 Free BP for Knowledge/Language Skills, Based on natural or effective Log+Int? |
 Sep 21 2005, 03:58 PM
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Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263  |
If my character at chargen has a Cerebral Booster is that augmented Logic used to calculate the base number of BP available for Knowledge and Language Skills? I don't see anything really saying explicitly one way or another? It isn't really that big of deal, was just wondering about people's thoughts on this.
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Sep 21 2005, 04:00 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
This is what i get for not actually having the book, edited for actualy factual material thanks to Hahnsoo
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Sep 21 2005, 04:00 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
It specifically states in the character creation rules that augmented ratings are NOT used in other aspects of character creation. SR4 p84, 2nd column.
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Sep 21 2005, 04:03 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
so getting enough cyber to drop you to a 4 essence doesn't make the 4th magic point jump to 25 BP?
Does that mean that getting the lucky quality doesn't reduce the price of the 5th edge point? |
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Sep 21 2005, 04:03 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Unmodified - you assign Resources after Skills.
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Sep 21 2005, 04:08 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Because Essence Loss reduces both your Magic AND your Magic maximum, the "final" point up to your "racial max" is still 25 points. Even if you took the paradigm that it doesn't affect your purchasing of Magic, you'd still have a Racial Max of 6 and still have to buy up points from 1 point of Magic. Afterwards, you apply the Essence losses to magic.
Not cyberware/bioware, therefore doesn't count.
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Sep 21 2005, 04:12 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
However it does come after in the book. Order in the books is rather dubious since the chargen process itself isn't entirely linear from one area to the next. |
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Sep 21 2005, 04:14 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
To answer the original question, the Logic increase from Cerebral Booster does NOT give you more Knowledge Skill points at character creation.
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Sep 21 2005, 04:19 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Based on....solely the order in the book? |
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Sep 21 2005, 04:23 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
I gave you a page reference above. It lists the boost to Logic specifically:
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Sep 21 2005, 04:27 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
:oops: Missed that post. Thanks, that's what i was looking for.
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Sep 21 2005, 04:27 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
BTW - you don't get free BP.
You get free Skill Points, and can by additional ones with BP. ;) |
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Sep 21 2005, 11:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 7-February 05 Member No.: 7,063 |
I wonder how many people have made that mistake. In my group about half of the players thought that it gave them BPs to buy knowledges with.
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Sep 21 2005, 11:46 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Ya, a important distinction if you ever start buying more than alloted by 3*(Logic+Intuition). I knew the difference, just wasn't writing it out that way. One thing i also noticed is that the only way to get a Specialization of a Knowledge Skill or Language Skill at chargen is to spend 1BP. There is no option to do it with the "free" points. |
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