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naga-nuyen
post Oct 5 2010, 08:40 AM
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Okay, I like to make NPC/ possible PC's. I want to create all sorts so I can learn both what can be made and what should not be allowed if/when I GM. Following these lines I have always thought Type O system is not worth the bang for the BP. But after sitting down and taking the longer view on a potential NPC/PC i found that this idea had merit. For now he is stacked with level 2 Muscle toner and augmentation, EA, Synthcardium level 3, and I threw in a Genetic optimization (for that magic future 11 in agility). As an adept he is using Geas optional rules (if allowed, if not then drop the walk) to get Improved Reflexes at level 3 (3pp or 4pp), enhanced Attribute [reaction] (.75pp), sustenance (.25) and traceless walk (1pp).

Now funny thing is that after looking at all that fancy basic Bioware, this NPC/PC could take every piece in 4Ea Book (Except cat's eyes, Suprathyroid, and Skin pocket) for a total of 5.65 Essence loss. All he needs to do is initiate 5 times and raise his magic attribute 5 times and he retains all his Adept powers.....talk about a true Augmentation Addict (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Now of course he would need a banging back story, and round out his skills (mostly starting as a sniper with high athletic and stealth skills) but kind of funny what the Type O system can do for an Adept over the long term!

With Optimization it comes out to 5.95 cost, which is scary to consider him an Adpet.
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- naga-nuyen   Type O system Adept   Oct 5 2010, 08:40 AM
- - Jaid   did you account for the fact that type O doesn...   Oct 5 2010, 04:58 PM
|- - Tyro   QUOTE (Jaid @ Oct 5 2010, 09:58 AM) did y...   Oct 6 2010, 01:00 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Tyro @ Oct 5 2010, 05:00 PM) A com...   Oct 6 2010, 05:46 AM
||- - Tyro   QUOTE (Glyph @ Oct 5 2010, 10:46 PM) C...   Oct 6 2010, 06:06 AM
||- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Tyro @ Oct 6 2010, 01:06 AM) Consi...   Oct 6 2010, 07:18 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Tyro @ Oct 6 2010, 03:00 AM) A com...   Oct 6 2010, 06:33 AM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Tyro @ Oct 6 2010, 02:00 AM) A com...   Oct 7 2010, 03:59 PM
- - Doc Chase   Aw, come on. With that kind of Essence score, tha...   Oct 5 2010, 04:58 PM
- - naga-nuyen   Yeah only used the "Basic" chart from 4E...   Oct 5 2010, 05:20 PM
- - Godwyn   Its viable, but as far as effectiveness look at wh...   Oct 5 2010, 11:53 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's their own fault for using the word 'b...   Oct 6 2010, 01:08 AM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 5 2010, 09:08 PM)...   Oct 6 2010, 01:41 AM
- - naga-nuyen   The more and more I add into this nut ball I reall...   Oct 6 2010, 01:28 AM
|- - Makki   QUOTE (naga-nuyen @ Oct 6 2010, 03:2...   Oct 6 2010, 08:14 AM
- - naga-nuyen   Darn double post   Oct 6 2010, 01:28 AM
- - jakephillips   Strange but might be good for an npc   Oct 6 2010, 01:48 AM
- - Saint Sithney   Augmentation does say "Only basic bioware ca...   Oct 6 2010, 06:16 AM
- - Marcus   Looks fine to me. If your opting to go blades thou...   Oct 6 2010, 07:02 AM
- - naga-nuyen   Never even crossed my mind lol, but um yeah I ran ...   Oct 6 2010, 07:05 AM
- - naga-nuyen   That does not seem to be the case which is stated ...   Oct 6 2010, 08:49 AM
- - Ascalaphus   The bioware grades/classes debate was carried out ...   Oct 6 2010, 09:53 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Oct 6 2010, 11:53 AM)...   Oct 6 2010, 11:38 AM
- - Angelone   Don't you need atleast 1 point of essence to h...   Oct 6 2010, 05:04 PM
