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post Oct 5 2005, 08:59 AM
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In case you missed the post over on shadowrunrpg.com:
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October 5th, 2005
Where’s that Book?
Obviously, Shadowrun Fourth Edition has not shipped yet … we expect it will ship “really freakin’ soon” but don’t have an exact date yet.

We apologize for the continual delays, and we’re waving axes at the appropriate people.

Posted in SR4 by AdamJury


I know I'm less than impressed.
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post Oct 5 2005, 09:12 AM
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What professionalism.
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post Oct 5 2005, 09:14 AM
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They... fumbled away their main product. That´s gotta hurt.
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post Oct 5 2005, 11:33 AM
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Before we get into another round of FanPro-bashing, I would call peoples' attention to the fact that some of us have been informed that their books have been shipped - less than a day behind FanPro's October 3rd adjusted shipping date. In my case it happened Tuesday night at 04:32 PM according to UPS.
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post Oct 5 2005, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE (Synner)
Before we get into another round of FanPro-bashing, I would call peoples' attention to the fact that some of us have been informed that their books have been shipped - less than a day behind FanPro's October 3rd adjusted shipping date. In my case it happened Tuesday night at 04:32 PM according to UPS.

Atleast theres some good news out of all of this
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post Oct 5 2005, 02:00 PM
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Professionalism, a dying art form.
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post Oct 5 2005, 04:06 PM
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Axes were a mistake, they should be waving mono-whips....
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post Oct 5 2005, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE (Squinky)
Axes were a mistake, they should be waving mono-whips....

You really don't want to do that, you'll just end up hurting yourself.
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post Oct 5 2005, 04:25 PM
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Professionalism? Sure, then have a dress code that requires they wear suits and ties to the office.

Gaming companies are the last business I expect to be professional. Hell, it's just a lucky fan who gets paid to think crap up.
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post Oct 5 2005, 05:31 PM
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It's not really Fan Pro's fault that the binder flat out lied to them when they said the books were ready....
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post Oct 5 2005, 05:42 PM
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For the love of christ, these poor guys can't post anything without getting flamed by someone. No wonder they're reluctant to give out information, it always gets twisted into something negative.

They gave us the Shadowrun 4 FAQ, which set off months and months of vitriol, pure speculation, and doomsaying on this forum.

They relay information that is the best available and every monkey in the peanut gallery picks it apart.

The only safe way to play the Information Posting Game is not to play, it seems.

I, for one, just stopped reading the forum this summer it got so distasteful. A number of my friends did the same. Just too negative. And it just continues it seems.
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post Oct 5 2005, 05:43 PM
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Cool. Then leave again.
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post Oct 5 2005, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (calypso)
QUOTE (Squinky @ Oct 5 2005, 11:06 AM)
Axes were a mistake, they should be waving mono-whips....

You really don't want to do that, you'll just end up hurting yourself.

Yes instead wave monofilament chainsaws about!
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post Oct 5 2005, 05:49 PM
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Cool. Then leave again.

I'd be happier if we could all just show a little more "professionalism" and respect for one another since we seem to be demanding it from others.
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post Oct 5 2005, 06:13 PM
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I'm just sayin', if a little real-world feelings, griping, negativity, disagreement, bitching, or whatever you want to call it really upsets you and your buddies so much you quit an internet forum for months (and then mention it, first chance you get)...then, well, maybe the internet is just a little too cynical and grown-up for your delicate sensibilities. So, y'know, leave again if you want.

And just as soon as I start getting paid for, and setting canon with, my thoughts and opinions where SR is concerned, I'll start showing some professionalism. 'Till then, I'm a customer, and I can bitch all I want.
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post Oct 5 2005, 06:21 PM
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Perhaps if a bit of obvious humour injected into someone's statements rubs your "professionalism" sensibilities the wrong way you should stop playing RPG games?
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post Oct 5 2005, 06:25 PM
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We have to be the change we want to see in others.

Not that it matters, but I've been back since the release of the PDF, reading and posting as usual.

Now I'm the source of derision. Perhaps it's the nature of the medium itself. Flaming seems to be endemic in forums and always has.

If you wish to have a private conversation I'm available through email. This is not the place.
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post Oct 5 2005, 06:25 PM
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I don't care about them trying very very hard to be zany and cool (like Starbucks, or pop music, or Chipotle), I care about them once again saying "Duhhr, we dunno when the books are gonna ship." If your head is so far up their ass, Blakkie, that you can't realize that the inability to produce a product on time shows a lack of professionalism, then I'm sorry to say that even shock therapy can't help you (though it would be fun to try).
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post Oct 5 2005, 06:31 PM
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Yes, because it is clearly unprofessional to be honest.
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post Oct 5 2005, 06:32 PM
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http://www.tombraider4u.com/puppy-pictures.../cute-puppy.jpg

Please click that link.
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post Oct 5 2005, 06:37 PM
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I like this one better, but only because i've seen it at a resolution that is legible. :)

http://www.tombraider4u.com/puppy-pictures...y-picture04.jpg
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post Oct 5 2005, 06:41 PM
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honesty has nothing to do with it, though it's certainly an admirable quality.
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post Oct 5 2005, 06:42 PM
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I just remembered that I'm tired of remembering Blakkie exists, much less rolling around in the steaming fecal matter that is a conversation with him.

So I will summarize: I'm irritated at the company's inability to supply a consumer with a product. Period.
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post Oct 5 2005, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE (mfb)
honesty has nothing to do with it, though it's certainly an admirable quality.

Getting let down by a supplier doesn't exactly equate to being unprofessional either. *shrug*

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I just remembered that I'm tired of remembering Blakkie exists, much less rolling around in the steaming fecal matter that is a conversation with him.


Maybe you should leave? :rotfl: Or stop making dumbass statements? That might work too.
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post Oct 5 2005, 06:51 PM
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Getting let down by a supplier doesn't exactly equate to being unprofessional either. *shrug*

if you're talking one or two late books, sure, i agree. we're talking about a history of late books over the course of several years of production.
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