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Pelaka
post Sep 19 2005, 10:28 PM
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It looks like there are no more sorcery/conjuring adapts in SR4? Did I somehow missread this? Any idea why they chose to go this way?

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post Sep 19 2005, 10:43 PM
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mystic adept. page 186
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post Sep 19 2005, 10:43 PM
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They are sort of in there, they are now just regular Magicians that do not put BP or karma into either the Sorcery or Conjuring skill groups. As such they still have access to full Perception/Projection.

EDIT: Ya, Mystic Adept is sort of like that too. Only they are really Magician's Way Adepts.
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post Sep 19 2005, 10:49 PM
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<edit> sorry. Thought you were speaking about mystic adepts there :)

The reason they´re not in there is that you can make any kind of magican you want using the rules as they stand. The days of all or nothing is gone.
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post Sep 20 2005, 12:44 AM
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Well, you could do the same earlier, really. Pick 'full mage' and not put anything in spells or conjuring...

I'm guessing (hoping?) they'll reappear in the magic sourcebook...

Otherwise, just have them cost 10 or 5 BPs, and be limited to either sorcery group or conjuring group (or, for fun, make other combinations of magic skills - Anti-mage: Banishing/Counterspelling/Binding; Ritual Mage: Ritual Sorcery/Summoning/Binding; Solo mage: Spellcasting/Counterspelling/Banishing.)

Or combine with a Mentor spirit and only do magic they have a bonus for (more limited than previously, though).
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post Sep 20 2005, 02:01 AM
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For the "full tamale", I suppose you can get the Incompetant quality for the Conjuring skills. Same with a Conjuring adept (Incompetant quality for Sorcery skills).
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post Sep 20 2005, 09:33 AM
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And be a mystic adept with all power points in the Magic attribute and only astral perception as a power. Combine that with incompetence for one of the magic skills and there´s really no difference from an aspected magican (eccept you have the option of getting adept powers).
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post Sep 20 2005, 09:38 AM
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Incompetence (Astral Projection) may be a possibility when going the way of a Mage, but this would be a 'houserule'.
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post Sep 20 2005, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig)
Incompetence (Astral Projection) may be a possibility when going the way of a Mage, but this would be a 'houserule'.

Indeed it would be, since Astral Projection is not listed as a Skill.
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