|- - Marcus   QUOTE (Angelone @ Oct 6 2010, 01:04 PM) D...   Oct 6 2010, 05:24 PM
- - naga-nuyen   By looking through the rules, if I initiate and ra...   Oct 6 2010, 08:10 PM
|- - darthmord   QUOTE (naga-nuyen @ Oct 6 2010, 03:1...   Oct 7 2010, 05:59 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The classic problem with the adept/augmentation da...   Oct 6 2010, 08:14 PM
- - Angelone   That's my understanding too which is why I ask...   Oct 6 2010, 08:19 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Angelone @ Oct 6 2010, 04:19 PM) T...   Oct 7 2010, 03:35 PM
- - sabs   But doing a physical adept with Muscle Toner, Musc...   Oct 6 2010, 08:30 PM
- - naga-nuyen   Yeah it is sick how much benefit you get for that ...   Oct 6 2010, 09:55 PM
|- - ProfGast   QUOTE (naga-nuyen @ Oct 6 2010, 11:5...   Oct 6 2010, 10:01 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (ProfGast @ Oct 6 2010, 11:01 PM) T...   Oct 6 2010, 10:18 PM
- - Yerameyahu   There are those who will argue that you can do the...   Oct 6 2010, 11:56 PM
- - naga-nuyen   I think your right, I mean I am sure the Army issu...   Oct 7 2010, 12:40 AM
- - Saint Sithney   Bringing it back to the "Cultural Appropriati...   Oct 7 2010, 08:45 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Oct 7 2010, 10:45 ...   Oct 7 2010, 08:57 AM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Mäx @ Oct 7 2010, 01:57 AM) And th...   Oct 7 2010, 12:55 PM
|- - Doc Chase   Off-rack simply means it's as close to 'on...   Oct 7 2010, 01:21 PM
- - Laodicea   The trouble with a type-o adept build like this is...   Oct 7 2010, 12:38 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I'm not arguing for either side with this, but...   Oct 7 2010, 01:17 PM
- - sabs   If it's Tailor-made for the intended recipient...   Oct 7 2010, 01:20 PM
- - sabs   off-rack and Ready To Wear are only different in t...   Oct 7 2010, 01:24 PM
- - Laodicea   If Type-O doesn't get an essence cost reductio...   Oct 7 2010, 01:38 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Laodicea @ Oct 7 2010, 02:38 PM) I...   Oct 7 2010, 01:51 PM
|- - CeeJay   QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 7 2010, 03:51 PM) How m...   Oct 7 2010, 02:06 PM
|- - Laodicea   QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 7 2010, 07:51 AM) Your ...   Oct 7 2010, 02:43 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Laodicea @ Oct 7 2010, 03:43 PM) I...   Oct 7 2010, 02:55 PM
|- - Laodicea   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Oct 7 2010, 08:55 AM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 03:02 PM
- - sabs   it's easier to jot down the basic bioware you ...   Oct 7 2010, 02:16 PM
- - Badmoodguy88   type o is something you can only get at the start ...   Oct 7 2010, 03:23 PM
- - sabs   So would Type-O also cover genetheraphy then?   Oct 7 2010, 04:01 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 7 2010, 05:01 PM) So wo...   Oct 7 2010, 04:06 PM
- - naga-nuyen   Draco18, for whatever reasons your description doe...   Oct 7 2010, 04:58 PM
- - Draco18s   Exactly. If you have Essence of 1 and no initiati...   Oct 7 2010, 05:27 PM
- - Marcus   Which is really a nice way of saying reduces what ...   Oct 7 2010, 05:50 PM
- - sabs   Does that mean that your max Initiate Rank is 6?   Oct 7 2010, 06:00 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 7 2010, 02:00 PM) Does ...   Oct 7 2010, 06:08 PM
- - Yerameyahu   What a mess. I can't even imagine going throug...   Oct 7 2010, 06:07 PM
- - Doc Chase   Uh, if someone's Essence drops below 1, their ...   Oct 7 2010, 06:23 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Oct 7 2010, 02:23 PM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 07:28 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Oct 7 2010, 08:28 PM) T...   Oct 7 2010, 07:29 PM
