be about 4 object resistance, some might even argue that more, but let's stick to 4 for now.

Meaning: you need to have 4 hits on the improved invisibility spell test.
You also need it to be force 4 spell since force limits hits.

I guess the more powerful magicians can do it in their sleep, while drunk. But for a starting shadowrunner with magic 5 and spellcasting of 3-4, (8-9 DP) getting 4 hits would be considered pretty lucky, no?

What I'm trying to say is: I thought doing improved invisibility is a rather easy trick to bypass security cameras, but after reading the book, I guess it's something for the more powerful characters.

And on a related note: should the caster know how good the spell went? Can they judge if it's enough to bypass that camera or should they find out by seeing the security guys running toward them?

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- shon   Improved invisibility vs. security cameras   Nov 25 2010, 03:12 PM
- - Makki   QUOTE (shon @ Nov 25 2010, 05:12 PM) I th...   Nov 25 2010, 03:17 PM
|- - shon   QUOTE (Makki @ Nov 25 2010, 04:17 PM) nob...   Nov 25 2010, 03:27 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (shon @ Nov 25 2010, 05:12 PM) Cons...   Nov 25 2010, 03:32 PM
- - Thanee   Yep, the threshold is 3 to fool sensors and camera...   Nov 25 2010, 03:34 PM
- - Belvidere   I've always played my mages to where they know...   Nov 25 2010, 05:36 PM
- - Draco18s   QUOTE (shon @ Nov 25 2010, 10:12 AM) And ...   Nov 25 2010, 05:44 PM
|- - Belvidere   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Nov 25 2010, 02:44 PM) ...   Nov 25 2010, 05:48 PM
- - Thanee   Why is that cheesy!? Bye Thanee   Nov 25 2010, 06:20 PM
- - shon   Thanks everybody, that explains it. for some reaso...   Nov 25 2010, 09:56 PM
|- - mmmkay   QUOTE (shon @ Nov 25 2010, 02:56 PM) Than...   Nov 26 2010, 12:39 AM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (mmmkay @ Nov 25 2010, 07:39 PM) I...   Nov 26 2010, 01:09 AM
||- - mmmkay   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Nov 25 2010, 05:09 PM) ...   Nov 26 2010, 01:40 AM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (shon @ Nov 25 2010, 04:56 PM) Than...   Nov 26 2010, 03:55 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Nov 26 2010, 05:55 P...   Nov 26 2010, 07:01 PM
- - KarmaInferno   If you really insist on casting it at low Force, t...   Nov 25 2010, 10:20 PM
|- - Ragewind   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Nov 25 2010, 06:20 ...   Nov 27 2010, 08:32 PM
- - Aarakin   Odd..... My PDF copy has it in the third category...   Nov 26 2010, 03:44 AM
- - mmmkay   Ok well for whatever version I have Advanced Plast...   Nov 26 2010, 04:26 AM
|- - Makki   QUOTE (mmmkay @ Nov 26 2010, 06:26 AM) Ok...   Nov 26 2010, 07:53 AM
|- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mmmkay @ Nov 26 2010, 06:26 AM) Ok...   Nov 26 2010, 08:40 AM
- - Thanee   Hmm... my SR4A copies (all three versions, regular...   Nov 26 2010, 07:59 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   And it doesn't matter — their Sensors ar...   Nov 26 2010, 04:32 PM
- - Thanee   Exactly. One should not forget, that the table has...   Nov 26 2010, 06:18 PM
- - Aku   mmm, why are you trying to beat the OR on sensors ...   Nov 26 2010, 08:12 PM
- - Thanee   Because... "Physical illusions are effective...   Nov 26 2010, 08:28 PM
- - Aku   This seems like a contradictory rule then, imo. At...   Nov 27 2010, 12:20 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Wait, what? It's entirely straightforward: you...   Nov 27 2010, 12:24 AM
- - Mäx   What in the rule is contradictory, if the caster g...   Nov 27 2010, 12:24 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Mäx @ Nov 26 2010, 07:24 PM) What ...   Nov 27 2010, 07:23 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 27 2010, 09:23 PM) ...   Nov 27 2010, 07:49 PM
|- - mmmkay   QUOTE (Mäx @ Nov 27 2010, 12:49 PM) Invis...   Nov 27 2010, 10:59 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (mmmkay @ Nov 27 2010, 03:59 PM) Im...   Nov 27 2010, 11:25 PM
- - Tyro   SR4A was going to be 1, 2, 4, 6+, and the first pd...   Nov 27 2010, 09:35 AM
|- - Makki   QUOTE (Tyro @ Nov 27 2010, 11:35 AM) SR4A...   Nov 27 2010, 10:01 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Makki @ Nov 27 2010, 12:01 PM) cry...   Nov 27 2010, 10:22 AM
|- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Makki @ Nov 27 2010, 12:01 PM) cry...   Nov 27 2010, 10:53 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   And the same is true for a character, independent ...   Nov 27 2010, 08:24 PM
- - Karoline   Doesn't it basically just emulate a jammer?   Nov 27 2010, 11:46 PM
- - KarmaInferno   You're not exactly "hiding" your pre...   Nov 27 2010, 11:48 PM
- - mmmkay   I guess chaos/chaff/sense removal (radar) work, bu...   Nov 27 2010, 11:50 PM
|- - Dahrken   QUOTE (mmmkay @ Nov 28 2010, 12:50 AM) Th...   Nov 29 2010, 07:02 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dahrken @ Nov 29 2010, 02:02 AM) S...   Nov 29 2010, 02:46 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I'm not sure that False Impression actually ...   Nov 28 2010, 12:04 AM
- - Omenowl   The only problem you do have is background ratings...   Nov 28 2010, 05:35 AM


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