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FrankTrollman
post Apr 6 2010, 10:06 AM
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So Loren Coleman contacted me with a request that I think is pretty reasonable. So I'm passing it on to the dumpshock community. The fact is, there are two people who are in the public eye to one degree or another who are named Loren Coleman. And neither one of them likes it when they are mistaken for the other. This got touched on in the original thread directly, but nearly two thousand posts later and some sub thread lockages, this statement is hard to find. So here we go:

The ongoing discussion about Loren Coleman, who is amongst the slightly less than ten owners of InMediaRes LLC (due to some shady ownership transfer documents, it's not clear that anyone knows exactly how many owners IMR has), is in all cases the person we are talking about on this board and during the ongoing scandal involving Catalyst Game Labs (an imprint of IMR) and their refusal to pay contracted royalties and wages to creditor companies and their employees. He has been writing licensed fiction since 1997, and his wikipedia entry lists him as Loren L. Coleman.

This in no way refers to the Cryptozoologist named Loren Coleman. There has been some confusion about this, in no way helped by the fact that the Loren Coleman we are talking about in this ongoing scandal is listed in his bio at Fantastic Fiction as having contributed to a book entitled "Mothman and Other Curious Encounters," while the cryptozoologist Loren Coleman appears to be the person who actually wrote that book. The cryptozoologist was born in 1947 and studies zoology and anthropology, and does investigations into rare creatures and urban legends. He is, completely irrelevant to the ongoing travails of Shadowrun, Battletech, Cthulhutech, and Eclipse Phase. The cryptozoologist from Virginia at no point voluntarily withheld royalty payments to WildFire LLC, Posthuman Studios, or Topps Inc., nor did he ever have any such royalty payments to make. He did not voluntarily decline to write checks to his employees in contravention of their contracts, nor does he have freelance employees whom he is required to pay. He did not take unscheduled cash withdrawals from a company in which he is only part owner, nor did he sell the same portions of a company he was part owner in to more than one person and pocket the difference.

Indeed, if anyone from here is sending nasty grams to Loren Coleman, the cryptozoologist from Virginia over this unfolding crisis, they need to stop doing that. Because he is a different person. The cryptozoologist lives in Portland, Maine. The man at the center of a web of corruption inside Catalyst Game Labs lives in Washington State. The cryptozoologist used to do anthropology at Brandeis, the guy who took investment money to start Holostreets and then never authorized payment to a programmer to make that happen was in the United States Navy. They are, and always have been, completely different people.

-Frank
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X-Kalibur
post Apr 6 2010, 05:55 PM
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For what it's worth, the Cryptozoologist is simply Loren Coleman, while the one related to all these dealings is, correctly, Loren L. Coleman.

Also, you'd be amazed how often something as simple as an address is overlooked.
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hermit
post Apr 6 2010, 06:00 PM
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Cleared up. Hopefully. I never meant to mix up Loren Coleman and Loren L Coleman with a third, imaginary Coleman.
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post Apr 6 2010, 06:13 PM
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And now we're getting somewhere.Snohomish County Planning and Development Services public records indicate this may be the aforementioned "custom built mansion."Very Private.Incidentally, do Loren & Bull play on the same football team?

Edit: Links removed. Dumpshock is for discussion of Shadowrun, not the posting of posting of personal info, such as home addresses and phone numbers.

This post has been edited by fistandantilus4.0: Apr 7 2010, 01:34 AM
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post Apr 6 2010, 06:24 PM
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Here's at least one thing the Lorenii have in common. Too creepy?

Edited: I've removed the posted links to personal information. Dumpshock is for discussion of Shadowrun, not personal voting information. Look it up on your own time.

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post Apr 6 2010, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (augmentin @ Apr 6 2010, 02:13 PM) *
And now we're getting somewhere.Snohomish County Planning and Development Services public records indicate this may be the aforementioned "custom built mansion."Very Private.Incidentally, do Loren & Bull play on the same football team?


I assume you meant to post this stuff to the other topic? Poor Loren Coleman is getting overshadowed by Loren Coleman yet again.

