 The Vigilia Evangelica, 2070 , whats going on? |
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 Nov 11 2005, 12:10 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623  |
So did the author who wrote the description of the Roman Catholic Church's secret vaults, whats in them and the clandestine order that protects them want to hint at the "Horrors" or is that wishful thinking on my part? More importantly as I would like to work the Vililia Evangelica into my game any one have ideas whats been going on with them sense 2064 and the release of the document written by Praetor Pedro Amato?
One can assume that the good Praetor is very dead by 2070. I would also think that the fact that such secret vaults exsist with information from previous magical cycles would have greatly surprised/upset both Tir's and many a Great Dragon who thought they had cornered the market on such knowledge. Then there is also the question of how corps or national goverment would react as well. Any how just looking for ideas as Shadowrun 4th edition has definitely got nothing in print about such at this time. |
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Nov 11 2005, 07:21 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
I've got a very clear idea of where I want to take the Vigilia, how its taken to the changes in the Sixth World between 2064-70, and the breach of its secrecy.
There are no specific plans for it to feature in any of the books currently scheduled for release though. However, I am hoping to do a Vigilia-related short story for Holostreets' subscription service when its up and running (and my currently swamped schedule clears) and I do have longer term plans for it to be used in an upcoming plot. Considering that the last time I made such plans it took 3 years to realize them and have Winternight play its endgame, I'll try to post some material as soon as I get a break in my schedule. |
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Nov 12 2005, 01:37 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
Thanks Synner. Hope Fanpro lets you get some of it into print sooner than last time.
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Nov 13 2005, 02:54 AM
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Spammer Group: Banned Posts: 48 Joined: 22-October 05 Member No.: 7,879 |
[quote]Any how just looking for ideas as Shadowrun 4th edition has definitely got nothing in print about such at this time.[\quote]
??? Whats "Vililia Evangelica"? |
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Nov 13 2005, 03:33 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
The Vigilia Evangelica, a secret order of the Catholic church, who have gathered and hoarded the books of blasphemies, necromancies, and magic. The curators of the Vatican's "Black Library," which contains tomes only the Pope himself may read. This trove gave the church foreknowledge of the Sixth World, and its collection is broken into four massive, hidden storehouses across the length and breadth of the globe.
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Nov 13 2005, 04:13 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 24-October 04 Member No.: 6,784 |
AH, is this in Threats 2 or somewhere else as well?
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Nov 13 2005, 04:18 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
The stories about the Vatican's Black Library have made the rounds for centuries...some of them are even true. As far as SR is concerned, you should check out Threats 2 and Shadows of Europe.
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Nov 13 2005, 04:59 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
... and Loose Alliances, which actually details the Vigilia.
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Nov 13 2005, 05:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 24-October 04 Member No.: 6,784 |
Thanks!
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Nov 13 2005, 01:48 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Oops. :|
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Nov 13 2005, 11:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
"Brotherhood of the Rose" with Sean Connery takes place in one of the black libraries during the "Dark Ages". I believe they even reference the movie in "Loose Alliance". In any case would seem to lend itself to some pretty good horror runs.
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Nov 13 2005, 11:34 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
The book, Stromdrake. It references the book. The movie, as much as I like any movie with Sean Connery, was a pale fascimile on serious meds by comparison.
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Nov 14 2005, 12:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 18-August 03 From: North VA Member No.: 5,519 |
Ooo, which ones are true? (Does Ancient History know everything?) ;) |
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Nov 14 2005, 01:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
AH,
I stand corrected they do reference the novel, not the movie. I have never read the book so the movie is what popped to mind. Probably should go dig up a copy for flavor. |
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Nov 14 2005, 01:32 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
very rarely do the movie give the book full justice. the lotr movies are close, most will say perfect. it comes down the the media mostly. a situation you can use page after page setting up and describing have to be taken care of fast in a movie or it will be to long to watch...
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Nov 14 2005, 03:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 3-November 05 From: KCMO Member No.: 7,922 |
:wobble: Those that call them perfect need to talk to my husband & his father. (Weeks after every release, hashing & re-hashing what they got wrong-elves at Helm's Deep? The horror!) I would have to agree - always use the book if you have a choice. ON the other hand, if you're just looking to set a mood, a movie playing in the background is kinda nice. I've always been curious about these Vatican libraries. Are there references anywhere else (not necessarily SR)? |
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Nov 14 2005, 04:37 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
The Vatican Library is of course a real thing, here's a brief history of it.
The vatican has the second largest collection of pornography on Earth, which is pretty cool. -Frank |
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Nov 14 2005, 04:56 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
meh. i can deal with elves. it didn't happen at all in the books, but it's no biggie. and of course the rest of the rangers never came in the movie... that was kinda odd too. but what really ticked me off is what they did to Faramir. |
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Nov 15 2005, 12:15 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Who has the largest? |
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Nov 15 2005, 12:19 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
The Library of Congress. The Vatican has a copy of every item specifically banned. The Library of Congress has a copy of every work with a registered (rather than implied) copyright. The Vatican has been around for a long time. By some reckonings it is the longest running human organization that is still extant. And that means that at some point or another they've gotten around to banning just about anything. But the LoC of the United States has more pr0n. -Frank |
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Nov 15 2005, 12:21 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i will not write a run in which someone steals the Vatican's pr0n collection. i will resist the temptation. i will... ah, hell, it's not like i have the time to write it anyway.
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Nov 15 2005, 12:28 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Frag the Elves. They left out Tom Bombadil. That is unforgivable. |
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Nov 15 2005, 10:21 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
:D I'll start a new SR4 campaing soon and now i have the perfect first run for them. Wonder if there's a chance to include Drop Bears? :D |
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Nov 15 2005, 12:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Ann Arbor, MI Member No.: 7,803 |
They guard the pr0n. |
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Nov 15 2005, 12:49 PM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
hell yeah. I'll never forgive Tolkein for writing that drivel... oops not what you meant. :D |
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