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BullZeye
post Oct 8 2008, 12:24 PM
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On page 156 of Arsenal the martial arts positive quality is 5 to 20 bp but is it per style? I've seen some builds here on dumpshock that have 35bp worth of martial arts but I rule in my game that 20bp is max but you can take 4 different styles 5bp each but no more than that 20bp.

Which is it? Limiting it to 20bp would remove that +7P damage stacking...
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- BullZeye   Martial arts positive quality   Oct 8 2008, 12:24 PM
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- - Ravor   Street Level Cyberpunk. And of course genre has r...   Oct 11 2008, 12:53 AM
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- - Glyph   I would never call Shadowrun "street level cy...   Oct 11 2008, 02:57 AM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (Glyph @ Oct 10 2008, 07:57 PM) It...   Oct 11 2008, 03:13 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE And of course genre has rules, I think every...   Oct 13 2008, 09:10 PM
- - Ravor   Toturi I disagree, unless my aging memory is faili...   Oct 14 2008, 12:23 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE Toturi I disagree, unless my aging memory is...   Oct 14 2008, 01:41 AM
- - Glyph   You can't really make a character with a ...   Oct 14 2008, 01:51 AM
- - Ravor   True, but I see the problem being in a flawed char...   Oct 14 2008, 01:56 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Ravor @ Oct 13 2008, 06:56 PM) Tru...   Oct 14 2008, 02:40 AM
- - Platinum Dragon   QUOTE (Ravor @ Oct 11 2008, 11:53 AM) And...   Oct 14 2008, 02:09 AM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Platinum Dragon @ Oct 13 2008, 06...   Oct 14 2008, 03:06 AM
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- - Ravor   *chuckles* Aye, so would I Platinum Dragon, but I ...   Oct 14 2008, 03:56 AM
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|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 17 2008, 09:47 PM) You...   Oct 18 2008, 05:07 AM
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|- - BullZeye   QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 18 2008, 11:49 PM) That...   Oct 18 2008, 10:15 PM
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- - ElFenrir   Well, there we have it. At least now it's in w...   Oct 19 2008, 01:04 AM
- - Glyph   That's almost exactly how I felt. I would hav...   Oct 19 2008, 01:15 AM
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