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 Oct 14 2005, 11:41 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,118  |
Realism of the dimensions on the Ares Predator aside, I like this artist's style both in generic low-detail/schematic type pictures (as in the Predator or the Medkit on the DeviantArt site) as well as highly detailed ones. Definitely has some Bradstreet in him. Top-notch.
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Oct 14 2005, 11:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Brisbane, Australia Member No.: 78 |
Do you want a troll sized penis? :) |
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Oct 14 2005, 11:52 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Actually, it says, "Do U Want a Troll-Sized Penis".
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Oct 15 2005, 12:55 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 139 Joined: 14-October 05 Member No.: 7,844 |
Some of the best pictures are the ones that are lacking in detail and are just to the point. I agree that the look of some of those pictures are wonderful. I especially love the vectorized stuff. |
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Oct 15 2005, 01:11 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
With a [SPAM] indicator underneath. LOL Hey Tom, while you are here what are those two aircraft on the bottom left of page 240 suppose to be? They don't really match up with any of the listed drones in the back, or even any of the aircraft that i can tell. I'm pretty sure they are drones, given the human size scale underneath to the right and the lack of cockpit windows. Just curious what you intended them to represent. Were they just kinda cool 'doodles'?
Hehe, yes well DSF is a tough crowd, as can be SR fans. However the very crisp style stuff you do should generally go over well here. I personally do like that take on the Predator. Does the gun "make sense" for sutblety or understated effectiveness? Nope, but i never really saw that as the Predator's target market. Tiny penis compensation and/or bluster factor is what the Predator line is about. Of course opinions vary.... |
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Oct 15 2005, 04:57 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 3-June 05 Member No.: 7,425 |
Sorry for the ++ []++ but it is an old typing habit that I have had a tough time getting rid of, as i worked for nextel's insurance fraud department and i had to personalize my notes in a claim in a straight-up non color text program, which was further used in editing/game design for a few jobs.
Anyway, thanks for the positive comments on the work. It makes doing the stuff worth it (that and i am a Shadowrun fan as well). As for the drones: I wanted to make a generic type of realistic combat drone as I couldn't see how the current stuff (even the stuff on the SR4 cover) could maintain its flight characteristics with weapons, ammo and the ultimate in aerodynamic nightmares, armor. The brief i recieved was alot more generic than the final product so i used a bunch of stuff from the first Rigger Book and the Fields of Fire book as a base and throwing in some of the combat drones that are being worked on for military use today. I wanted to give the combat drones the bulk and size of something that would realistically be able to fire in flight without recoil playing havoc. And the idea of vectored thrust and armor for a hover drone in my mind would be a slimmed down version of a T-bird, since armor would create so much drag, while maintaining a rounded shape to shrug off some radar. Now for recon/spy or lightly armed drones, it can be anything but from what i do know about military equipment is that it is bulky and choked full of redundant systems because they are going to take damage by design. As to not looking like current drones, remember the fun of the Rigger book 2.0 and the fact that you could put a panther cannon and a prop blade in a toaster and make it a drone with a few good exploding die rolls. |
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Oct 15 2005, 11:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 30-July 04 From: Orebro, Sweden Member No.: 6,523 |
Every runner should have a Gun Like Alucard does (wee blakkie.. Hellsing = one of the best there is.. :) ) Failing that, A Predator.. Seriously, only objection I could have to the Predator is that the handle may be half an inch or so to short.. but other than that.. a loovley gun..
(*gets his runner a composite copy of Alucards Gun with Intergral smartlink and gasvent.. *) |
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Oct 15 2005, 12:03 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
Unless of course, they'd prefer to pack something like Seras Victoria's Harkonen cannon. :love: |
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Oct 15 2005, 12:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 30-July 04 From: Orebro, Sweden Member No.: 6,523 |
I hey, alucard just has a handgun.. if you want anythign bigger.. ofc Victorias cannon will do.. :)
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Oct 15 2005, 12:27 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Loughborough, UK Member No.: 1,321 |
As an aside on the Predator, does anyone else think this looks any better as every Samurai's favourite hand-cannon? It certainly gets around the 'sawn-off rifle' look, and if my scaling is accurate makes it about the same size as a Desert Eagle- a Heavy Pistol if ever there was one. :)
-JH. |
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Oct 15 2005, 12:35 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Actually, the Punisher's 1911's were larger than normal due to all the customized recoil compensation his dad had put into 'em. Barrel extension recoil compensation ports (extended rather than drilling into the existing barrel/slide, in order to add weight and alter the balance of the firearms, not just poke holes for the blast to escape). To quote Grandpa Castle, "Now, these babies are nail drivers." |
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Oct 15 2005, 02:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 10-September 05 From: Montevideo, in the elusive shadows of Latin America Member No.: 7,727 |
I really like the design. Big and Nasty is what the Predator has always been supposed to be.