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post Apr 6 2010, 08:23 PM
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Considering the awesomeness of his work, Loren the Cryptozoologist Coleman doesn't deserve this.
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post Apr 6 2010, 11:19 PM
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Did anyone else notice Loren L. Coleman abbreviates to the same initials as Limited Liability Company?
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post Apr 7 2010, 01:15 AM
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augmentin: I don't mean to censor you or play moderator or whatever, but it might not be a wise idea to post links to someone's personal information on an open forum like this. Especially considering that the whole point of this thread is that there are other Loren Colemans who are getting nasty communications from some idiots on the internet.
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post Apr 7 2010, 01:25 AM
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I have to agree w/Method. Posting Mr. Coleman's address and telephone number (if they are indeed his) is crossing the line.
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post Apr 7 2010, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE (augmentin @ Apr 6 2010, 01:13 PM) *
And now we're getting somewhere.Snohomish County Planning and Development Services public records indicate this may be the aforementioned "custom built mansion."Very Private.Incidentally, do Loren & Bull play on the same football team?

Edit: Links removed. Dumpshock is for discussion of Shadowrun, not the posting of posting of personal info, such as home addresses and phone numbers.



QUOTE (augmentin @ Apr 6 2010, 01:24 PM) *
Here's at least one thing the Lorenii have in common. Too creepy?

Edited: I've removed the posted links to personal information. Dumpshock is for discussion of Shadowrun, not personal voting information. Look it up on your own time.


I've removed the links from these posts, as the links have nothing to do with Shadowrun, and are not only invasive, but could lead to harassment that we do not need to be the source of.

The links are saved in a private section. Upon review, if it's decided the links should stay, they will be replaced. In the meantime, refrain from posting personal information.
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post Apr 7 2010, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE (Method @ Apr 6 2010, 08:15 PM) *
augmentin: I don't mean to censor you or play moderator or whatever, but it might not be a wise idea to post links to someone's personal information on an open forum like this. Especially considering that the whole point of this thread is that there are other Loren Colemans who are getting nasty communications from some idiots on the internet.

Agreed.
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post Apr 7 2010, 01:50 AM
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Glad I didn't overstep my bounds... I was being careful. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 7 2010, 01:55 AM
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No, appreciated though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 7 2010, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 6 2010, 11:36 AM) *
Innuendo? ^^

Well some people have been underware shopping with her... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Apr 7 2010, 02:33 AM
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I really must have missed something there...
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post Apr 7 2010, 03:58 AM
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Those more interested in the cryptozologist Coleman, and other cool stuff in general should check out Coast to Coast AM (coasttocoastam.com). Coleman is a fairly regular guest and the show covers a wide variety of topics for a guy who doesn't sleep often.
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post Apr 7 2010, 04:03 AM
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QUOTE (Method @ Apr 6 2010, 09:33 PM) *
I really must have missed something there...


Dumpshock meet-and-greet. Didn't everyone go to Victoria's Secret for the meet and greet at GenCon 2009?
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post Apr 7 2010, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE (Caine Hazen @ Apr 7 2010, 04:22 AM) *
Well some people have been underware shopping with her... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Ack, i hope they got her to model some stuff and not bull <.<;,
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post Apr 7 2010, 10:03 AM
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As long as they don't steal the underwear.
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post Apr 7 2010, 06:52 PM
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While I would argue that consolidating publicly available information into a public forum doesn't cross any lines, I can completely understand fistandfabulous's [sp?] line of thought that it was inappropriate to this forum. For that I am truly sorry.

I would also point out that since it was publicly available information and anyone with a internet connection and google could find the same information. My tips in this forum on where to look should probably be deleted in addition to the links.

Side note: how does one go about contacting a moderator around here, anyway? I spent more time trying to find a moderator than it took me to find said inappropriate links. Thanks!
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post Apr 7 2010, 06:54 PM
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Unless I'm mistaken, if you click on the mods/members name a drop down menu appears and one of the options is Send Message.
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post Apr 7 2010, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 6 2010, 06:47 AM) *
Maine. Kinda like this.


Oh [elder] god. Yes.

A very scary Solstice indeed.

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o/` Up from the sea, from underground
Down from the sky, they're all around
They will return: mankind will learn
New kinds of fear when they are here o/`
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