 The missing years, Year 2066-2069 |
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 Oct 7 2005, 02:25 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 358 Joined: 12-May 05 From: The nearest UV host near you... Member No.: 7,390  |
Will we eventually see events that happened between 2066 and 2069? Or will it make a big hole in our timeline?
Perhaps in novels? |
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Oct 7 2005, 02:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Brisbane, Australia Member No.: 78 |
They have a basic one page version in the history section in SR4. Neonet forms from a merger between Transys Neuronet and Novatech and between them they create the new Wireless Matrix.
Horizon replaces Cross Applied Technologies on the Corporate Council after Lucien Cross dies in a plane crash New Revolution tries to reform the old USA by attemping to stage a coup. They kill the president, but are put down. General Colloton is elected President for her work in cleaning up the mess The UTE nation is absorbed by the Pueblo Corporate Council and Tshimshian is effectively absorbed by the Salish Shidhe And the somewhat dubious earthquake causes Southern California to flood |
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Oct 7 2005, 02:47 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
It wouldn't surprise me that it ends up mostly being a hole, although no doubt there will be references to events that occured during that time. So books will be written as being set in 2070 and later, but things that happened in 2066-2069 will come out as historical tidbits. Not unlike the history section in the BBB.
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Oct 7 2005, 03:59 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 15-September 05 Member No.: 7,750 |
A bit of two-pronged questioning, if I may.
Horizon-I don't believe I found much of any reference to this corp pre-SR4. Perhaps a off-handed reference about new simchips in either SOTA:64, or SF, but I have no books on hand presently. It isn't impossible for them to ascend to the ranks of the AAA, but it seems a bit surprising. Lucien Cross died in the "Second Crash", right? Navigation failed, plane crashed, or something like that? |
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Oct 7 2005, 05:26 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
"Everyone vas on vacation. On your left is Munich's first city hall, erected in 15 ... "
Followed quickly by, "Nothing bad happened. Sie werden sich hinsetzen. Sie werden ruhig sein. Sie werden nicht beleidigen Deutschland." But, yeah: "Not much happened. What? Just because there has barely been a month go by for the last 15 years when some awful shit didn't go down, especially in 2064 doesn't mean that anything had to happen from 2065 to 2070." |
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Oct 7 2005, 05:40 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 |
I'd liken it to Robert Heinlein's view of the 1990's and early 21st century, AKA "The Crazy Years". Between the matrix crash, information overload, and general human stupidity drives us all bat shit crazy for about 3 years or so. Nothing of relevance happened. :rotfl:
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Oct 7 2005, 11:21 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,759 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
As far as I know, Horizon had three sentences in a talk in SOTA:2064, p.141, because the Tairngire government hired them as spin doctors. Eventually, it could be considered that Horizon Software, described in Matrix, was in fact the software division of the Horizon Group. I don't know any other reference, nor did I list any in the corporate index. |
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Oct 7 2005, 01:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 358 Joined: 12-May 05 From: The nearest UV host near you... Member No.: 7,390 |
Yeah, i've seen that... but that doesn't make enough entry to call that a year. |
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Oct 7 2005, 01:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: 6-August 02 From: Kiel, Germany Member No.: 3,071 |
This is what I have collected from various books: (Contains Spoilers)
(sorry for the bad on the fly translation) [ Spoiler ]
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Oct 7 2005, 06:06 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
There is a definite window for Cross to lose its Corporate Seat, as Corporate Court justices are elected at 13 month terms, and they gained their seat in 2060. So midway through 2066 or just into 2067. I'm surprised Monobe or another corp didn't pick that seat up, but then again, it is decided through a vote of the other justices, and the Japanacorps have lost much of their monolithic voting block.
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Oct 7 2005, 06:59 PM
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Decker on the Threshold Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 |
Los Angeles is an island now? Ugh, it's the Calfree sourcebook all over again. I had this odd idea brewing about most of SoCal burning during 2070's fire season (for those not from around there, SoCal has two seasons: a 1-2 month Fire season where everything dries up and burns, and the rest of the year :)) and the actual Calfree country moving in to clean up, taking back its "rightful" borders in the process.
