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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 ![]() |
So Loren Coleman contacted me with a request that I think is pretty reasonable. So I'm passing it on to the dumpshock community. The fact is, there are two people who are in the public eye to one degree or another who are named Loren Coleman. And neither one of them likes it when they are mistaken for the other. This got touched on in the original thread directly, but nearly two thousand posts later and some sub thread lockages, this statement is hard to find. So here we go:
The ongoing discussion about Loren Coleman, who is amongst the slightly less than ten owners of InMediaRes LLC (due to some shady ownership transfer documents, it's not clear that anyone knows exactly how many owners IMR has), is in all cases the person we are talking about on this board and during the ongoing scandal involving Catalyst Game Labs (an imprint of IMR) and their refusal to pay contracted royalties and wages to creditor companies and their employees. He has been writing licensed fiction since 1997, and his wikipedia entry lists him as Loren L. Coleman. This in no way refers to the Cryptozoologist named Loren Coleman. There has been some confusion about this, in no way helped by the fact that the Loren Coleman we are talking about in this ongoing scandal is listed in his bio at Fantastic Fiction as having contributed to a book entitled "Mothman and Other Curious Encounters," while the cryptozoologist Loren Coleman appears to be the person who actually wrote that book. The cryptozoologist was born in 1947 and studies zoology and anthropology, and does investigations into rare creatures and urban legends. He is, completely irrelevant to the ongoing travails of Shadowrun, Battletech, Cthulhutech, and Eclipse Phase. The cryptozoologist from Virginia at no point voluntarily withheld royalty payments to WildFire LLC, Posthuman Studios, or Topps Inc., nor did he ever have any such royalty payments to make. He did not voluntarily decline to write checks to his employees in contravention of their contracts, nor does he have freelance employees whom he is required to pay. He did not take unscheduled cash withdrawals from a company in which he is only part owner, nor did he sell the same portions of a company he was part owner in to more than one person and pocket the difference. Indeed, if anyone from here is sending nasty grams to Loren Coleman, the cryptozoologist from Virginia over this unfolding crisis, they need to stop doing that. Because he is a different person. The cryptozoologist lives in Portland, Maine. The man at the center of a web of corruption inside Catalyst Game Labs lives in Washington State. The cryptozoologist used to do anthropology at Brandeis, the guy who took investment money to start Holostreets and then never authorized payment to a programmer to make that happen was in the United States Navy. They are, and always have been, completely different people. -Frank |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 ![]() |
For what it's worth, the Cryptozoologist is simply Loren Coleman, while the one related to all these dealings is, correctly, Loren L. Coleman.
Also, you'd be amazed how often something as simple as an address is overlooked. |
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 ![]() |
Cleared up. Hopefully. I never meant to mix up Loren Coleman and Loren L Coleman with a third, imaginary Coleman.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 272 Joined: 5-April 10 Member No.: 18,416 ![]() |
And now we're getting somewhere.Snohomish County Planning and Development Services public records indicate this may be the aforementioned "custom built mansion."Very Private.Incidentally, do Loren & Bull play on the same football team?
Edit: Links removed. Dumpshock is for discussion of Shadowrun, not the posting of posting of personal info, such as home addresses and phone numbers. This post has been edited by fistandantilus4.0: Apr 7 2010, 01:34 AM |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 272 Joined: 5-April 10 Member No.: 18,416 ![]() |
Here's at least one thing the Lorenii have in common. Too creepy?
Edited: I've removed the posted links to personal information. Dumpshock is for discussion of Shadowrun, not personal voting information. Look it up on your own time. This post has been edited by fistandantilus4.0: Apr 7 2010, 01:32 AM |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 16-February 09 Member No.: 16,879 ![]() |
And now we're getting somewhere.Snohomish County Planning and Development Services public records indicate this may be the aforementioned "custom built mansion."Very Private.Incidentally, do Loren & Bull play on the same football team? I assume you meant to post this stuff to the other topic? Poor Loren Coleman is getting overshadowed by Loren Coleman yet again. This post has been edited by fistandantilus4.0: Apr 7 2010, 01:39 AM |
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 ![]() |
Considering the awesomeness of his work, Loren the Cryptozoologist Coleman doesn't deserve this.
