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This question is coming up because of a mage with minor cyberware but to be honest it's a question I've had for years through many editions of shadowrun but I figure now that I've found dumpshock it would be a good time to the address the issue.

My assumption for cyberware has always been that once essence is spent that it is gone forever however once an cyber'd bit is installed it can be upgraded.

For example - Tony the Tiger the ganger purchases a DAtajack, Cybereyes (1) and wired reflexes (1) for .1 + .2 and 2 essence respectively. for a net loss of 2.3 essence


Later on in Tony's career things are good, money is coming in and he makes some good contacts one of which happens to be a street doc with some occasional hot drek tech. The Doc gets a betaware datajack and some alphaware wired reflexes (2) and lets tony know that he's got some new gear, tony has got the cash to spend so he decides to get the upgrades.

Datajack alphaware - .07 essence cost
wired reflexes (2) alphaware - 2.4 essence

Tony has already spent .1 for a datajack and 2 for wired reflexes but since these parts will be removed and replaced with upgraded parts I've always assumed that the essence cost of the original parts creates a gap that is partially filled by the new cyberware.

So

Datajack replacement 1- .07 leaves .03 essence "empty"
Wired reflxes replacement 2 - 2.4 leaves a loss of an additional .4 essence

Means that tony's essence is now reduced by a total of 2.7 essence with a .03 essence in the head gone but empty and unused since essence isn't regained. With that being said MY assumption is that replaced parts leave an essence hole that is filled by the new parts which may or may not be cheaper in essence cost however where applicable essence is not regained it is simply left empty and if a similar part in a similar location is installed that empty essence can then be used to apply to the new cyberware.
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- spongeclip   Cyberware + Essence   Mar 20 2010, 12:30 PM
- - Sengir   QUOTE (spongeclip @ Mar 20 2010, 01:30 PM...   Mar 20 2010, 12:37 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 20 2010, 05:37 AM) Co...   Mar 20 2010, 06:34 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 20 2010, 07...   Mar 21 2010, 07:50 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 21 2010, 12:50 PM) Su...   Mar 22 2010, 02:39 AM
- - DWC   That's pretty much it. You end up with a gap ...   Mar 20 2010, 12:39 PM
- - Fatum   As a matter of fact, Augmentation has all the rule...   Mar 20 2010, 10:19 PM
- - Ego Mcmahon   yeah thats pretty much how ive delt with it in the...   Mar 21 2010, 01:47 AM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (Ego Mcmahon @ Mar 21 2010, 04:47 A...   Mar 21 2010, 01:54 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 20 2010, 08:54 PM) I d...   Mar 21 2010, 03:45 AM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Mar 21 2010, 06:45 AM)...   Mar 21 2010, 04:24 AM
|- - darthmord   QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 20 2010, 11:24 PM) Tha...   Mar 21 2010, 04:56 AM
- - SpellBinder   Would love to see where it's written that you ...   Mar 21 2010, 04:39 AM
- - Falconer   Correct. Augmentation and the rules are very simp...   Mar 21 2010, 04:43 AM
- - SpellBinder   Is there an official errata on this somewhere? It...   Mar 21 2010, 05:20 AM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Mar 21 2010, 01:20 A...   Mar 22 2010, 03:13 AM
|- - HentaiZonga   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Mar 21 2010, 08:13 ...   Mar 22 2010, 04:46 AM
||- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ Mar 21 2010, 11:46 P...   Mar 22 2010, 01:52 PM
||- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ Mar 21 2010, 11:46 P...   Mar 22 2010, 05:14 PM
||- - Emy   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Mar 22 2010, 11:14 ...   Mar 22 2010, 06:19 PM
||- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Emy @ Mar 22 2010, 02:19 PM) When ...   Mar 22 2010, 07:07 PM
|||- - Emy   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Mar 22 2010, 01:07 PM)...   Mar 22 2010, 07:44 PM
||||- - darthmord   QUOTE (Emy @ Mar 22 2010, 02:44 PM) Which...   Mar 22 2010, 11:33 PM
||||- - Mäx   QUOTE (Emy @ Mar 22 2010, 09:44 PM) Which...   Mar 23 2010, 08:48 AM
|||- - Sengir   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Mar 22 2010, 08:07 PM)...   Mar 23 2010, 12:10 AM
||||- - Fatum   QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 23 2010, 03:10 AM) Th...   Mar 23 2010, 12:37 AM
||||- - Sengir   QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 23 2010, 01:37 AM) My ...   Mar 23 2010, 12:20 PM
||||- - CeeJay   QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 23 2010, 01:20 PM) Th...   Mar 23 2010, 12:56 PM
||||- - Fatum   QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 23 2010, 03:20 PM) Su...   Mar 23 2010, 11:40 PM
||||- - Sengir   QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 24 2010, 12:40 AM) Fir...   Mar 24 2010, 10:22 AM
|||- - CeeJay   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Mar 22 2010, 08:07 PM)...   Mar 23 2010, 08:05 AM
|||- - darthmord   QUOTE (CeeJay @ Mar 23 2010, 03:05 AM) I ...   Mar 24 2010, 05:26 AM
||- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Emy @ Mar 22 2010, 01:19 PM) Only ...   Mar 23 2010, 04:30 AM
|- - CeeJay   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Mar 22 2010, 04:13 ...   Mar 22 2010, 08:07 AM
- - Patrick the Gnome   I honestly don't think it matters which gets a...   Mar 21 2010, 06:44 AM
- - SpellBinder   Not unless you're a mundane changeling and goi...   Mar 21 2010, 07:01 AM
|- - simplexio   QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Mar 21 2010, 09:01 A...   Mar 21 2010, 08:08 PM
- - SpellBinder   Biocompatability explicitly says you can take it o...   Mar 21 2010, 08:55 PM
- - SpellBinder   Yeah, I'm familiar with the mathematical madne...   Mar 22 2010, 03:31 AM
- - HentaiZonga   So, assuming addition our best effect is: Base (10...   Mar 24 2010, 07:06 AM
- - KCKitsune   @darthmord: Alpha ware is a 20% reduction in the ...   Mar 24 2010, 07:22 AM
|- - darthmord   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Mar 24 2010, 02:22 AM)...   Mar 24 2010, 10:01 PM
- - SpellBinder   Not according to the math in the example in Arsena...   Mar 24 2010, 08:12 AM
- - Brol_The_Mighty   You may be able to get that much cyberware....but ...   Mar 24 2010, 08:44 AM
|- - HentaiZonga   QUOTE (Brol_The_Mighty @ Mar 24 2010, 01...   Mar 24 2010, 09:09 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ Mar 24 2010, 02:09 P...   Mar 24 2010, 09:38 PM
|- - HentaiZonga   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 24 2010, 02...   Mar 24 2010, 09:44 PM
- - Tycho   The German Version of Augmentation has the Errata ...   Mar 24 2010, 09:44 PM


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