Cyber Spurs==Unarmed? |
Cyber Spurs==Unarmed? |
Oct 22 2005, 08:03 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
Okay, I think I'm kinda reaching here, but here goes:
Cyber Spurs use the unarmed combat skill now, so would you say it is compatable with the adept power critical strike? I'm iffy on this, because it's not really unarmed, but it does use the unarmed skill and is part of your being since you paid for it with essence. Second Question: Would bonuses from Bone density or Lacing to unarmed dv stack with Spurs? Kinda along the same lines but different ideas I guess. I guess the whole point of this post is that spurs and cyber weapons are grouped as unarmed now, and I see no real reason that they shouldn't get the benefits... |
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Oct 22 2005, 08:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 266 Joined: 16-April 02 From: DC Member No.: 2,605 |
Yeah, I'd definitely say you are reaching and those combinations seam way too munchy. I always thought the added damage of bonelacing or bone density for that matter, was an effect of the hardening of your bones and your fist as an extension. Therefor it would have little to no effect on a cyberspur.
I can see your argument about the critical strike and cyberspurs because you paid essence for it, but I still think it sounds too min-maxing especially since SR4 has the damage for cyberspurs at (str/2)+3P. |
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Oct 22 2005, 08:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 715 Joined: 4-September 05 From: Metaplane GEPLK136 (The one with the lizards. You remember the lizards, don't you?) Member No.: 7,684 |
The way I figure it, if you aren't using the "unarmed damage value" you aren't using unarmed for purposes of critical strike. Things that modify that damage are okay (such as bone density). Though... stacking bone density with critical strike could get very ugly very fast.
Still, you could always just make your spurs weapon focuses. |
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Oct 22 2005, 09:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 16-March 05 From: 51° 16' North 7° 11' East Member No.: 7,168 |
Do they? I'd put them under 'blades'. |
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Oct 22 2005, 10:20 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Spurs do use the Blades skill. Implant Weaponry was split into several skill categories. Things like Shock Hands use Unarmed Combat, while Spurs and Razors fall under the Blades category, and implanted guns and stuff need the Exotic Weapons skill.
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Oct 23 2005, 12:54 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
Wow, I guess I read that unarmed was used on certain implants and just assumed it applied to all, my bad.
Answers the question pretty well though, along with feshy's reply. Thanks... |
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Oct 23 2005, 02:38 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
hmm, shock hands + critical strike. zap...
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Oct 23 2005, 02:52 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
How would that work anyway? If you wore shock gloves and smakced someone, would it add in to unarmed dv, do original dv plus the shick dv separate, or just the shock?
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Oct 24 2005, 03:06 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
AKA "the joybuzzer to the nuts". |
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Oct 24 2005, 06:15 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
quite the graphical image :smokin: |
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Oct 24 2005, 03:02 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
I'm still trying to figure out if it is a good thing or a bad thing. 8) P.S. Retractable Cyberspurs and the lot could be deemed by the GM to be an Exotic Weapon since placement into that catagory is open to GM interpretation and it wouldn't be without precident given that cyber-firearms are Exotic Weapons. I'd be inclined to put most of them into Blades though. |
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Oct 26 2005, 03:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 4-September 05 Member No.: 7,682 |
The Blades skill reads, in part...
The Exotic Melee Weapons skill reads, in part...
I wonder if you COULD install a shock "glove" there.... |
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