 Another missed release date. No book Oct 3rd. |
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 Sep 28 2005, 06:00 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 8-September 05 Member No.: 7,711  |
I just got this from my distributor:
"Got this just minutes ago.. “Due to some unforseen circumstances Studio 2 Publishing is not shipping Shadowrun 4th Edition this week. The release date of October 3rd has been delayed.” NO new release date was given. Will update when information is available." I wish I could say that I am surprised. |
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Sep 28 2005, 06:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 445 Joined: 18-August 05 Member No.: 7,567 |
Oh my that makes me giggle.
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Sep 28 2005, 06:12 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
:eek:
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Sep 28 2005, 06:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 238 Joined: 18-August 05 Member No.: 7,569 |
I wonder if that's just if you ordered through Studio 2, or all distributors.
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Sep 28 2005, 06:14 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 8-September 05 Member No.: 7,711 |
To my knowledge, the chain of distribution goes from FanPro to the printer to Studio 2 to all distributors.
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Sep 28 2005, 06:18 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
This is nothing new. The delay may only mean they're trying for a closer-to-Christmas distribution.
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Sep 28 2005, 06:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 238 Joined: 18-August 05 Member No.: 7,569 |
You know, I'm willing to put up with pre-errata books, so that I can have a LE copy, and in a timely manner. But at this rate, I'd be better off waiting for the second printing.
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Sep 28 2005, 06:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Note Calonna Member No.: 241 |
Truly pathetic. What a way to run a business.
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Sep 28 2005, 06:41 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Yeah, we're not too impressed with the bindery that lied to us, telling us weeks ago that all the books were finished, when they actually weren't. |
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Sep 28 2005, 06:44 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
*edit*
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Sep 28 2005, 06:49 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
Ouch.
That is the suck, as they say. |
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Sep 28 2005, 06:58 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 22-September 04 From: 9th Circle of Hell Member No.: 6,692 |
I just checked Studio 2's store and they list the BBB as being in "stock" Oct. 10
Linky It remains to be seen whether that's still true or not. |
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Sep 28 2005, 06:59 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
Adam, There are probably NDA style and other legally binding issues that you can't answer this, but i'm bored..., and wondering if fanpro has any recourse againist the binder in that situation, legally?
I would imagine that somewhere along the line, there is a contract with them, however, the proof of burden is on fanpro, and proving that sales are lost because they failed to complete their part of the job in an adequate and timely manner is undoubtly difficult, but is something i thought of... |
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Sep 28 2005, 07:03 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
I would hope they are getting a discount on the run for the missed date. If not, they should really consider such a clause for the next run.
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Sep 28 2005, 07:04 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 18-September 05 Member No.: 7,756 |
I suppose the next question is will the errata-updated PDF be released on October 3rd as planned or delayed until the next release date?
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Sep 28 2005, 07:04 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
woudl hope that they are getting a discount, and looking at another binder all together for the next run (which, i think i remember adam saying that was being done)
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Sep 28 2005, 07:06 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 390 |
having dragged myself out of bed at 7AM in Indy retroactively becomes a better idea by the week.
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Sep 28 2005, 07:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 445 Joined: 18-August 05 Member No.: 7,567 |
Which you told us the other day when the release date was announced. Now we find out that that was completely wrong and off by a entire week. Will we once again get another bump October 5th telling us not till the 17th? |
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Sep 28 2005, 07:14 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
I suspect that the order of things went something like this:
1)Binder tells Fanpro "we'll have the books done by xx/yy/2005" 2)Fanpro says ok, let us know when they're done and we'll announce a release date 3)Binder says "OK, books are done" <crosses fingers behind his back> 4)Fanpro says "ok, on Oct. 3rd we're releasing" 5)Binder says just not "HAHA tricks on you, they're not really done, hahahaha!" 6)Fanpro again has to chance the date, telling the binder "ok, this time, they're DONE when you tell us, or there's gonna be trouble with my cousin "Little Nicky" an his base ball bat." |
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Sep 28 2005, 07:15 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
That was never the plan. The PDF has already been updated once, and the second update is scheduled to coincide with the second print run of the core book, not the first.. |
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Sep 28 2005, 07:19 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
but, an appliciple question, is will the release of the second run, coincide with the release of the first run, its actualyl possible, if all of the first run gets caught up in preorders... :rotfl: |
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Sep 28 2005, 07:29 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
Drop bear ninjas, ATTACK!
I don't know who they should attack, but someone deserves something for this....Grrrr. |
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Sep 28 2005, 07:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 870 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Idaho Member No.: 5,960 |
Yep just keep passing the buck! ;) It doesn't really matter though. It's not like the customers are going to be pissed off at your bindery. It's Fanpro that's going to suffer. What a joke. |
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Sep 28 2005, 07:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 453 Joined: 15-August 02 From: Kansas City, MO Member No.: 3,116 |
It's not uncommon for binders to botch a job after it's been actually bound. Paperback books are first bound and then trimmed. If the trimming gets botched (wrong size or other issue) then each one trimmed wrong is utterly useless.
This happened recentlly to a small publisher friend of mine (who scans this board on occasion, btw): The books were all bound. His people talked to the bindery and they were told binding was done. It was TECHNICALLY done, meaning that they were all bound per se, but they had not yet been trimmed. Then when they trimmed them a large percentage were trimmed to the wrong size, ruining them. Needless to say, the binder eventually took care of reprinting them (they were also the printer) but the problem caused a missed ship date. My friend moved on to another vendor. |
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Sep 28 2005, 07:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 870 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Idaho Member No.: 5,960 |
It's all semantics. It doesn't change the result and no one is going to care who's fault it is in the publishing food chain. The fact is Fanpro dropped the ball the rest is just conjecture. |
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