 Bioware and Ghouls, can you add? |
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 Sep 26 2005, 08:36 PM
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,632 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Portland Oregon, USA Member No.: 1,304  |
If a character becomes a ghoul, his bioware is absorbed. What about new bioware? Can you get it?
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Sep 26 2005, 11:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 232 Joined: 19-October 04 Member No.: 6,773 |
Sure, if the doctor implanting them wants to risk exposure to your blood and becoming a ghoul himself.
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Sep 26 2005, 11:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
So they wear a Hazmat suit.
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Sep 26 2005, 11:57 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
A Hazmat suit is a little extreme. There are incurable blood-borne illnesses today, you know. Doctors don't wear havmat suits when dealing with HIV or hepatitis patients. It really is a non-issue. The chances of being infected are very low when proper medical hygine is observed. It is probably more dangerous walking across the street. Kreiger strain can be treated in the early stages, as well. Regular screening should make accidental ghoulification impossible.
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Sep 27 2005, 12:22 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
I was kiding.
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Sep 27 2005, 06:30 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
What about a Ghoul doctor? Maybe hard to find.... and probably guarded by Ghoul Drop Bears. :D |
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Sep 27 2005, 07:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 16-January 05 Member No.: 6,984 |
I'd be worried about going to a ghoul doctor, they might just decide to snack you know.
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Sep 27 2005, 10:37 AM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
Whats the matter? You´ve got a shiney new cyberarm after all...
...just call it fringe benefits for the doctor. |
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Sep 27 2005, 12:07 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Just bring a fresh, ripe, baby with you. Given the choice between a though, chewy, and unpallatable cyborg or a soft, tender, and delicious infant, the ghoul doctor will almost certainly eat the baby.
I wonder what ghouls, ghoul-friendly charities, and pro-ghoul lobbying groups think of Swift's A Modest Proposal. It does seem like a brilliant sollution to both help ghouls and the SINless poor. It also has the advantage of reducing the SINless population and thus lessening crime. |
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Sep 27 2005, 02:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 26-July 03 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 5,029 |
Wow, that was some impressive derailment. From 'relevant' to 'non' in two posts--that has to be some kind of record.
Does anyone have an answer to Bearclaw's question? My gut tells me that it depends on why a person's bioware is lost when they initially undergo the transformation into a ghoul. |
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Sep 27 2005, 02:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 18-February 03 Member No.: 4,110 |
Please hug me. I can't give you krieger. </cartoon bubble> Ever see that poster of the crayon drawn little boy with HIV? :( |
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Sep 27 2005, 06:33 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Any cyberware that interfaces directly with a Ghoul's system is automaticly broken by the transformation, yet purely structural cyber remains intact. Broken cyber can be repaired and new cyber can be installed. This suggests that bioware loss, as well as cyberware loss, is a direct result of the transformation process and not caused by being a ghoul. Ghouls have the sensitive system flaw. It's exact wording doesn't say anything about bioware, only that it doubles essence costs for cyberware. Reasonably, one could conclude that doubling bioindex costs would be correct. Also, I would not allow a ghoul to take any non-cultured bioware. A ghoul's ware would have to be custom made from its own infected cells and the 'ware itself would have to be infected during the growth process. The books say nothing of this, so it would just be a house rule but it is one that makes sense. |
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Sep 27 2005, 10:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 26-July 03 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 5,029 |
Do you have a book & page reference for this? |
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Sep 27 2005, 10:27 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
SRC page 34. It is on the Ghoul Characteristics Table.
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Sep 28 2005, 04:34 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 26-July 03 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 5,029 |
Cheers! :) |
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Sep 28 2005, 10:09 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
On a related question, can I biomod a shifter?
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Sep 28 2005, 02:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 24-October 04 Member No.: 6,785 |
You can't add any modification to a critter that Regenerates under normal circumstances; regeneration makes surgery pretty much impossible.
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Sep 29 2005, 04:11 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Well yeah ... but what about things like genetic modifcation, or operating using silver/wooden instruments?
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Sep 29 2005, 05:46 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Even operating using silver/wood/weapon foci won't help. You can implant the 'ware but the regeneration will just cause the character's body to expell it in a horribly painful manner and restore the orginal physiology. I don't know about genetherapy. Theoretically, regeneration should cover genetic damage, as well. If not, all shapeshifters and vampires would die quick deaths from cancer. |
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