Cheers to ++ [ tfxr ]3.0 ++. It's good to see that the artist has done some homework too. Max |
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Oct 15 2005, 04:33 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 3-June 05 Member No.: 7,425 |
Thanks once again...and if I had my choice of sawn-off rifles in Shadowrun it would be the bladerunner rip-off .233 Pistol from the Fallout CRPG. Now that was a gun.
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Oct 15 2005, 06:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 399 Joined: 27-May 04 Member No.: 6,361 |
Ah Fallout. I wonder when they'll make another game... or a table top version...
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Oct 15 2005, 06:42 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Well, there is Degenesis. ;)
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Oct 15 2005, 07:22 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
Bethesda Softworks has the rights to the Fallout franchise, and from what I hear, it's supposed to be the next game they work on after they get Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion out the door. |
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Oct 15 2005, 07:29 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
the SPECIAL system was written out for pen-and-paper gaming. there's a free PDF somewhere online, but it doesn't pop up on the first page when i google it. someone else will have to track it down.
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Oct 15 2005, 07:58 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
ok, i had to do a bunch of digging for this (10 whole minutes, dagnabbit!).
at first i was only able to find hints, and a french site where the guy was working on a book, but as near as i could tell (my french ain't all that impressive) it wasn't finished... but, after extensive searching (5th page of google, i think), i have discovered limitted amounts of information: 1) the game is called Fallout Warfare. 2) it came free with fallout tactics: brotherhood of steel. 3) it also comes with the Fallout Radioactive set (or whatever it's called... a compendium of all the fallout games). 4) it is supposed to be free here. i am now going to attempt to download it... which is hard, because it isn't at all clearly labelled :( i will let you know if i have better success... [edit] aha! think i've got it... the FOWrules.zip and FOWcounter.zip files are most likely it... i was just blind, is all =P [/edit] [edit2] corrected the typo on the URL... thank you jervinator [/edit2] This post has been edited by Jaid: Oct 16 2005, 12:25 AM |
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Oct 15 2005, 08:19 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
hrmmm... ok, not quite what i was thinking actually... the FOW files are indeed Fallout Warfare, however they are not an RPG per se (they are actually wargame rules basically).
there is supposed to be an actual fallout PNP game at this site, but that site seems to have a slight problem with not existing right now. however, that does mean that the rules are probably out there... somewhere... and the company knows about them, and describes them as 'fine' in the FOW files (not sure what that is supposed to mean, exactly, but whatever) good luck finding it... |
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Oct 15 2005, 09:09 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
Unfortunately www.waybackmachine.org is less than helpful, because it doesn't actually archive the .zip files that contained the rules. If you're curious to see what the old page looked like though, here it is: http://web.archive.org/web/20031207084255/...t/resources.htm |
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Oct 16 2005, 12:21 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 4-September 05 Member No.: 7,682 |
Jaid - You made a slight typographical error. I believe you meant for that first link to go here.
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Oct 16 2005, 12:37 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 16-October 05 Member No.: 7,848 |
it could be that that bit on the end is used to help weigh down the barrel to help with recoil. i can't remember what they're called.
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Oct 16 2005, 01:23 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Oddly enough, they're called "barrel weights". ;) Like in the discontinued USP Match.
The real reason the Predator has such a hugely bulky frame is that someone had the bright idea to tack a lot of crap onto the Beretta 93R used for the original Robocop gun. |
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Oct 16 2005, 01:53 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
"Angelina gets a Photoshop lesson in gun safety!"
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Oct 17 2005, 03:22 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 2-September 05 Member No.: 7,673 |
thats the spirit! I also like your "Have a nice day" comment at the end of the medkit treatment run process on the Medkit image - but I have a small problem with the text - it says gunshot wound to the Bbicep yet it is connected to the Brachioradialis muscle group (the Bicep is in the upper arm not the forearm). Of course if the healing is being done via nanites then I guess it doesn't matter where the medkit is connected although I would have thought it would still be better if it was closer to the wound site. |
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