|- - Marcus   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Oct 7 2010, 02:29 PM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 07:38 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Oct 7 2010, 03:29 PM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 07:46 PM
||- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Oct 7 2010, 08:46 PM) I...   Oct 7 2010, 07:47 PM
|- - darthmord   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Oct 7 2010, 02:29 PM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 08:38 PM
- - naga-nuyen   Once again I get caught with selective reading/lis...   Oct 7 2010, 06:26 PM
- - Draco18s   Everything was easier back then.   Oct 7 2010, 08:09 PM
- - Badmoodguy88   QUOTE The key to infinite Initiation is: - Max Ini...   Oct 7 2010, 09:57 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Oct 7 2010, 05:57 P...   Oct 7 2010, 10:24 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Oct 7 2010, 05:57 P...   Oct 7 2010, 10:54 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Oct 7 2010, 01:57 P...   Oct 8 2010, 02:27 AM
- - Yerameyahu   :/ You can have infinite initiations? That's n...   Oct 7 2010, 10:04 PM
- - naga-nuyen   For the power point for initiation you give up the...   Oct 7 2010, 10:26 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Well, very *desired* anyway. I dunno how popular ...   Oct 8 2010, 12:46 AM
- - X-Kalibur   Type O simply should not be compatible with cultur...   Oct 8 2010, 04:10 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Oct 8 2010, 04:10...   Oct 8 2010, 04:36 PM
- - Laodicea   If cultured bioware is grown using the recipients ...   Oct 8 2010, 04:46 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Laodicea @ Oct 8 2010, 04:46 PM) I...   Oct 8 2010, 04:51 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 8 2010, 09:51 AM) bette...   Oct 8 2010, 04:55 PM
- - sabs   Because the basic stuff is grown from your DNA but...   Oct 8 2010, 05:01 PM
|- - Laodicea   QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 8 2010, 11:01 AM) Becau...   Oct 8 2010, 05:11 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Laodicea @ Oct 8 2010, 05:11 PM) T...   Oct 8 2010, 06:01 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 8 2010, 07:01 PM) Maybe...   Oct 8 2010, 06:10 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Dumori @ Oct 8 2010, 09:10 PM) But...   Oct 8 2010, 07:13 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Mäx @ Oct 8 2010, 08:13 PM) There ...   Oct 8 2010, 07:31 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Dumori @ Oct 8 2010, 07:31 PM) Yes...   Oct 8 2010, 07:38 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 8 2010, 10:38 PM) You k...   Oct 8 2010, 08:17 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (sabs @ Oct 8 2010, 03:38 PM) You k...   Oct 9 2010, 05:24 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Oct 9 2010, 08:24 A...   Oct 9 2010, 06:54 AM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Mäx @ Oct 9 2010, 01:54 AM) Any pr...   Oct 9 2010, 07:50 AM
- - Yerameyahu   They never should have made the cyberware grades w...   Oct 8 2010, 06:01 PM
- - Yerameyahu   'Standard' is the actual grade, though, ri...   Oct 8 2010, 06:26 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 8 2010, 07:26 PM)...   Oct 8 2010, 06:31 PM
- - Karoline   I've personally always ran with type O working...   Oct 9 2010, 04:13 AM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (Karoline @ Oct 9 2010, 12:13 AM) S...   Oct 9 2010, 06:32 AM
- - Marcus   I think it should work with bioware thats not Alph...   Oct 9 2010, 05:00 AM
- - naga-nuyen   Here are some posts from some Devs about the issue...   Oct 9 2010, 07:19 AM
- - Mäx   QUOTE (naga-nuyen @ Oct 9 2010, 10:1...   Oct 9 2010, 07:30 AM
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