That would have had lots of neat hooks for runners. So much for that idea, I guess. But an earthquake, and an island LA? Feh, sounds too much like a cliched movie plot to me. |
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Oct 7 2005, 07:36 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 22-September 04 From: 9th Circle of Hell Member No.: 6,692 |
I think it's time we got Snake Pliskin on the job. I'm surprised they didn't label the "island" of L.A. a new supermax prison. |
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Oct 7 2005, 08:21 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
Snake is an exemplar Shadowrunner of sorts. I do enjoy the occasional pop-culture reference included in a game, but I do not look forward to reading about ex-Navy dophin hackers or a Detroit cyberzombie cop. |
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Oct 7 2005, 08:50 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
This topic has been quite thoroughly beaten to death already. |
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Oct 8 2005, 01:48 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
This is dumpshock...no topic can ever be beaten enough - even after it's dead... |
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Oct 8 2005, 01:51 AM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
Hmm that reminds me of a joke. A bad joke. I won't inflict on you lovely peeps. |
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Oct 8 2005, 01:54 AM
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Decker on the Threshold Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 |
Well, consider it a (fruitless) campaign to get the devs to stop doing stupid random illogical crap to California. I know it's not going to happen, but I feel I still have to try. |
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Oct 8 2005, 02:01 AM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
but Californians do it to themselves. They Voted Schwarzenegger in didn't they :P EDIT readies full defence for the flames. |
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Oct 8 2005, 02:04 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Ann Arbor, MI Member No.: 7,803 |
But...but...it's California! If you're going to do stupid, illogical things, where BETTER?
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Oct 8 2005, 02:20 AM
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Decker on the Threshold Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 |
Hah! Well you do have a point. Then again we also voted in Reagan, and he didn't turn out *that* bad; we figured what the hell, why not chance another actor-as-governor? :) If only this one figured out to concentrate on the bigger money-saving projects his task force recommended instead of the small ones. Like reformatting the DMV; I gaurontee you noone would have shed a tear at tearing down and rebuilding the DMV to be faster and cheaper. :) But no, he had to go and piss off the unions. I doubt his political career will survive that; the unions around here are too good at playing the holier-than-thou card around here. But enough of *that*. Is there anything else known about the four years between SF and SR4? |
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Oct 8 2005, 02:24 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Dr. Emmett Brown: Then tell me, "Future Boy", who's President in the United States in 1985?
Marty McFly: Ronald Reagan. Dr. Emmett Brown: Ronald Reagan? The actor? Dr. Emmett Brown: Then who's VICE-President? Jerry Lewis? Dr. Emmett Brown: I suppose Jane Wyman is the First Lady! Marty McFly: Whoa! Wait! Doc! Dr. Emmett Brown: And Jack Benny, the Secretary of the Treasury. Marty McFly: Doc, You gotta listen to me. |
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Oct 17 2005, 09:04 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Well, taking some artistic licence (which I usually do in almost any game system I GM unless I am using a pre-written module) I have a war brewing in the Balkans, Terrorist attacks hitting London, Strange things seen on the water and in the air around the Kingdom of Hawai'i (& not paracritters either), strange things (not) seen outside of Cambridge in the UK, and child like young woman who...(well I can't give this one away yet).
It is late 2062 and this is just for starters... BTW, I finally have my long awaited copy of SR4 now & am just starting to go through it |
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Oct 17 2005, 10:33 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
For me, the fallout from the November 3 coup intiates a crackdown in the UCAS that makes Reconstruction look downright pleasant. God help the people who copped deals with the Justice Department. They're getting it good from both sides, assuming they live long enough. Imagine something like the ends of the first two Godfather movies only about 10x bigger.
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Oct 18 2005, 02:58 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
That's the story that the media keeps circulating, but Reagan's "let's throw all the people in mental asylums onto the street" plan was just about the single most destructive thing that has ever happened to Californian society and economics since we legalized slavery for Native Americans. I've never understood the drive to rehabilitate Reagan's governorship. That was the most failed failures that ever failed. If it wasn't for the fact that the conservative anti-media media like him because he's conservative, and the rest of the media like him because as president of the screen actor's guild he personally sent everyone in the media who didn't like him before HUAC for blacklisting... he wouldn't ever get any good press at all. None of his programs ever worked, and his entire cabinet ended up getting indicted for seriuous felonies. -Frank |
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Oct 18 2005, 03:17 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Ann Arbor, MI Member No.: 7,803 |
He had a funny nose. And funny cheeks, it was like they were cut off of someone else and epoxied onto him. |
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