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 ![]() |
Did anyone else notice Loren L. Coleman abbreviates to the same initials as Limited Liability Company?
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Street Doc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 ![]() |
augmentin: I don't mean to censor you or play moderator or whatever, but it might not be a wise idea to post links to someone's personal information on an open forum like this. Especially considering that the whole point of this thread is that there are other Loren Colemans who are getting nasty communications from some idiots on the internet.
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Dumpshock Widow aka Mrs Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next to Him Member No.: 6,929 ![]() |
I have to agree w/Method. Posting Mr. Coleman's address and telephone number (if they are indeed his) is crossing the line.
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 ![]() |
And now we're getting somewhere.Snohomish County Planning and Development Services public records indicate this may be the aforementioned "custom built mansion."Very Private.Incidentally, do Loren & Bull play on the same football team? Edit: Links removed. Dumpshock is for discussion of Shadowrun, not the posting of posting of personal info, such as home addresses and phone numbers. Here's at least one thing the Lorenii have in common. Too creepy? Edited: I've removed the posted links to personal information. Dumpshock is for discussion of Shadowrun, not personal voting information. Look it up on your own time. I've removed the links from these posts, as the links have nothing to do with Shadowrun, and are not only invasive, but could lead to harassment that we do not need to be the source of. The links are saved in a private section. Upon review, if it's decided the links should stay, they will be replaced. In the meantime, refrain from posting personal information. |
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 ![]() |
augmentin: I don't mean to censor you or play moderator or whatever, but it might not be a wise idea to post links to someone's personal information on an open forum like this. Especially considering that the whole point of this thread is that there are other Loren Colemans who are getting nasty communications from some idiots on the internet. Agreed. |
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Street Doc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 ![]() |
Glad I didn't overstep my bounds... I was being careful. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 ![]() |
No, appreciated though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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MechRigger Delux ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,151 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Hanger 18, WPAFB Member No.: 1,657 ![]() |
Innuendo? ^^ Well some people have been underware shopping with her... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Street Doc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 ![]() |
I really must have missed something there...
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 20-August 08 Member No.: 16,261 ![]() |
Those more interested in the cryptozologist Coleman, and other cool stuff in general should check out Coast to Coast AM (coasttocoastam.com). Coleman is a fairly regular guest and the show covers a wide variety of topics for a guy who doesn't sleep often.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 21-July 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 7,508 ![]() |
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
Well some people have been underware shopping with her... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) Ack, i hope they got her to model some stuff and not bull <.<;, |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 ![]() |
As long as they don't steal the underwear.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 272 Joined: 5-April 10 Member No.: 18,416 ![]() |
While I would argue that consolidating publicly available information into a public forum doesn't cross any lines, I can completely understand fistandfabulous's [sp?] line of thought that it was inappropriate to this forum. For that I am truly sorry.
I would also point out that since it was publicly available information and anyone with a internet connection and google could find the same information. My tips in this forum on where to look should probably be deleted in addition to the links. Side note: how does one go about contacting a moderator around here, anyway? I spent more time trying to find a moderator than it took me to find said inappropriate links. Thanks! |
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Dumpshock Widow aka Mrs Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next to Him Member No.: 6,929 ![]() |
Unless I'm mistaken, if you click on the mods/members name a drop down menu appears and one of the options is Send Message.
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 ![]() |
Maine. Kinda like this. Oh [elder] god. Yes. A very scary Solstice indeed. *Hums Carol of the Old Ones* ... o/` Up from the sea, from underground Down from the sky, they're all around They will return: mankind will learn New kinds of fear when they are here o/` ... |
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