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Astelaron
post Nov 10 2005, 12:56 AM
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I just finished reading Black Madonna, a book beloved by all for its fantastic munchkin metaplot. I wanted to put Leonardo into a 4th edition perspective. In fourth edition the maximum logic an elf can have at creation is 7 with improved attribute and the maximum ever is 10.

An intelligence of 10 seems appropriate for Einstein but grossly insufficient for Leonardo. What do you all think?
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post Nov 10 2005, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE (Astelaron)
I just finished reading Black Madonna, a book beloved by all for its fantastic munchkin metaplot. I wanted to put Leonardo into a 4th edition perspective. In fourth edition the maximum logic an elf can have at creation is 7 with improved attribute and the maximum ever is 10.

An intelligence of 10 seems appropriate for Einstein but grossly insufficient for Leonardo. What do you all think?

10 reflects the very epitome of whatever it is that the quality is. So a 10 in Logic means one of the smartest people alive.

It's his skills that help define that even further.
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post Nov 10 2005, 01:11 AM
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post Nov 10 2005, 01:35 AM
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seige, wrong leonardo......bad seige no cookie
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post Nov 10 2005, 01:46 AM
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I prefer that one, actually.
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post Nov 10 2005, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE (Siege)
Edged weapons 6: specialized: Katana 8
Infiltration: 4
Athletics 4
Unarmed combat 6: ninjitsu 8
Ambidexterity 6 (I opted for a skill as I'm not sure how 4th edition handles it)

Knowledge skills:
Obscure philosophy 3
Ninja history 6
Pizza 6

Flaws:
Delusion: Humanoid Mutant turtle -4
Addiction: Pizza -1
Delusion: Mentor "spirit", fuzzy rat named Splinter -1

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post Nov 10 2005, 02:31 AM
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post Nov 10 2005, 05:56 AM
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post Nov 10 2005, 06:45 AM
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QUOTE (Astelaron @ Nov 9 2005, 06:56 PM)
I just finished reading Black Madonna, a book beloved by all for its fantastic munchkin metaplot.  I wanted to put Leonardo into a 4th edition perspective.  In fourth edition the maximum logic an elf can have at creation is 7 with improved attribute and the maximum ever is 10.

That's 10 when augmented with the full rating of Mnemonic Enhancer bioware, only 7 natural. However that limit you are talking about is for a mortal Elf. IEs however are uber (with a distict lack of balls...on the ü folks, on the ü :P ), so the same numbers are quite likely not applicable. Same with Skills.

As to his stats? *shrug* But if you go back to the previous ones given (as guidelines i think?) you can compare them to typical GD stats given at that time to try extrapolate the SR4 stats from the GD stats in the BBB.
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post Nov 10 2005, 07:14 AM
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Why does Leonardo need stats anyway? Or is this supposed to be another "who-hates-the-attribute-and-skillcaps"-thread? :|

EDIT: I'd like my "über" with "ü" please...
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Love the ü.
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post Nov 10 2005, 08:53 PM
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Blood Duster, a famous australian grindrock-band, had been abused the ü and ö in the most horrible way, maing their latest album Blöd Düster, which means "stupid dark" in german. :D
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post Nov 10 2005, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE (Oracle)
Why does Leonardo need stats anyway? Or is this supposed to be another "who-hates-the-attribute-and-skillcaps"-thread? :|

EDIT: I'd like my "über" with "ü" please...

The one benefit with the attributes cap in the new rules. All they gotta do is add in one for looks. So someone who's a perfect 10, really is a perfect 10. lol. :silly:
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post Nov 10 2005, 10:05 PM
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The one benefit with the attributes cap in the new rules. All they gotta do is add in one for looks. So someone who's a perfect 10, really is a perfect 10. lol. :silly:

I thank you, and everyone else here, now and in advance for not elaborating futher on what Looks cyberware/bioware there might be. Fortunately the Crash 2.0 and the related magical nuclear denotations caused a total and complete "loss" by all human civilization of all plans for and memories of Mr. S#%$#%557p.....<irreversable data corruption> :twirl:
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post Nov 11 2005, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE (Grinder @ Nov 10 2005, 02:53 PM)
Blood Duster, a famous australian grindrock-band, had been abused the ü and ö in the most horrible way, maing their latest album Blöd Düster, which means "stupid dark" in german.  :D

So basically the name tells you exactly what you're not buying, and why.
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QUOTE (SL James)
QUOTE (Grinder @ Nov 10 2005, 02:53 PM)
Blood Duster, a famous australian grindrock-band, had been abused the ü and ö in the most horrible way, maing their latest album Blöd Düster, which means "stupid dark" in german.  :D

So basically the name tells you exactly what you're not buying, and why.

... and also why, for the first time in your life, you're buying Russel Crowe's album instead.
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post Nov 15 2005, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (SL James)
QUOTE (Grinder @ Nov 10 2005, 02:53 PM)
Blood Duster, a famous australian grindrock-band, had been abused the ü and ö in the most horrible way, maing their latest album Blöd Düster, which means "stupid dark" in german.  :D

So basically the name tells you exactly what you're not buying, and why.

:D It's a coll album, despite the title.
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post Nov 15 2005, 04:00 PM
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"Coll"? Is that short for "colon"? I just can't seem to keep up to kids and their wacky slang. :(

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:rotfl:

Thanks, i feel so much younger now.
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